― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 14 March 2003 19:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 14 March 2003 19:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
John's motif of "taking the rock n' roll ride to the edge of explosion only to take a step back when it beckons" has been a cursing and blessing, I think. We've gotten a lot of different side projects and a lot of great music out of it, I believe. (Why does no one mention the Sultans or Back Off Cupids?), but perhaps sacrificing making that one little dent that no one will ever forget?
― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 14 March 2003 21:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 14 March 2003 21:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
Why Chuck doesn't like RFTC: 1)he don't wanna 2)bassist Petey X is indeed the least effective musician in the band, a big qualm for Mr. Wiggle Hips 3)their rhythm is closer to (in Chuck's Stairway words) Big Black's "jerking" of the beat than most garage rock. It's headbanging music, up-down-up-down. Like Ned, I have to MOVE to it when I hear it, usually by headbanging, pogoing, air-guitaring or pummeling my legs with my fists (leg-drumming?). But I can't really twist to it. But I can't twist to White Light/White Heat either, and he claims to like that...
Easy-way-out-don't-know-what-they're-talking-about critics oft mention bands that LOOK like RFTC when detailing the band's "influences," which is likely to piss off a real hep-cat-the-groove's-where-it's-at guy like Chuck. If the band didn't dress like a soul revue, he'd probably leave 'em alone (in fact, he might like 'em more if they looked like Die Kruezen but had a horn section, just cuz it'd be so perverse). I appreciate Chuck pointing out the lack of BOTTOM in RFTC's stuff, but I think he misses how much they've got on the TOP. There's treble hooks flying ALL OVER THE PLACE in their music, and Camp X-Ray, like Yancey said, is where they finally get as much meat in their lyrics as in their sound (though "Outsider" is painfully incoherent). Though I still feel Chuck would also give them a break if their lyrics were sex-slobber or life-gets-you-thoughtfully-cranky Dag Nasty/Everclear stuff, you know, something he could IDENTIFY with. RFTC may just be too inchoate-or-welladjusted for him p.o.v. wise.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 15 March 2003 17:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
And I did some J. Geils vs. RFTC spinning yesterday. Freeze-Frame holds up ("Centerfold" is a fine example of how UNSTOPPABLE RFTC would be if the rhythm section was swingier - THE BEST band rather than one of the best), but RFTC wipes the floor with the Atlantic best ofs. Punk inspired, well, BOTH bands to tighten up. And your unproven claims of minstrelsy seem pretty weird coming from a guy who'd rather have us listening to Peter "Whammer Jammer" Wolf.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 15 March 2003 17:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
Yeah, let me second all that. Been a denizen of the RFTC mailing list that Donut Bitch runs for years now, and they're a fine and dandy bunch over there, passionate about their music (including a lot of the bands that Chuck likes in comparison!) and friendly as hell at the shows even while everything's going nuts. Never had a mosher land on my head at one of them, for a start.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 15 March 2003 18:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 15 March 2003 19:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 15 March 2003 19:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
― chaki (chaki), Sunday, 16 March 2003 12:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 16 March 2003 18:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Sunday, 16 March 2003 18:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― chaki (chaki), Sunday, 16 March 2003 22:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 9 October 2004 02:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 9 October 2004 02:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 10 October 2004 01:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah, what he said! (He said while listening to "No Hands.")
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 7 February 2005 23:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― pretzel walrus, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 15:39 (seventeen years ago) link
― pretzel walrus, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― circa1916, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 18:52 (seventeen years ago) link
― axelnormand, Thursday, 5 April 2007 15:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 5 April 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mike Dixn, Thursday, 5 April 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link
― Chaucer Arafat, Thursday, 5 April 2007 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link
HOT SNAKES
― David R., Friday, 15 August 2008 17:21 (fifteen years ago) link
Yes.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 August 2008 17:32 (fifteen years ago) link
do people like night marchers and/ or obits?
― mizzell, Friday, 15 August 2008 17:59 (fifteen years ago) link
No
― Steve Shasta, Friday, 15 August 2008 18:06 (fifteen years ago) link
without the bold red font and the exclamation points it just feels like something is lacking.
― chicago kevin, Friday, 15 August 2008 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link
so i just learned that rick froberg made his national television debut with the obits on the jimmy fallon program two weeks ago. they played "fake kinkade" and it was kinda boring. then jimmy fallon came out and called them "my brothers" (cause he's from brooklyn, i guess).
― iiiijjjj, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link
I think "LAX" pops into my head on a weekly basis
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 28 October 2010 15:00 (thirteen years ago) link
L.A.! L.A.!
― She Got the Shakes, Thursday, 28 October 2010 15:34 (thirteen years ago) link
something about the oppressive low end on suicide invoice is so weird. i like it, but it's a genuinely weird sounding rock record, like it was mastered using some secret NASA-grade technology and now as a result there's this totally out of control, artificial-sounding mix when played on common peoples feeble home stereo systems. juxtaposing it with freakin melodica on the first track only enhances the weirdness.
automatic midnight is sorta the same way, but it's so much more lo-fi that its brutal mix sounds natural by comparison. still, even that album has the distinctive honor of slowly but surely eviscerating the stock stereo speakers in my poor old honda.
― del griffith, Thursday, 28 October 2010 19:28 (thirteen years ago) link
Salton City!
― grandavis, Thursday, 28 October 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link
never as big a fan of these snakes as i feel i should have been. "oppressive" is an OTM way to describe their sound. that suffocating sonic blanket coupled with froberg's unrelenting hostility makes for an uncomfortable listening space, unless i'm in exactly the right mood. have similar problems w early mastodon. makes me feel like that woman with a boot on her head.
― naked human hands and a foam rubber head (contenderizer), Thursday, 28 October 2010 20:23 (thirteen years ago) link
but salton city is a jam for life
true, easily one of the top 10 songs to ever rhyme gasoline with deir yassin
― del griffith, Thursday, 28 October 2010 20:31 (thirteen years ago) link
Clearly not as good as Yank Crime was, but really good nonetheless.
― macaroni rascal (polyphonic), Thursday, 28 October 2010 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link
This band, I mean.
Still listen to the three records all the time.
― Simon H., Thursday, 28 October 2010 21:19 (thirteen years ago) link
discovered that I never got suicide invoice for some reason. *rectifies*
― dayo, Thursday, 28 October 2010 23:38 (thirteen years ago) link
Word is that Rick Froberg is dealing with a viral heart infection right now. Godspeed, sir!
― Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 12 June 2011 21:22 (twelve years ago) link
jesus, how does one even get a viral heart infection? i thought that was something only dogs got.
i'm a big rick fan and hope to buy some of his art one of these days.
― del griffith, Sunday, 12 June 2011 21:36 (twelve years ago) link
http://getthisgallery.com/images/uploads/inventory/postersmaller.jpg
― del griffith, Sunday, 12 June 2011 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
obitsband Rick has a viral heart infection. He's okay, but we need to cancel July shows. Very, very sorry & will reschedule...
― Alpaca Lips (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 12 June 2011 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS1nvjW-7DM
here's the bag digest of what John, Rick, and Jason (Gar had something more important to do) slipped into their bags when they visited the now-closed am03ba h0llyw00d in early M@rch.
― the burrito that defined a generation, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 03:17 (four years ago) link
Stoked that Reis gave such gushing love to Bo Diddley. I love Bo and love when other people love Bo.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 03:19 (four years ago) link
when rick pulled out those bert records i was like oh man you are in for a treat
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 03:24 (four years ago) link
one of the greatest bands of the 21st century. this is one of those groups where i absolutely remember being stopped dead in my tracks the first time i heard them ("Our Work Fills the Pews", on KXLU.)
― omar little, Friday, 8 March 2024 17:47 (two months ago) link