― Adrian (Adrian Langston), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 06:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 06:25 (twenty years ago) link
― Nick H, Wednesday, 8 October 2003 08:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 10:29 (twenty years ago) link
This may not have been you, but I once head John say in an interview that Phil Collins had stolen the PiL drum sound! Apparently, after hearing the drum sound on 'Flowers' Collins requested the same engineer that PiL used and set up the drums exactly the same! Is this true? Was it you!
Yes, this is true, and it was me. John is correct but there is a bit more to it. I learnt how to get that "kind" of drum sound by watching Hugh Padgham record in the same Stone Room at the Townhouse. Hugh recorded Peter Gabriel's 3rd album and if you listen to a song called 'Intruder' you will hear what I'm talking about. When It came to doing the PiL album I used similar methods to achieve a similar sound. During the making of the 'Flowers of Romance' I bumped into Phil Collins in the corridor of the Townhouse, I had worked as an assistant on his first LP, and he was very inquisitive about how I was surviving working with the evil Johnny Rotten! I told him John was a top class geeza, and promised to introduce them if he was keen.
Later that day me and John went to the Townhouse canteen to eat boiled cabbage and mash, and in walked Phil so I introduced them. Much to all our surprise they got on like a house on fire! Anyway back to the drum story... Much later Phil was producing a Chris Bailey (of Earth Wind and Fire) album, and he wanted THAT drum sound, but Hugh was off working with the Police. Phil had by then heard snippets of the PiL album. So, the day we were in mastering the 'Flowers' single remix at the Townhouse cutting rooms next door, I got a call from Phil saying HELP! So I went in for an hour or so and dialed it up!
― rw, Wednesday, 8 October 2003 13:34 (twenty years ago) link
Pardon granted for: Squonk
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 13:44 (twenty years ago) link
There is lots of Phil Collins-associated music that I like, and lots that I loathe. I generally find him to be unbelievably smarmy, though, so it's hard to like even the good stuff.
― southern lights (southern lights), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 14:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 14:08 (twenty years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 8 October 2003 14:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 9 October 2003 08:43 (twenty years ago) link
(this, btw, would also fit into the ILE "funniest things said while having sex" thread)
"No really, Gail, he was there and John Martyn was on guitar, and he talked him into playing and John Stevens said halfway through one improv piece "Right you lot, Phil and I are gonna have a little chat on the drums now so the rest of you cunts can just shaddup, alright?"
"Yes, that sounds like good old John," sighed G. Four-second pause. "Dirty old man that he was..."
(according to G, every Brit improv legend is or was a "dirty old man" heheh).
Anyway, as a drummer the boy Collins dun good on the John Cale Island trilogy and also on Bob Fripp's Exposure. The latter, come to think of it, is not currently available on CD either except as an expensive and not recommended import.
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 9 October 2003 09:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 9 October 2003 09:29 (twenty years ago) link
― southern lights (southern lights), Thursday, 9 October 2003 14:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 9 October 2003 14:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 9 October 2003 14:26 (twenty years ago) link
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 12 October 2003 13:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Joe (Joe), Sunday, 12 October 2003 14:04 (twenty years ago) link
― robin (robin), Sunday, 12 October 2003 21:15 (twenty years ago) link
― damian_nz (damian_nz), Sunday, 12 October 2003 22:18 (twenty years ago) link
― damian_nz (damian_nz), Sunday, 12 October 2003 22:19 (twenty years ago) link
Has no one noted what a brilliant 'video actor' Phil Collins is? Not every artist puts their *all* into their visual performance (nevermind exact proper lip-synching) as Phil Collins does. Like, in the video for 'Mama', he literally looks like he's going mad with rage, hatred and desire, and you really believe it, you can't take your eyes off him... It is hard to believe this is the same guy who's being all cheery and silly in some of his other videos. That's what I love about Phil Collins, he is so multifaceted, as well as multi-talented. I don't claim to love *all* his songs (some of them I downright can't stand) but I don't turn my nose up at him as a musical artist. It takes talent to write a good pop tune, and that Phil Collins has written so many well-loved hits is testament to his song-writing skill, on top of being a brilliant drummer, a very decent keyboardist, and emotive vocalist. Now that I think about it, Phil Collins was the first pop artist I ever got into as a teenager. Ah, memories! :)
― Joi Raida, Monday, 13 October 2003 02:24 (twenty years ago) link
Haha that was me, babbling about "Domino"!
So what about that New Toyota Ad with Phil Collins?
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 13 October 2003 13:35 (twenty years ago) link
-- Fabrice
Yes. I used to have a copy, but I left it on my desk and it was the victim of office theft. It's hillarious, and again the word here is 'unintentionally'.
― Anna (Anna), Monday, 13 October 2003 13:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Baaderist (Fabfunk), Monday, 13 October 2003 13:49 (twenty years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Monday, 13 October 2003 13:50 (twenty years ago) link
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― Joe (Joe), Monday, 13 October 2003 13:53 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 17 November 2003 15:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Flaming Jugend, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 04:23 (twenty years ago) link
― dr. phil (josh langhoff), Monday, 26 April 2004 14:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― dr. phil (josh langhoff), Monday, 26 April 2004 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link
(I'm speaking of Trick of the Tail and Abacab)
― uh, Monday, 26 April 2004 20:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Joe (Joe), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― uh, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― uh, Tuesday, 27 April 2004 01:57 (nineteen years ago) link
"it's no fun/being an illegal alien!"
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 27 April 2004 02:38 (nineteen years ago) link
holy shit new modern drummer has FOURTEEN PHIL COLLINS BEATS
― cutty, Friday, 24 August 2007 00:53 (sixteen years ago) link
"He's totally punk rock, he's got on sneakers and a suit! It's crazy!"
― zaxxon25, Friday, 24 August 2007 12:33 (sixteen years ago) link
per the Miami Vice argument upthread, Phil actually had a song on the Miami Vice 2 sdtrk, one of his best solo songs, 'Take Me Home.' fcking great tune.
― the table is the table, Friday, 24 August 2007 14:01 (sixteen years ago) link
do you still subscribe to modern drummy, cutty
― Jordan, Friday, 24 August 2007 14:05 (sixteen years ago) link
Phil is an Honorary Negro. That's all the justification he needs.
― The Reverend, Friday, 24 August 2007 18:00 (sixteen years ago) link
I hate myself for reviving this thing TWICE, but I just listened to Hello I Must Be Going, and he can do the untrustworthy-cad-narrator as well as Randy Newman. Not all the time, but when he's on. "Like China" is probably the smartest song ever about defloweration. "Don't Let Him Steal Your Heart Away" is probably bad advice.
Also, my wife learned in her master's percussion methods class that Phil has an official cadence named after him. You know what it sounds like. DA-dum!, DA-dum!, DA-dum!, DA-dum!, dum-dum ("I can feel it coming in the air tonight...."). It's also in "Thru These Walls" and probably a ton of other shit.
― dr. phil, Monday, 14 January 2008 16:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Not that Phil needs any more defending, but: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy52yueBX_s
― rogermexico., Monday, 14 January 2008 17:08 (sixteen years ago) link
Or rather...
http://adweek.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/08/31/gorilla.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy52yueBX_s
― rogermexico., Monday, 14 January 2008 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link
Har!
― dr. phil, Monday, 14 January 2008 17:24 (sixteen years ago) link
Has no one noted what a brilliant 'video actor' Phil Collins is? Not every artist puts their *all* into their visual performance (nevermind exact proper lip-synching) as Phil Collins does. Like, in the video for 'Mama', he literally looks like he's going mad with rage, hatred and desire, and you really believe it, you can't take your eyes off him
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 14 January 2008 17:31 (sixteen years ago) link
i was listening to "abacab" the other day...it's such a weird album, sort of mainstream 80s pop, but there's still odd structural and instrumental passages that betray that they used to be prog chops dudes, strange mix and i kind of love it...there's a weird subgenre of music like this, all the prog dudes really embraced the 80s, like the 80s yes albums, and asia, stuff like that...maybe rush's 80s albums like signals and grace under pressure have that same vibe (tho rush wasn't really prog exactly)
― M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 14 January 2008 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link
http://youtube.com/watch?v=QZOc-DbE5ko
― Lolpez, Monday, 14 January 2008 18:57 (sixteen years ago) link
"the "gangsta" way he dealt with his wife's affair with his decorator (ie, an ultra-spiteful appearance on TOTP with a tin of paint on the piano)."
anyone have a youtube of this?
― r1o natsume, Monday, 14 January 2008 19:03 (sixteen years ago) link
i was listening to "abacab" the other day...it's such a weird album, sort of mainstream 80s pop, but there's still odd structural and instrumental passages that betray that they used to be prog chops dudes, strange mix and i kind of love it...
This goes for a lot of late 70s/early 80s AOR by musicians with a prog background. Not a fan of "Abacab" though.
― Geir Hongro, Monday, 14 January 2008 19:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Prog Phil is just too much for me to process, can’t enjoy it
― calstars, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 00:46 (two months ago) link
Hello, I Must Be Gnoming
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 00:56 (two months ago) link
In sum, it doesn't appear that Phil Collins needs much defending.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 01:07 (two months ago) link
He's no stranger to you and me
EPIC TOM FILL
― Sane clown posse (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 11:40 (two months ago) link