Jorge Ben Jor S/D

JaXon:
>does anyone have a clue which album the song Comanche from the Black Rio comp comes from? a google/amg/discogs search turns up nothing.

Jorge Ben - Negro e Lindo

thank you, one year later.

It looks like Dusty Groove will be reissuing Ben's eponymous 1969 LP — Rogerio Duprat-directed, with "Take It Easy, My Brother Charles" — in August. I'm excited!

was africa brasil reissued on vinyl? is there a 12" or 45 out there of 'taj mahal'?

awesome!

can't believe what africa brasil is selling for now... $100 or up. somebody please reissue this thing.

a banda do ze pretinho from 1978 is pretty slamming, btw

I've been listening to Jorge Ben for a few years now but until this year I realized how important his music is for me. For albums I'd recommend I'd go with his early 70's albums:

Jorge Ben (1969)
Forca Bruta (1970)
A tabua de esmeralda (1974)
Africa Brasil (1976)

He is very prolific (last time I checked he had 35 albums under his belt) but I recommend starting with any of these 4 albums first, as it captures Ben at his most wildly inventive and features many of his catchiest songs.

O Bidu Silencio No Brooklyn (1967) is pretty glorious too, though the sound quality isn't great. I would add Ben (1972), which includes what I think is his first recording of "Taj Mahal."

I bought Africa Brasil brand new from Amazon.co.uk about 18 months ago; it's not going for £60+ second hand from a seller. Fucking hell.

Anyway, if you like Africa Brazil you should probbaly try the new Seu Jorge album, America Brasil O Disco, which is some kind of (very good) tribute / ideological/aesthetic follow-up.

ya i hope dusty groove re-releases o bidu with better sound. anyone seen their new JB reissue?

'O Bidu' is great too. I've been obsessed with the gil and ben acoustic set 'Gil e Jorge' for a while. Some misses, a lot of hits.

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O Bidu Silencio No Brooklyn (1967) is pretty glorious too, though the sound quality isn't great.

I love this one too. It's weird -- I'd only heard mp3s of the CD which had that overly-reverbed sound. Then I bought a copy of the US pressing (mono, on Kapp/4 Corners) off ebay and it sounds completely different: clean backing tracks, and his voice clearly mixed but far louder than the instruments (unlike the cd where it kind of all blends together). Maybe there's different mixes floating around, or maybe that CD release had done some fakey-stereo remixing. Either way, it's a great album and should definitely be made available again.

can't believe what africa brasil is selling for now... $100 or up

Wow, I had no idea. Does it matter what the pressing is? (Mine is Philips Brazil, 1976, catalog # 6349 187. Weird sleeve -- cardboard, but really thin with no spine, like some 12-inch singles used to have.)

Anyway, great album. I've almost never DJed in a bar without played "Ponta De Lanca Africano (Umbabarauma)." Other faves (probably fairly predictably) are "Taj Mahal" and "Xica Da Silva" (the latter of which Boney M do a good cover version of, by the way.)

it seems that even the recent CD reissues are selling for close to that price? I bought it new for £8 only a couple of years ago, what's going on?

Besides Africa Brasil I've only heard a couple of his mid-60s albums, which didn't make any particular impact on me. Have to delve more.

A Tábua de Esmeralda - probably my favorite of his albums. super duper emotional. at one point it sounds like he's about to cry as he's singing.

Yeah, that record is really beautiful!

even the recent CD reissues are selling for close to that price?

Not here (not even close), though this site has a Japanese pressing at $280 (Brazil closer to $50.00):

http://www.musicstack.com/album/ben,jorge/africa-brazil_-_philips

(Japanese pressing is a CD, actually. And one LP is priced at $20.80. I never know what to believe with these things.)

Reading about 50% of this thread and scanning the rest I can see that nobody has really given Jorge's early 80s period it's proper props. Just heard the Bem-Vinda Amizade LP and if you're into slick new-wavey "ethnic funk" (i.e. "balearic"), this will totally whet your whistle.

Jorge Ben's 80s period (when he became Jorge Ben Jor) is most known here in Brazil for "W.Brasil", a track with references about an ad agency, drug dealers, Tim Maia and his usual nonsense. It was sorta comeback, but the commercial success of this tune was so huge that people kind of forgot all his brilliant albums from the 60s and the 70s. He was the "W.Brasil" guy.

you make me sad.

I need some info about the different versions of "Taj Mahal" that are out there. IIRC, I have some 80's-90's live versions, a medleyed version on piano, the Africa Brasil version, and something that sounds like it predates all of them and which has one of the most FEROCIOUS percussion breakdowns I have ever heard in my life. I can trace the source records on all the other versions, but I can't find any concrete documentation about this one at all.

Taj Mahal later recorded a song called "Jorge Ben." True!

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, February 10, 2003 12:45 PM (7 years ago)

lol 7 years ago, but this HAS to be the cut off of the Tropical LP (1977) (and that breakdown is massive as fukk)

the song "georgia" off said LP is str8 fire 100% beautiful

also i want to say that jorge ben in the 70s rivals stevie wonder in just releasing a slew of the best shit ever made

can't believe what africa brasil is selling for now... $100 or up

Amazon still lists it new for that price. Even used some are selling it for $75

anybody tempted to pay $100 for africa brasil should pick up the salve jorge 14 (!) CD box set

1. Samba Esquema Novo (1963)
2. Sacudin Ben Samba (1964)
3. Ben é Samba Bom (1964)
4. Big Ben (1965)
5. Jorge Ben (1969)
6. Força Bruta (1970)
7. Negro é lindo (1971)
8. Ben (1972)
9. Jorge Ben 10 Anos Depois (1973)
10. A Tábua de Esmeralda (1974)
11. Solta o Pavão (1975)
12. Gil & Jorge - Ogum Xangô (1975)
13. África Brasil (1976)
14. Salve, Jorge! Raridades e Inéditas - Duplo (1963-1976) (double CD with rarities)

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/edwardiii/Salve_Jorge.jpg

:O

why is christmas so far away, fuck you jesus

I can't believe someone had to post the contents of the Boxset for someone to mention Solta o Pavão (1975). It's nestled right there in between A Tabua and Africa Brasil, so it's no major departure...I dig it front to back.

is Ogum Xangô something other than the album I know as just Gil e Jorge?

it is the very same

always thought this guy missed an opportunity to really make his name into a palindrome

jorge ben neb egroj

I've been listening to a banda do zé pretinho (1978) a ton lately and I'll put that b-side up against any other side of songs in his catalog

maybe crazy talk but I was *really* digging it last night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM56NuTew_s

dope, reminds me of "cinco minutos" a bit

title track is the bomb too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTuN-BnrKW4

can't believe what africa brasil is selling for now... $100 or up

looks like it's come down to $50 i guess but dang. i wanted to buy this for my gf for her b-day, among other things like all stockpile-of-small-presents-style, but ehm i'll find something else. too poor. like maybe another really great jorge ben album that i can afford.

this one is only $30 and is so wonderful (different cover than i've seen before)
http://www.discogs.com/sell/item/28129335?ev=bp_titl

i've been meaning to buy it for like six years

actually, half that on ebay. i'd actually buy that, but i'm not buying records right now
http://cgi.ebay.com/JORGE-BEN-7-PS-EP-BRAZIL-TABUA-ESMERALDA-1974-/130426016475?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item1e5dff12db

^ looks like a 7"?

forca bruta is awesome

http://www.dustygroove.com/item.php?id=prcy48xh2b

xpost. o u rite. ha

this was my jam all summer long

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbSYwWazwt4

I got Africa Brasil (on CD) off Discogs for about £20 a few months ago, you just have to be patient...

Everyone should own this album btw.

Jorge Ben, 70 today. Congratulations

touring the US again next week

I don't think Africa Brasil is on Spotify

But its on Youtube

Gonna see him perform again Saturday night (last saw him in 2004)

bummed abt the itinerary... looks like the only dates are FL, DC, NYC and SF

tho I guess it saves me the temptation of dropping $60 to see him

i would pay $6000 to see jorge ben play a concert in tx

i love jorge ben so much, i would fall to pieces if i ever saw him perform live

I'd say Solta o Pavão is the most slept-on classic Ben album of at least several.

― Dexter Holland's Opus (Deflatormouse),

its got some heaters for sure, "cuidado com o bulldog", "para ouvir no radio", "dorothy" top my list

Never even heard of that one! Will have to give it a spin soon.