Rolling CHALLENGING OPINIONS thread 2008

"emo is a synonym for crap" isn't really a "challenging" opinion though, is it? Like, if you went on that assumption, would you be missing out on awesome music? I doubt it.

Someone should start a rolling "ILXors whom Dom has beef with/grudge against" thread for lulz.

Hmmmm - I don't care about Dr. C calling emo crap but he's very very RONG with the implication that Sebadoh and Superchunk were either emo or crap.

Agreed

i thought "challenging opinions" was not actually a place for challenging opinions to be listed, but a place for things to be listed that the poster themself falsely believes to be a challenging opinion

Exackly.

i thought "challenging opinions" was not actually a place for challenging opinions to be listed, but a place for things to be listed that the poster themself falsely believes to be a challenging opinion

-- roxymuzak, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 15:01 (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

^correct

pish i was stating FACTS

not u sunny

:-( sorry.

those political threads are chock full of challenging opinions from ilxors

see "ban burt stanton" on mod req

Since when has journalism ever been about being talented? Anyone with a university education has the skills to turn out decent copy.

-- Zelda Zonk, Friday, 15 February 2008 12:29 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Link

He's so pretentious. It's amazing how, even though I don't really care to keep up with his career, every time I see him he manages to do something incredibly arrogant and self-indulgent that shocks me. That Grammy speech where he acts incredibly rude and conceited (the recent 2008 version) is another example of this. Telling the band to stop playing the music because he wants to go over the allotted time restriction and talk about his mother is a another example. If he hadn't started out his speech talking about how he "owned" the Grammy's and made the awards show his new home he'd have enough time to talk about how his mom is proud of him in heaven when she watches rap videos of her son, but he didn't think it through. Kanye West is like Flava Flav with a college degree.

-- Cunga, Saturday, February 16, 2008 2:28 AM

Kanye West is like Flava Flav with a college degree.
Kanye West is like Flava Flav with a college degree.
Kanye West is like Flava Flav with a college degree.
Kanye West is like Flava Flav with a college degree.
Kanye West is like Flava Flav with a college degree.
Kanye West is like Flava Flav with a college degree.
Kanye West is like Flava Flav with a college degree.
Kanye West is like Flava Flav with a college degree.

flava flav is like kanye west with a big fucking clock

lol, that uppity negro!

It's mostly personal opinion for a lot of these.

-- our work is never over, Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:07 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Link

...

there no fucking wrong personal opinion.

-- our work is never over, Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:23 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Link

I think there is an environmental cause eg a toxin that causes depressive thoughts. Plenty of places have deprivation and associated social problems and unemployment. Nearly everyone can access the internet. So they should be looking for a environmental cause specific to this area. Why is nobody doing this?

-- Grandpont Genie, Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:37 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Link

not so much "challenging" as "this guy is pretty twee for a heavy crack user."

Environmental cause = living in fucking Bridgend

there no fucking wrong personal opinion.

-- our work is never over, Thursday, February 14, 2008 11:23 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Link

RONG

"there's no wrong opinion" = something idiots say to justify saying something idiotic

could the US navy use one of its satellite-killing missiles to take out the primaries thread? just a thought.

People are hating this movie for the rong reasons. They're getting worked up about the "issue" of abortion, when the movie isn't a morality tale or an after-school special. It's a comedy about a singular person in an individual situation. Then they're mad because of all the "indie signifiers", because they are still under the delusion that they somehow possess the magic key to jaded enlightenment and non-mainstream culture, as if these music / artists / or ideals will never cross over. Like, "Hey, other assholes are listening to MY MUSIC, and to add insult to injury, they're thriftshopping too!" Get over it. I don't hear clear arguements against the script, performances, production, etc.

And so, I ask again, what exactly is the bar for Teen Dramedy if not Juno?

-- Bobbi Peru, Friday, February 22, 2008 3:25 PM (38 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

could the US navy use one of its satellite-killing missiles to take out the primaries thread? just a thought.

-- That one guy that hit it and quit it, Thursday, 21 February 2008 17:22 (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

daria-g morelike daria-godsake, stop posting, amirite?

daria-g morelike daria-godsake, stop posting, amirite?

-- Dom Passantino, Friday, February 22, 2008 10:22 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

In its mass-market designs, it represents the oversaturation of a particular "indie" aesthetic that had started to grow stale by the end of the 1990s but somehow took on a new place by being subsumed into the mainstream in the early-to-mid 2000s with Seth Cohen wearing ringer tees on The O.C. and Modest Mouse in car commercials and such.

-- jaymc

fair trade thread is getting pretty fuckin' intensely challenging.

It's a little snotty to make "duh" comments that imply that an understanding of the Bretton Woods system is part of the obvious baseline of any casual discussion of trade among non-econ people.

Duh.

re: this:

Bretton Woods was a cashcow for the west really

-- laxalt, Tuesday, February 26, 2008 5:01 PM (32 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

maybe we need a "breaking news" thread for "western states will use every weapon in their armoury to their advantage whatever the consequences"-type challenging opinions.

-- That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, February 26, 2008 12:06 PM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Link

no that's what i meant, hurting! dude was making like "Bretton Woods was a cashcow" was this kind of QED statement.

i have no idea what the fuck that even means -- like prior to BW the western powers had no sway in (what became the) third world, or that after BW broke down it hasn't.

my line applied to pretty much everything posted on that thread, but the bretton woods bit annoyed me because it was just so CHALLENGING.

it hasn't --> they haven't.

ah ok, I see what you're saying. So maybe I also misunderstand this thread, b/c I'm thinking "challenging opinions" means arrogant assertions of things that are obvious, but maybe it's more just arrogant assertions period.

This list is rad so far.

-- call all destroyer, Wednesday, March 5, 2008 11:07 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

this list sucks!

-- Bee OK, Thursday, March 6, 2008 1:45 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

i don't want to be like some, no offense, white folks who think they know what's up with other cultures when they don't.

-- tremendoid, Sunday, March 9, 2008 8:25 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

white folks be thinkin'

The actors weren't exactly playing very differently from the original. I get half way through a JD song and I'm already bored. They really do sound like a band having a jam together.

-- the next grozart, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 17:47 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

Limbaugh is so deluded.

-- suzy, Tuesday, March 11, 2008 9:57 PM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

I'm not afraid to state loud and clear: this skit was not, is not, nor will ever be funny. Theres nothing funny about it, nor is there about Christopher Walken, Saturday Night Live, Will Ferrel, jokes referencing this skit, nor is there anything that resembles humour in the premises, foundation, and details (on a grand and microscopic scale) within, or around this skit.

The fact it is so loved is truly symptomatic of one of the tragedy of our time.

-- mehlt, Sunday, March 16, 2008 4:39 AM

OMG cowbell hater. my mind just BROKE.

This is the kind of form that could score our boy a shock victory here

The Importance of Being Earnest - ILM Chapter 1

less cowbell!

The fact it is so loved is truly symptomatic of one of the tragedy of our time.
The fact it is so loved is truly symptomatic of one of the tragedy of our time.
The fact it is so loved is truly symptomatic of one of the tragedy of our time.
The fact it is so loved is truly symptomatic of one of the tragedy of our time.
The fact it is so loved is truly symptomatic of one of the tragedy of our time.

Up there with the massacres in Darfur, certainly.

tupac ruined hip hop. there, i said it.

-- oops (Oops), Wednesday, September 15, 2004 8:01 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

there, i said it.

^^my least favorite phrase of all time

there is no more surefire of a way to spot a CHALLENGING OPINION then if it's followed by "there, i said it"

"Lock thread" also a classic BRING THE CHALLENGE gambit.

"im not saying. im just saying"

Tupac ruined hip-hop! (room goes silent)

dirk hardpeck

gristle mcthornbody

Film parts: this comedy show isn’t haha funny but it’s quite nice, don’t get the obsession but I’m chuckling

Skits: alright this is some of the worst shit I’ve ever seen

I've seen many (and even love some) of the featured films but I still have yet to watch a MST3K. I dunno, if a movie is quip-inducing I guess I just prefer to generate the quips myself alongside whoever I'm watching it with.