t/s: battle of the electric postbop protokozmigroovers - eddie harris vs eddie henderson vs donald byrd vs freddie hubbard vs bobby hutcherson

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Kind of unrelated btw but the Jeff Beck + Jan Hammer Live album is hilarious

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 19:08 (sixteen years ago) link

I realize that irony has no place in serious music enjoyment but if I'm paying $7 for something I can chuckle to myself while playing air instruments all I please

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 19:11 (sixteen years ago) link

you should listen to red clay and straight life anyway

chaki, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link

I saw Eddie Henderson once a few years back at the Jazz Standard with the late great Hilton Ruiz. Pretty cool. I also very much enjoyed his liner notes for Miles's Someday My Prince Will Come, where he talks about Miles attitude towards Coltrane ("He lost his mind and can't play no more") and Hank Mobley (mimes hitting somebody over head with trumpet when hears fluffed notes) and describes why the people loved so much the first quintet in its various incarnations. Also like the fact that he is a psychiatrist (psychologist?)

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Check it out Eddie Henderson: Healing With Music.

James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 21:22 (sixteen years ago) link

pretty grover washington, but i like it

deej, have you heard the Kudu-era Grover albums? I think you'd really dig those.

Andy K, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 22:07 (sixteen years ago) link

wow what a story thanks james redd.

sunburst might be my favorite fusion album, spaced-out and funked-up at the same time.

i was rong upthread about freddie hubbard on cti, red clay & straight life are straight-ahead/swingin'.

m coleman, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 09:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Les McCann + Eddie Harris - "Cold Duck Time"

^ one of my all-time favorite recordings

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 09:37 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWt815iow0k

didn't realize there was a video!

this was the first time any of them had seen the music (except Harris). Trumpet solo is super off-the-rails wicked.

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 09:41 (sixteen years ago) link

electric byrd is an awesome record, guys

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 19 March 2008 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

I repeat, electric byrd is an awesome record, also, "the dude" is the fuckin' jam. Pretty much the best track ever for doing the morning stretch dance, you know, how you do the whole crick the neck and rub your hands and work your elbows like you just got up in the morning and have a lot of serious swaggering to do that day, but be funky about the process.

TOMBOT, Friday, 24 October 2008 04:52 (fifteen years ago) link

three years pass...

awesome spaced out sounds all around this one

river, Thursday, 19 January 2012 04:00 (twelve years ago) link

uh talking about Electric Byrd

I'm seeing bobby hutcherson Saturday

river, Thursday, 19 January 2012 04:01 (twelve years ago) link

dexter wansel belongs in this conversation. manzel too.

san lazaro, Thursday, 19 January 2012 04:13 (twelve years ago) link

three months pass...

amazing video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-4NTZSkzAE

tylerw, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

two years pass...

All about this tune today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK3nYwxO9q8

man alive, Thursday, 1 January 2015 03:42 (nine years ago) link

one year passes...

surprised this is the only Bobby Hutcherson thread, but RIP ... one of the greats
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/17/arts/music/bobby-hutcherson-dies-jazz.html?_r=0

tylerw, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 14:28 (seven years ago) link

gave out to lunch a listen for the first time in a while last week and his playing on that is so cool.

bagging area (map), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 15:15 (seven years ago) link

Also love his first (released) Blue Note alb as leader, Dialogue - one of the three or four most 'out' Blue Note discs for def, and what a line-up - Andrew Hill, Sam Rivers, Freddie Hubbard, Richard Davis, Joe Chambers

Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 16 August 2016 15:20 (seven years ago) link

Dialogue is great!

RIP

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 15:57 (seven years ago) link

damn, RIP. saw him live a few years ago on his birthday and it was excellent even though he had slowed down a lot. great band, had another vibe player that was a total shredder. i swear they did a cover of the jan hammer/jeff beck song "blue wind".

brimstead, Tuesday, 16 August 2016 19:03 (seven years ago) link

24hr memorial broadcast right now on WKCR:
https://www.cc-seas.columbia.edu/wkcr/story/bobby-hutcherson-memorial-broadcast

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 00:45 (seven years ago) link

he had a ridiculous amount of great albums from 66-72

great Canadian prog-psych debut from 1969 (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 05:39 (seven years ago) link

https://www.instagram.com/p/BJLQAYWD_55/

He was such a positive and creative force. Always challenging himself to the very end, his last album Enjoy the View has the feel of one of his classic Blue Note albums from the late 60's. Just a huge personality that emanated good feelings.

Austin, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 15:17 (seven years ago) link

jammed san francisco three times yesterday -- such an excellent LP, occasionally leaning in the CTI soul funk direction, but never getting too syrupy, and plenty of really edgy playing.

tylerw, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 15:28 (seven years ago) link

I think, when it's all said and done, San Francisco may just be my favorite album of his. But, holy hell, what a ridiculously difficult choice.

Austin, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 15:31 (seven years ago) link

Head On has always been my favorite, but then I just listened to San Francisco for the very first time yesterday. Damn, why did I not know that album?

great Canadian prog-psych debut from 1969 (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:08 (seven years ago) link

Head On is great, a little artier/more challenging ... iirc the bonus tracks on the CD reissue are pretty fantastic too.

tylerw, Wednesday, 17 August 2016 19:24 (seven years ago) link

three years pass...

Thanks to bargain bins, I’ve spent more time with Hutcherson’s supposedly lesser albums, and there’s a lot to love!

'Knuckle Bean,' 'Highway One' and 'Solo/Quartet' are all really cool listens.

The A-Side of ‘Solo/Quartet’ is Hutcherson alone playing vibes, marimba and other percussion via overdubbing. It’s spacey, sort of ambient and almost gives me the same kind of vibe as the Japanese “environmental music” that’s all the rage these days. I love the track 'Gotcha': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAJqCPDVePU

cooldix, Monday, 23 March 2020 06:34 (four years ago) link

great find

budo jeru, Monday, 23 March 2020 22:25 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

man, been on a bobby hutcherson kick again lately and was going to post one of the solo tracks myself! that single side of that album is just unbelievable. it's not on any streaming service in full! that stuff feels like "loop station" jams two decades before that was even possible. such a unique thing, i would have been over the moon with a full album of material like that. as it stands, it's just a completely amazing anomaly in his catalogue.

going for my second listen of the day on harold land's the peace-maker from 1968. one of the lesser-discussed projects in their series of collaborations and holy hell, what a masterpiece. harold is at his coltrane-inspired best, writing all but one of the tunes. he really blacks out on the opening title track. there's an uncredited (afaict) harmonica (!!) performance on "stylin`" and the mighty buster williams is on bass throughout. such a gem of an album, i can't believe that it's still never received a proper u.s. reissue. highly recommended.

get shrunk by this funk. (Austin), Saturday, 29 January 2022 17:32 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

This just arrived in the mail.

https://i.imgur.com/W4ekt28.jpg

STILL. SEALED.

Chuckling at myself heavily atm.

Haven't heard the whole album in years. Will play it and report back.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 21:16 (two years ago) link

Oh, it's wonderful of course and I still absolutely love it. Second half was a lot more enjoyable than I remembered it and McCoy Tyner sounds as great as ever (but I am also much more excited to hear it this time). Nothing beats side A though. I think I like it so much because it was just a unique thing for a jazz guy to do a Mike Oldfield kind of setup. And it's just filled with all of those lovely percussive harmonic layers give it a very exotic feel. Almost Martin Denny meets Miles Davis — so much fun! Very classic album in desperate need of a proper reissue.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 23:57 (two years ago) link

*; gives

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Tuesday, 29 March 2022 23:58 (two years ago) link

Classic! Might have to whip out the record now.

cooldix, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 00:03 (two years ago) link

I find no fault in doing so! Used vinyl leaning towards the cheapish end for now, but going up (just like everything else!). Worth every penny, I'd say.

Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 00:12 (two years ago) link

this Calvin Keys album that was reissued recently is so great: https://www.discogs.com/master/592769-Calvin-Keys-Proceed-With-Caution

brimstead, Wednesday, 30 March 2022 01:02 (two years ago) link

have been really rockin hubbard's keep your soul together lately

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 01:08 (two years ago) link

How has Grant Green not been mentioned yet in this thread? Alive and Live At The Lighthouse are both in the pantheon here. Also Herbie Hancock's Fat Albert Rotunda.

(I'm definitely going to check out Solo/Quartet based on Austin's write-up... I'm only familiar with San Francisco and Montara)

enochroot, Thursday, 31 March 2022 02:29 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

not exactly the right thread for this, but then again i can trace the discovery of the opening tune here back to cooldix's march 2020 post. so here's my covid summer jazz mixtape, which i gave to a friend and promptly forgot about until tonight while rummaging through old cassettes in his basement:

https://soundcloud.com/arquivo_fssr/covid-summer-jazz-mixtape

1. bobby hutcherson - gotcha
2. binder quintet w/ john tchicai - közép-európai zajongások (excerpt)
3. dave holland and sam rivers - conference of the birds
4. chico freeman - kings of mali
5. harmut geerken and john tchicai - invocations for angels and demons
6. don cherry and latif khan - airmail
7. wendell harrison - where am i
8. ?
9. the pyramids - black man and woman of the nile

props to anyone who can help me ID track 8. starts around 46:40, it's a live recording with like a bongo solo, then a flute joins in, and then a band comes in briefly before it fades out.

budo jeru, Friday, 16 September 2022 05:22 (one year ago) link

I never really considered checking out that Solo/Quartet album (solo vibes? from 1980?!), but listening to "Gotcha" now, I realize the error of my ways. I should have just trusted Austin.

enochroot, Friday, 16 September 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

I'm definitely going to check out Solo/Quartet based on Austin's write-up

― enochroot, Wednesday, March 30, 2022

Heh, ok, I guess I did consider it.

enochroot, Friday, 16 September 2022 16:10 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c15pI0i9JAc

eddie henderson - say you will

this is music from heaven

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 3 April 2023 21:41 (one year ago) link

Nice. Now that I have a working turntable setup at home again I'm scooping up some Eddie Harris records, because you can always find them cheap and they always have some delights. Last one was Live at Newport, which has 1) a fantastic drum sound (with conveniently naked samples on the second track) and 2) at least a few bangers, including a cool 'reed trumpet' solo.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 3 April 2023 21:59 (one year ago) link


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