Roger Clemens - Classic Or Dud?

2004 - (92-70) Attendance 3087872 --Their highest attendance ever and a big playoff appearance with their first playoff series win in franchise history.

2003 - (87-75) Attendance 2454241 --They finished a game out of first and yet their attendance was a half million tickets down.

The Astros got a great year out of Clemens last year for below what it should have cost for a pitcher of his stature. Take the money that he made last year and add it to what he is making this next season and it most likely evens out. Criminy if I could get a 13 million dollar raise at work, I sure would put in for one.

Kinda hard to argue now that he's not the best pitcher of the last 60 years.

-- gygax!

if only gygax! was still around to see how right he was in the end. ; (

Dude, as a Cubs fan you should remember that you have Wood/Prior/Zambrano/Clement... I'd take those 4

5.09 ERA
1.42 WHIP

But he took one for the team yesterday! On the road! That's veteran leadership! I'd love to see Captain Pistfump try that shit!

Also: lol @ his numbers before actually seeing an AL team.

5.32 ERA

no k vs. the orioles potent AND patient lineup.

yeah, the lineup w/ mel mora, jay gibbons and corey patterson.

HA!

HE MINIMIZED DAMAGE AND KEPT US IN THE GAME AND THAT IS ALL WE ASK OF HIM

HAHA

Andy, I didn't know you were stumping for Torre's job!

I still think Yanks will win 85-88 in spite of Rog.

They were on pace for that w/out Rajah, after their spurtable spurt against the lowest of the low in the AL & NL (and, um, Boston) (&, yeah, Clemens "helped" during that stretch, but minimally) - problem is, 88 wins will leave them at least 5 GB of the wildcard, & 10+ in back of the Red Sox.

(go O's!)

yes, this is the year Fistpump gets to be Fox playoff analyst.

They're gonna need to separate Jeter & McCarver w/ some Popemobile-strength bullet-proof plastic.

why would they need to do that? to stop mccarver from planting giant sloppy kisses on jeter?

Who in tarnation is captain pistfump?

http://www.sonsofsamhorn.net/wiki/images/thumb/f/f1/Jeter.jpg/250px-Jeter.jpg

http://news.com.com/i/ne/p/2005/1312005jeter350x306.jpg
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why would they need to do that? to stop mccarver from planting giant sloppy kisses on jeter?

well duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

giant, sloppy kisses if we're lucky!

wait, but what about his rodness, the rod?

As an analyst?

the rod doesn't analyze...i mean things besides his own awesomeness?

you just hate him because he's biracial

Not to mention good-looking.

Slappy & Pumpy broke up

roger and andy are still going strong

"I'll probably look at the history at another time. I hope this is something that my body is telling me I'm getting stronger." -- Clemens, who will turn 45 next month, on winning No. 350

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YOU SHOULD GET BACK IN THE GAME ROGER CLEMENS

THE END IS NEAR.

Someone get him his poultice.

Actual BBTN quotes:

"You know what? He continues to get better with age."

"Keep in mind that the New York Yankees have to score runs for Roger in order for him to be effective for them."

(Uhh WOW plus you guys were just talking for several minutes about the miraculous sustained effectiveness of someone old enough to play in an old-timer game. The New York Yankees scored one run.)

THE STORY IS NOT THE ANGELS WINNING.

Not much run support -- or ESPN postgame analysis, it seems -- in a loss to TB.

so we hate them for talking too much?

and then not talking enough?

just trying to get it straight.

ha ha stence save that biting rhetorical analysis for debate club kthx

There is a stark difference in Clemens coverage/analysis when he does truly well (or merely satisfactory) and when he doesn't do so well. It's funny.

When he does well: Meticulous analysis marveling at a pitcher who continues to get better with age. How does he do it? Let's all discuss it for a few minutes. Look at Clemens hit his spots. Look at Clemens adjust to losing some of his velocity. Look at Clemens gut it out after getting into a jam which might've had to do with the phase of the moon or some kind of temporary talent surge on the part of a couple hitters. Look at Clemens bend down to pick up a tapper thrown miraculously in on the handle of the bat.

When he doesn't do well: Here's how the Yankees scored their runs. Ohandhereshowtheotherteamscoredclemensthrewfiverunsgivingupsevenhitsblahblahkthnxbye.

Roger Clemens carried on a decade-long affair with country star Mindy McCready, a romance that began when McCready was a 15-year-old aspiring singer performing in a karaoke bar and Clemens was a 28-year-old Red Sox ace and married father of two, several sources have told the Daily News.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2008/04/27/2008-04-27_sources_roger_clemens_had_10year_fling_w.html

:/ :/ :/

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"Tom Tango tweet"--will one day rival "toy boat" as a tongue twister.

Clemons will always have the headwind of being a total asshole.

*Clemens. Fuck.

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