Has there been a thread about John Martyn?

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NickB, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link

let's balance out all these fat old John pics with an skinny young one.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Z6nbGySgL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

tylerw, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link

John's just received his second lifetime achievement award of this year (from Mojo - he got one from BBC Radio 2 in Feb). This does not bode well I fear.

NickB, Wednesday, 25 June 2008 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

A friend recently lent me the 'Live At Leeds (And More)' album and I finally got round to listening to it last night.

The Live In Leeds set itself, recorded October 1975, and self-released as a LP at the time, is absolutely amazing. Really powerful, rocking, freely extended versions of the tracks. Solid Air on there is wonderful.

The CD set has a second disc of other live stuff from over the years and is pretty patchy to my ears. Too much later stuff that was far too saccharine and sentimental, m.o.r. pish, BUT it ends with an incredible version of a track 'Anna', performed in 1983 at the Bottom Line club in NY.

Anyone know this one? A bit of reading about says that "Anna" was from a movie soundtrack and was an evolution of the track "Small Hours" from 'One World'.

I've only ever heard 'Solid Air' before, which I've fallen in love with over the course of this year. Nothing else I've sampled has clicked yet, but I'm going to explore a few others now.

krakow, Thursday, 3 December 2009 10:58 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.johnmartyn.info/?q=node/92

This story needs reposting, especially for the "no matter how drunk JMartyn was, he still could work out what was going on" air.

Mark G, Thursday, 3 December 2009 11:35 (fourteen years ago) link

xp , If you like Solid Air then Bless The Weather is probably the next thing to try.

caek, Thursday, 3 December 2009 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Mark G, that's incredible! Thank you for the link.

krakow, Thursday, 3 December 2009 11:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Thanks passed on to caek (link was above)

Mark G, Thursday, 3 December 2009 11:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Ah, I see it now. Thanks caek.

krakow, Thursday, 3 December 2009 11:48 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

in the end, kind of a depressing thread...

WharfRat, Wednesday, 24 March 2010 01:22 (fourteen years ago) link

five months pass...

the drum machines added to "dancing" on one other world make it sound like it just came out today. pretty amazing

kamerad, Thursday, 9 September 2010 16:10 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

One World is the missing link between Spirit of Eden, World Of Echo, and Heart Of The Congoes. I can't believe I am only hearing this record now.

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 23 September 2011 18:14 (twelve years ago) link

aye, its a great record. allmusic gave it 3 stars!!

Michael B, Friday, 23 September 2011 18:49 (twelve years ago) link

3 out of 3 right?

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 23 September 2011 18:57 (twelve years ago) link

Those mid-period Martyn Records are really great--that echoplex!

one dis leads to another (ian), Friday, 23 September 2011 19:00 (twelve years ago) link

One World is the missing link between Spirit of Eden, World Of Echo, and Heart Of The Congoes. I can't believe I am only hearing this record now.

That's some playlist you're pointing to there.

They all have to be on Spotify right?

my opinionation (Hamildan), Saturday, 24 September 2011 13:46 (twelve years ago) link

the drum machines added to "dancing" on /one other world/ make it sound like it just came out today. pretty amazing

"Dancing" is like the greatest Grateful Dead song ever. it feels like it could go on forever.

I prefer One World by a pretty big margin to Solid Air -- the watery dubbiness of "Big Muff" and "Smiling Strangers," the grit of "Dealer," his gruff vocals, Steve Winwood's taut Minimoog solos...there's a lot to love about this album.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 24 September 2011 14:59 (twelve years ago) link

"Small Hours" is transcendent, shimmering peace.

Euler, Saturday, 24 September 2011 15:21 (twelve years ago) link

"I prefer One World by a pretty big margin to Solid Air"

Bless The Weather is better than both imo

nostormo, Saturday, 24 September 2011 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

Ranking them is tough. But for now I'd go (1) One World, (2) Grace & Danger, (3) Solid Air and (4) Bless The Weather. Love the man!

QuantumNoise, Saturday, 24 September 2011 15:57 (twelve years ago) link

Been pretty obsessed with Martyn this year. I don't think the drum machine on One World sounds contemporary though, but that's what i love about it. It's got that primitive feel, like on There's A Riot Goin' On

Number None, Saturday, 24 September 2011 16:16 (twelve years ago) link

Also, pretty sure drum machine isn't on Dancing -- it is on Dealer tho.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 24 September 2011 20:35 (twelve years ago) link

The drum machine is added to "Dancing" on the outtake/bootleg (yet avail. on iTunes) set Another World.

I'm a sucker for his, er, dance-y late-'70s/early-'80s songs, like that track and "Running Up The Harbour" from the Grace And Danger deluxe set.

Hold me closer, tiny blushda (Craig D.), Saturday, 24 September 2011 21:13 (twelve years ago) link

I think it's on the deluxe remaster too

Number None, Saturday, 24 September 2011 21:16 (twelve years ago) link

"Didn't Do That" on Glorious Fool is a great twitchy number. But we are a long way from One World.

Euler, Saturday, 24 September 2011 21:20 (twelve years ago) link

The drum machine is added to "Dancing" on the outtake/bootleg (yet avail. on iTunes) set Another World.

I stand corrected. That stuff sounds great. May need to pick it up.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 25 September 2011 00:06 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTje94as2w4

tylerw, Thursday, 29 September 2011 22:33 (twelve years ago) link

Jesus Christ

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 30 September 2011 04:46 (twelve years ago) link

seven months pass...

Bless Spotify

Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Monday, 7 May 2012 01:39 (eleven years ago) link

John Martyn, I did not know you until now.

Scott, bass player for Tenth Avenue North (Hurting 2), Monday, 7 May 2012 01:40 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3QKwMzJZSI

^^^ fave john martyn song of the moment. so great.

one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 7 May 2012 01:52 (eleven years ago) link

when i got to talking to michael chapman last year he mentioned in passing that john martyn was the only person he'd ever kicked out of his house.
i would like to hear the rest of that story someday.

one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 7 May 2012 01:55 (eleven years ago) link

I'd be interested to hear Nick McCabe on John Martyn's new record too; pretty like minded people I figure.

― Keith Watson (kmw), Monday, May 10, 2004 10:05 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I always heard echoes of Richard Thompson in the guitar on the early Verve records. But I guess it was Nick drake not John Martyn that had his accompaniment, RT's that is.

Stevolende, Monday, 7 May 2012 12:00 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, verlaine's gtr sound = 50% jerry garcia, 50% richard thompson - the version of 'Sloth' on the Fairport Convention live at the LA Troubadour set is especially Television-like, tho' Sailor's LIFE always sounds to me more like FT trying to be the Velvet Underground

― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, June 25, 2008 1:12 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I was really reminded of Verlaine at least by the guitar you can now hear under bits of North Star Grassman & The ravens the Sandy Denny lp.

Stevolende, Monday, 7 May 2012 12:04 (eleven years ago) link

three months pass...

the guitar on dancing is just so ~sparkly~.

tubular, mondo, gnabry (Merdeyeux), Saturday, 1 September 2012 02:23 (eleven years ago) link

durutti-esque even

blank, Saturday, 1 September 2012 02:37 (eleven years ago) link

god that ogwt 'one world' upthread is gorgeous

bear, bear, bear, Saturday, 1 September 2012 10:13 (eleven years ago) link

durutti-esque even

Jerry-esque is more like it.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 2 September 2012 04:52 (eleven years ago) link

when i got to talking to michael chapman last year he mentioned in passing that john martyn was the only person he'd ever kicked out of his house.
i would like to hear the rest of that story someday.

― one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, May 7, 2012 1:55 AM (3 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 3 September 2012 05:32 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

never heard this guy before! he's amazing...

listening to Inside Out

not sure what kinda music this is...only thing that kinda pings are the weirder Tim Buckley albums...

captain angeroo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 6 November 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

get One World, Solid Air, and Bless the Weather right now!

Number None, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, those and live at leeds. the ones with his wife are solid too, though more on the straight-up folk tip.

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

Stormbringer

ryan, Tuesday, 6 November 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00FNSAHUM/ref=dm_ty_trk

Amazon selling the 17 disc as mp3download, £7.49 (at time of this message)

Mark G, Monday, 7 October 2013 09:38 (ten years ago) link

yow, good deal, gotta be a mistake, right? doesn't seem to be available in the usa :(
listened to sunday's child last week -- great record, if a bit all over the place. found myself wondering: "who the hell does this guy think he is?!"

tylerw, Monday, 7 October 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link

The only thing about this is that there's no 'ebook' or suchlike, and all the MP3s seem to have the same Album Title for the idb tags.

Still, that's sort-outable..

Mark G, Monday, 7 October 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link

Weirdly, 'Couldn't Love You More' has been popping up on various m8s fb/twitter feeds, incredible song...just took a punt on the Glorious Fool LP (£3 from a fruit/veg/record shop in New Cross)...might take a bit of getting into this...

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Monday, 7 October 2013 17:47 (ten years ago) link

yow, good deal, gotta be a mistake, right? doesn't seem to be available in the usa :(
listened to sunday's child last week -- great record, if a bit all over the place. found myself wondering: "who the hell does this guy think he is?!"

― tylerw, Monday, October 7, 2013 4:00 PM (2 days ago)

Both links now dead so must have been a mistake.

I bought the Amazon one as it automatically added to my Cloud Player on Monday and told some friends about it but both Google Play and Amazon are no longer selling the MP3s.

groovypanda, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 06:52 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVjEERe1UqU

^ crazy scenes on Hastings beach with Big John

gotta lol geir (NickB), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, I've been wondering why that version isn't on the expanded One World!

Pataphysician, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:00 (one year ago) link

xp Good lord that live "One World" is amazing. He used a similar doom fuzz effect on "Root Love" from Sunday's Child (imo his most underrated album, would be my favorite if not for One World)

J. Sam, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 18:19 (one year ago) link

I feel like I may have posted that “One World” performance two or three times on this thread already. Not that I’m complaining.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 23:14 (one year ago) link

I saw him just before he died doing a "Solid Air in full" thing at the Roundhouse in London. He was carried on stage and launched apathetically into about 45 minutes of corporate blues-rock w/rock-gargling vocals. I recognised one song - Dealer - but the rest was 80s/90s stuff I think. Occasional gruff barking. He then said "Well I suppose we'd better get on with the business of the evening" and delivered the aforementioned sweetest, most delicate “Over the Hill” vocal you can imagine. Entire crowd singing along. Then the rest of the album (out of order, so as not to keep changing guitars) brilliantly, then another half hour of blues/rock crud. A memorable event.

That sounds like a fuck ton of music for a dude who was on deaths door.

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 23:56 (one year ago) link


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