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*genuinely appreciates* - Yes, you are.

*Thinks it's alright* - sign me up.

― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 14:30 (twenty years ago) link

Speaking of "Kiss them For Me"....

chapterhouse/siouxsie sample

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 14:32 (twenty years ago) link

"Kiss Them for Me" is okay. I don't know if that constitutes genuine appreciation or not.

― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 15:00 (twenty years ago) link

Just looked at an allmusic review of a Creatures collection, but when I got to the bottom I discovered I could have asked Ned directly.

― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 7 January 2004 15:04 (twenty years ago) link

Heh, well, I am to please. ;-)

I do like "Kiss Them for Me," I thought it was very alluring and interesting (and I loved the subject matter). Great video too -- reminds me that a decent video collection and B-side comp is WELL overdue from them.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 15:30 (twenty years ago) link

Am I the only one who genuinely appreciates "Kiss Them for Me"?

I LOVE THAT SONG.

_Hai!_ sounds a lot like the spacier moments of _Boomerang_ with bigger, fatter drums, which of course means that I think it's GODLIKE.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 23:38 (twenty years ago) link

What's all this piffle about Mz. Sioux being dead?

Anyone hear anything about Siouxsie?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:09 (twenty years ago) link

four months pass...

Revive because I'm listening to _Nocturne_ RIGHT NOW. If I wasn't at work, I'd be doing a twirly goth dance.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:39 (nineteen years ago) link

NEWSFLASH: "Dear Prudence" still eats a diseased llama dick.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link

SEARCH: MONITOR

total evil riffage, amazing off kilter drum beat from budgie

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Dan, don't let your oppressive office environment prevent you from revelling in the celestially dark majesty of La Sioux. Get up and dance, I say!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link

NEWSFLASH #2: "Helter Skelter" completely kicks ass. They really should have left The Beatles alone after recording this.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 20:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah, Nocturne. It's a beautiful, wonderful album, it is.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 20:58 (nineteen years ago) link

NEWSFLASH #3: "The Passenger" is somewhat overrated, nicht wahr?

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 20:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh BTW, you were right, Hai! is goddamn great.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:01 (nineteen years ago) link

RESULT!

(Actually, this doesn't really surprise me, but hey; I'll take every "you were right" that gets flung my way.)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link

NEWSFLASH #4: "Little Johnny Jewel" and "Sea Breezes" are somewhat underrated, si?

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:07 (nineteen years ago) link

one of my favorite bands. classic

search: everything, especially "Painted Bird"

destroy: who told they are dud.

― Elvis is Dead, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I would actually like to reiterate that _TINDERBOX_ IS FUCKING GODLIKE AND A MUST-OWN ALBUM FOR EVERYONE ON EARTH.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Say again?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Excellent singles, but, as the thread-opener relays, impossibly thin pop productions undermine subsequent albums. Later, around Tinderbox, the productions decide to become impossibly thick instead. Which didn't really help matters very much.

Regardless, in spite of the opinion that everyone seems to be throwing around, I love the Dear Prudence cover. And Spellbound is absolutely amazing.

― Atnevon (Atnevon), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:25 (nineteen years ago) link

WOAH-OOH-OH
OH YOUR CITY LIES IN DUST
MY FRIEND

*sway, sway, hand flutter*

(xpost: Hmm, Atnevon's production point might explain why _Tinderbox_ is perfect; it's the fulcrum point between their two extremes.)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I think the pop production helps the songs. I don't know how could another kind of production make the singles better than they are. They are wierd pop singles, that is why they are so good.

― Elvis is Dead, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:33 (nineteen years ago) link

(I mean seriously, how amazing must an album be when the weakest song on it is "Party's Fall"?????????)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I started a thread about this band = Holy fuck, was 2001 a long time ago.

Actually, I think that the last time I listened to them might have been in 2001.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:34 (nineteen years ago) link

And to make a Beatles cover is like to run naked in a church - everybody will hate you for this. But I think they made a pretty good job.

― Elvis is Dead, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link

(What's amusing is I don't think I've never actually heard most of the tracks people are talking about. I only ever had Once Upon a Time and the "Love In a Void" demos. Oh wait, I bought another one once and got rid of it quickly. It was the one with "Christine, banana split lady".)

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:38 (nineteen years ago) link

And to make a Beatles cover is like to run naked in a church - everybody will hate you for this. But I think they made a pretty good job.

Um, except everyone loves their cover of "Helter Skelter" (where "everyone" actually means "me"). The problem is that the song "Dear Prudence" is an irredeemably twee piece of shitty songwriting that should be beaten with sticks.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I love the white album and I think the Beatles are.. the Beatles. NOBODY CAN MAKE COVERS OF THEIR SONGS. It's a sin. You will fail, there is no chance you can beat the originals.

But at least, Dead Prudence is filler to a great album, in my opinion.

― Elvis is Dead, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link

See, I'd like the song more if it actually WAS called "Dead Prudence" and was maybe 40 BPM faster.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:49 (nineteen years ago) link

*blank-eyed Numanoid stare over aggro beats*

"DEAD Pru-DENCE
WILL-YOU-NOT-COME-OUT-AND-PLAY
DEAD Pru-DENCE
GREET-THE-BRAND-NEW-DAY."

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link

"Dear Prudence" (Fuck Deutschland Mix) +- Atari Teenage Riot

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Dear... not dead.

The problem is i am Elvis is DEAD.

But now I think "I SEE DEAD PEOPLE". Pour Prudence...

― Elvis is Dead, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link

a/ "dead prudence" (sheep on drugs mix)/ b/ "dead prudence" (feindflug mix)

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 22:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I love the white album and I think the Beatles are.. the Beatles. NOBODY CAN MAKE COVERS OF THEIR SONGS. It's a sin. You will fail, there is no chance you can beat the originals.

I dunno. I like every Beatles cover over the original except for that Journey cover of "It's All Too Much".

All of the Siouxsie Beatles covers are great, even that recent cover of "Blue Jay Way"

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 23:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, I forgot about "Blue Jay Way"! That's fantastic, too.

More credence for the "'Dear Prudence' is actually shitty" theory.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

would actually like to reiterate that _TINDERBOX_ IS FUCKING GODLIKE AND A MUST-OWN ALBUM FOR EVERYONE ON EARTH

OT$$$

With the upcoming heatwave, it might be time to give '92 Degrees' a few spins! OMG I love that song..

― Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 06:23 (nineteen years ago) link

five months pass...

reminder: tonight 11pm

Wednesday 20th October

Siouxsie Sioux guest presenting The John Peel show
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/alt/johnpeel/index.shtml

tune in !

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 18:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Sioux sounded pretty bored to start with ... maybe she was miffed to discover that tomorrows guest presenter is Robert Smith.

However, it picked up!

― Muppet Boy, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 22:17 (nineteen years ago) link

What stuff did she play?

― flowersdie (flowersdie), Thursday, 21 October 2004 11:40 (nineteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Revive to note the genius that is the Downside Up B-side collection. I had most of these songs on mp3 but the combination of the pretty cool artwork and liner notes and remastered-from-the-tapes-instead-of-vinyl sound = glorious. SO many good songs. "Pulled to Bits," "Drop Dead/Celebration," "Red Over White," "Coal Mind," "We Fall," "Tattoo," "(There's a) Planet in My Kitchen," "The Humming Wires," "An Execution," "Lullaby," "Shooting Sun," "Sleepwalking (On the High Wire)"...I could go on (and probably will as I continute to relisten to this).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago) link

"She's Cuckoo," "Something Blue" (man, that guitar part!)...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:22 (nineteen years ago) link

"An Execution" is total genius, as is "Pulled To Bits".

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link

And finally hearing the Thorn EP is a treat.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:06 (nineteen years ago) link

The first disc works as a nice precursor to that otherwise inexplicable first Creatures record. I was more interested in the late-era stuff because I stopped paying attention after Superstition and was curious to hear what they'd been doing away from the committee-killed gloss material on the records. "Spiral Twist" could be the worst thing they ever recorded. It nearly invalidates the entire history of the band for me. They'e always done this, the lowest low, then reclamation a la some perfect little moment like "Return."

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Monday, 17 January 2005 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link

"Spiral Twist" could be the worst thing they ever recorded

Not as long as "Got to Get Up" off Superstition exists.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 January 2005 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Aw, I like "Got To Get Up".

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 17 January 2005 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Ned, that doesn't come close to "Spiral Twist"...apart from her voice it could be the Fixx!

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Monday, 17 January 2005 22:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Aw, I like "Got To Get Up".

The version I saw at Lollapalooza still disturbs my soul. (Arguably it even crucifies my chest.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 January 2005 22:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Hah, "Got to Get Up" is easily my fave off Superstition. I remember seeing a great live version of it on 120 Minutes too.

― Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 10:59 (nineteen years ago) link

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Drugs -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoZivXDGgYM

― MaresNest, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:56 (one year ago) link

I love this one

― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 15:58 (one year ago) link

Somehow always puts me in the mind of The Aloof - Abuse

I think it's how the dutdutdut is often matched by a slowly descending double. E rush kosmische or something.

― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 16:01 (one year ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/music/story/2023-05-22/cruel-world-siouxsie-iggy-pop-festival

I forget which thread the cruel world fest was discussed on, but here’s Simon Reynolds review

― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 30 May 2023 23:18 (ten months ago) link

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