TS: Mekons vs. Gang of Four

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Another reason I've always loved the Mekons is that they capture the anthemic, globetrotting, political aspects of the Clash but - to paraphrase - they cut the crap. The Mekons may be the most important least self-important band ever.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Monday, 20 February 2006 21:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, absolutely. If this were Mekons vs. Clash? Mekons, no hesitation WHATSOEVER. The Clash were well-intentioned, thoroughly homosocial dunderheads infatuated with glory and, though I liked 'em well enough when I was 17, most of their music just seems dull as hell now. And Clash vs. Gang of Four? Please. (Though this was good -- Strummer to interviewer: "Don't talk about Clash and Gang of Four. The two bands don't belong in the same sentence." Interviewer: "What kind of sentence do Gang of Four belong in?" Strummer: "A nice long prison sentence." Strummer 1, Go4 0.)

xero (xero), Monday, 20 February 2006 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Didn't Steve Goulding play drums for both bands?

Wasn't the Three Johns drummer a um (clears throat) drum machine?

The Mekons may be the most important least self-important band ever.

well I'd say supplying a reading list w/yr lyric sheet, asking "Rock & Roll" to answer for its sins etc qualifies as self-important!

m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 20 February 2006 23:34 (eighteen years ago) link

"both bands" = Mekons and Gang of Four

xero (xero), Monday, 20 February 2006 23:41 (eighteen years ago) link

OK I should've figured that out...Hugo Burnham played drums in Gof4. Steve Goulding played in The Rumour IIRC before the Mekons.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 20 February 2006 23:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, but I believe Goulding also played in Gang of Four post-Hugo.

xero (xero), Monday, 20 February 2006 23:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Or "Gang of Four" post- and pre-Hugo, if you want to be precise about it.

xero (xero), Monday, 20 February 2006 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link

you're right...

A short biography by Steve Goulding himself:
I was born and raised in South London, England. I left school at 18, and worked in a publishing house and also house-cleaning for a couple of years. I played with bassist Andrew Bodnar in a pub rock band called Bontemps Roulez until we joined the Rumour, later Graham Parker's band, in 1975. After the band split in 1981, I played with Garland Jeffreys on his Escape Artist tour, having previously recorded the ESCAPE ARTIST album with him. Around this time I also played with David Bowie on the Johnny Carson Show at the invitation of GE Smith, who was the guitarist on Garland's album and was playing with Bowie at the time. A stint with the British band the Associates followed, as did a succession of European TV appearances with Roxy Music. A world tour with Lene Lovich led to an audition for Gang Of Four, who I played with for around 18 months until they split.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 20 February 2006 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link

don't mind me I'm a dick sometimes ;)

m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 20 February 2006 23:56 (eighteen years ago) link

That was not even a blip on the ILM Dickishness-o-Meter(tm).

xero (xero), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 00:01 (eighteen years ago) link

Steve Goulding also played on "Let's Go to Bed" by the Cure. And "Watching the Detectives."

x-post Yeah, but I always thought the reading recommendations and other liner note goodness on Mekons albums were kind of "for further research" bonuses, as much a pomo wink as Langford's cover art. Sure, some Mekons albums include bibliographies, but I figured that was not so much self-importance at work as it was the band's modest, honest eagerness to simply credit sources of inspiration.

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

Wow, I've never seen this: Gang of Four, New Year's Eve 1980, with Mekons Jon and Tom and backing vox:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC7B6FmC0AA#at=59

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC7B6FmC0AA#at=59

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 14 August 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link

four years pass...

https://www.discogs.com/Mekons-FUN-90/release/5196177

Mekons vs Baggy Dance Beats : i had forgotten just how fantastic this was

mark e, Thursday, 7 September 2017 20:26 (six years ago) link

Plus it's got their great Band cover.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 September 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42WnZxLYWrM

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 September 2017 20:33 (six years ago) link

indeed.
love it.

mark e, Thursday, 7 September 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link


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