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yeah see im not hearing that old shit as much, confield is the future!

simon trife (simon_tr), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 19:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

search: 'chagrin', doing the boc thang first and bettah

i haven't heard much m.o.m, i tried to get into idiology at the cd store listening post but it wasn't happenin'

Mitch Lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 19:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

That's what I always hear about Amber, but that never struck me as a melodic record. More of a drifting kind of thing.

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 19:35 (twenty-one years ago) link

oh and there's this track on vulvand that when i played it in my car one of the noises sounded (on my tinny no-bass car speakers) like a piece of car falling off and scraping along the highway, that was unnerving, i had to change it.

Mitch Lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 19:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

ha why do avant-gardists think that drifty = melodic?

Mitch Lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 19:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

that track with the fake strings is mad melodic, yo.

< /trife >

hstencil, Tuesday, 24 September 2002 19:42 (twenty-one years ago) link

< /wigga > !!!

simon trife (simon_tr), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 19:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

damn MoM put me on my nerves. It makes me feel the same as jazz: I feel there is quite a lot of genius into their records, their interviews and fans seem to back that up, but I don't get it at all and feel very dumb about it.
I actually have 2 MoM albums, Vulvaland and Audioditacker, bought them because of hype in my snob-avantgardist teen years. I like vulvaland, soothing, not too taxing, but everytime I finish listening to audioditacker trying to get into it I feel so anxious I have to put one of my favourites records verily loud just to remember what really loving a record feels like. One part of myself says "pretentious synth wankers stop listening or it'll hurt your head", the other says "I'm missing something I'M MISSING SOMETHING HERE"
Man, I've even tried listening to it in all my mushroom trips to see if I can gain an attachment to it, but I always quickly ignore it.

mario 3 (mario), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 21:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

my use of the word 'pretentious' above was not a direct criticism on Autechre, who I've heard absolutely nothing of, but a criticism of the 'if it's melodic isn't not real maaaan' nonsense.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 24 September 2002 23:47 (twenty-one years ago) link

"There is too much sterile-sounding, stilted electronic music out there of the Autechre variety. If you're going to make drum-oriented music, please, have a sense of rhythm."

hahahahahahaha. Personally, I haven't heard any electronic music that's come as close to being as rhythmically advanced/interesting/bad-ass as Autechre (see: the second track on Peel Sessions 2, much of Confield & Chiastic Slide, Gantz Graf).

I also think they have some very nice melodies, though often not at the same time as the hardcore rhythmic stuff.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 25 September 2002 14:37 (twenty-one years ago) link

one year passes...
Who wants to describe the new album to someone with no slsk, a broken soundcard and no promo love?

Sonny A. (Keiko), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:39 (nineteen years ago) link

It's poppier. Vocals on every track. MoM meets Daft Punk meets Prince.

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:52 (nineteen years ago) link

And am I to assume that this is the best thing ever?

Sonny A. (Keiko), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link

wow! that sounds awesome! are we talking about dirty mind prince or what?

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:56 (nineteen years ago) link

You're not tricking me again, god dammit

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I like

peepee (peepee), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:01 (nineteen years ago) link

slsk this bastard!!

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:02 (nineteen years ago) link

It's technopunkpop.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:04 (nineteen years ago) link

wheres the punk come from?

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Is there anything ambient/orchestral on it? I would miss that if it were gone

Sonny A. (Keiko), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:10 (nineteen years ago) link

The punk comes from the bits that rock, messily. And the vocals. No ambient, orchestral bits. Use old records for that.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:31 (nineteen years ago) link

MoM's newest is maybe their best, i think... having only had a month+ with it, it's too hard to say yet... they're one of my favorites though, and hands down the best live act i have EVER seen... i have never seen such a sweaty crowd (LA, el rey, idiology tour). Autoditacker is actually what got me into electronic music along with aphex stuff, like most people... but while i don't listen to aphex much anymore, i still put MoM in all the time. i definitely prefer their poppier stuff (auto-, niun, idiology, and now, radical connector), but sound design-wise they're fantastic no matter what they're doing. plus the lyrics are brilliant... it makes contempo philosophizing fun.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:39 (nineteen years ago) link

most rock people, i should clarify... aphex big bridge for rock people my age (23)...

firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:40 (nineteen years ago) link

do the synths still sound like they have a bad cold? this really makes or breaks the deal for me.

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:44 (nineteen years ago) link

absolutely... possibly tuberculosis... but other times they take big deep zen breaths, hold them in for half a song and then cough them out

firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 20:49 (nineteen years ago) link

not to hate, but just want to mention this as someone who's been buying every release on sight for the last ten years... this is the first record of theirs I can't listen to, and I've tried several times over the last few months. I am happy they're obviously about to connect to a whole new audience, but I have to hop off the bus for this album.

(Jon L), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 21:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I've yet to see anything less than rave reviews in print & online though, right up to 'album of the year', many from people I generally respect, so don't let me stop you.

(Jon L), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 21:40 (nineteen years ago) link

there is something to be said for the stylistic consistency of mouse on mars (and the live-dodo-bird rarity of that style, given) that they inspire that kind of collector-scum wallet brutality, almost to the level of AFX and Stereolab but without all the japan-only/limited edition shit going on.

To be honest it's also what's driven me away, I'm with the above poster on buying practically everything over the last decade or so, but in my case I'm ready for a change. All I ask is one handraiser, one well-arranged piece of mayhem that can hold my attention for more than half a minute or so, and since we're talking about an album, no more of the filler that made idiology such a disappointment by the third or fourth listen.

Who are the vocalists?

TOMBOT, Tuesday, 27 July 2004 22:35 (nineteen years ago) link

a woman named niobe... and then dodo and maybe even the boys
themselves? has it even dropped yet? don't think so. i've yet
to see proper credits. hard to imagine getting sick of this
album so long as i don't overdoit in the beginning.

firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 22:42 (nineteen years ago) link

It's Niobe that's the dealbreaker for me.

I loved the first two tracks on 'Idiology'... it came out so quickly after 'Niun', and so many of the tracks were so crazy / sloppy that I just took that album as a fun transitional blowing-off-of-steam from (which they obviously slaved over) and I didn't hold it against them.

This new one though, it's a statement...

(Jon L), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 22:44 (nineteen years ago) link

meant to type:

blowing-off-of-stream from the previous record (which they obviously slaved over)

(Jon L), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I love this record. Took me a while to get into them, only after I got a free copy of Idiology, which is now one of my favourite records ever. I saw them with stereolab *many* years ago but didn't get it. I will be sorely dissapointed if they don't tour this properly.

hmmm (hmmm), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 07:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Dusted: Mouse on Mars interview
http://www.dustedmagazine.com/features/276

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 13:19 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
bump.

Got the new one today. reactions from those who have it already? "Instrumentals" bores me a bit tbh, but "Rost Pocks" & "Idiology" are fab. One of those acts where I'm actually wary of hearing more of their records in case they don't match up to the same standard.

Mmmm "Send Me Shivers" is doing it for me at the moment :)

Subtly processed female vocals = big weakness of mine, I don't really enjoy Sophie Rimheden though, but adore Ellen Allien. Should I really be buying disco records?

ruffle bar (grumpy_bastard), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 08:32 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
fuck.

MoM are as bad as Autechre for zero-critical-agreement on what is their best work. I'll probably try 'Glam' next I think.

This one is such a dissapointment. I think I'm going to sell it.

i contribute something on ilm?? (i lurk on ilm), Friday, 15 October 2004 01:18 (nineteen years ago) link

six months pass...
This - http://www.quio.poemproducer.com/ (mp3's thru link) is what 'Radical Connector' should have sounded like! :-O

Search

Rost Pocks
Idiology
Instrumentals
Vulvaland
Niun Niggung

find/download - 'Untitled States Of'

Destroy

Radical Connector

(Yet to hear 'Autoditacker'& not too bothered tbh, want to hear 'Glam' eventually. Probably sleeping on Iaora Tahiti unfairly).

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 30 April 2005 00:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Glam is awesome, their best imo.

Amon (eman), Saturday, 30 April 2005 01:20 (eighteen years ago) link

>> is what 'Radical Connector' should have sounded like!


Radical Connector is one of the best records of the last 10 years. Thank fuck it doesn't sound like you think it should.

Brad Laner (Brad Laner), Saturday, 30 April 2005 02:59 (eighteen years ago) link

wow Brad chill tf out.

I love MOM usually, I just happened to find it a predictable and sonically boring record.

I'm intrigued you have such a strong reaction though. Care to defend it some more? I'd be interested to read another perspective on it, I didn't find the reviews at the time hugely englightening.

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 30 April 2005 12:46 (eighteen years ago) link

sorry, just hate to see such a fine album dismissed filppantly , and for personal (somewhat obvious if you know my history) reasons, I hate when so called fans turn on a group for a percieved "change of direction".
No idea how you can call RC sonically boring. it's anything but. I know of few other electronic based records that are as elastically funky and incredibly dense. then mix in the
almost Satie-esque orchestral/melodic elements and yes, pop song aspects and there you go. easily my fave MoM, and I've been listening since the beginning.

Brad Laner (Brad Laner), Saturday, 30 April 2005 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link

What, exactly, was predictable about Radical Connector?

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 30 April 2005 17:23 (eighteen years ago) link

It sounds just like the other glitchpop records their contemporaries were making in 2001 when they made their best record!

Sonny, Ah!!1 (Sonny A.), Saturday, 30 April 2005 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Cheers to them for "following their muse" or whatever but it was the worst possible direction they could have gone in

Sonny, Ah!!1 (Sonny A.), Saturday, 30 April 2005 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link

If it seems like I'm 'turning on them' I'm not at all. I'll still be tuned in to their next move & hopefully even get to see them live this year (they're on quite a few festival line ups).

I'm sorry I don't know your history :-/ I can understand your ire if that's what you thought I was saying.

I don't think it was a huge change of direction was it? It just didn't work for me very well YMMV obviously. 'Predictable' only in regards to their previous work. From anyone else, far from it.

I just heard that mp3 and the structures reminded me vaguely of Idiology + playfully odd hip-hop over the top. It sounded 'fun' and inventive (and funky) similar to how I'd expected RC might have been. I hadn't imagined any specific sound or linear 'progression' like that, they don't do much of that do they? :-)

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 30 April 2005 18:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think it was a bad direction to move towards, but I expected them to sound much more comfortable with it than the record did.

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 30 April 2005 19:56 (eighteen years ago) link

so you can divine the comfort level of the artist ?
that's extraordinary ! methinks you may be projecting a tad.
In any case, that's a rather nutty criteria for judging the merits of a record.

and Sonny, I'm pretty certain there are plenty of worse directions they could have gone.
freak folk fer instance ? jeez, so melodramatic.

pity MoM, such asinine 'fans'.

Brad Laner (Brad Laner), Saturday, 30 April 2005 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Hmmm, you're misunderstanding somewhat.

I only meant the final product sounded un-comfortable (stilted, forced, 'meta', the most 'IDM' (in a bad way) record they've done).

I'm sure they had a blast making it but it didn't come across in the finished product for me. Which is most untypical.

Maybe I am projecting, who really knows? I didn't however come here to continue slagging it off in some "me right/you wrong" fashion.

That said, I'm obviously not stimulating much in the way of meaningful conversation about it either so I guess I'll leave it!

Thanks for the reply upthread btw. What is your 'history' here in a nutshell, or a link? curious.

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 30 April 2005 21:12 (eighteen years ago) link

'Predictable' only in regards to their previous work
Maybe I'm misunderstanding - but Radical wasn't like anything else they'd ever done before. I don't remember singing, for starters, on any of their previous work. Even if you removed the vocals the music itself wasn't quite like anything they'd done before either. I know their sound had evolved over the previous years but even with that in mind I would not have ever predicted them to put out an album anything at all like Radical.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 30 April 2005 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Hmmm. Okay I guess I mean I heard that this was going to be a more commercial 'pop' album & was psyched about what they might bring to it. Less noise and more ... well I had no idea what the hell they might do really!

But all this seemed to mean was smoothing away the most jarring, spastic edges in their music, incorporate more 'pop' conventional funk rhythms & plain verse-chorus-verse structures. Even the best tracks like the one with Niobe on just didn't go anywhere, compared to their usual ever-shifting tunes.

As for previous work there are vocals on - Actionist Respoke, Doit, Die Seele Von Brian Wilson, Cache Coeur Naif, Schnick-schnack for starters.

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 30 April 2005 22:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I still think they have the potential to be amazing at it for what it's worth. They can write amazingly original melodies using sounds that are also very, very original & almost totally outside of whatever the current fashions might be.

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 30 April 2005 22:23 (eighteen years ago) link

following

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 16 June 2023 13:16 (ten months ago) link

three months pass...

its streaming in 20 minutes:

https://mouseonmars.bandcamp.com/live/bilk-listening-party

frogbs, Monday, 25 September 2023 17:38 (six months ago) link

really enjoying thise

what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Monday, 25 September 2023 18:16 (six months ago) link

yeah its really nice. second half so far even better than the first

frogbs, Monday, 25 September 2023 18:25 (six months ago) link


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