westerns: CoD

More than a decade ago I saw the start of what looked like a quiet cowboy film set in the snowy mountains. Even though I'm not really into these films the setting really impressed me, it seemed incredibly atmospheric but I was far too tired to watch it. Maybe the film didn't stick to that setting but I hope it did. It looked like it was from 60s/70s, it was in color.

Ring any bells? I'd love to know what it is.

any actors at all?

like chaps idea of multi media picks

books: yeah to McCarthy, particularly all the pretty horses. sudden books, by the excellently named Oliver strange, good pulp stuff from maybe the 60's I guess? jack reacher of its time. and there's another uberviolent series similar that'll come to me, was it edge? yeah I think it was: edge. jt edson stuff decent reads, little formulaic. haven't read lonesome dove but I'll get to it.

TV obv deadwood. haven't seen lonesome dove, I'll get to it.

movies: few dollars more, once upon a time in the west from Leone. Rio bravo for the gaudier style, tho tbrr I never dug john Wayne much besides.

No clue who the actors were. I can't even remember what language it was in.

lol well played

Never mind Lonesome Dove darraghmac check out Yojimbo and Sanjuro. Once you have watched Toshiro Mifune in his pomp then Clint Eastwood becomes completely unnecessary.

I like lots of unnecessary stuff! but yeah I've meant to check that stuff out for a long time too

was given recs of some obscure 70's westerns from an aul fella at the weekend but damned if I remember anything of it now

seven samurai is the
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There's some great 70s revisionist westerns - Jeremiah Johnson, McCabe and Mrs Miller, The Missouri Breaks

No Shane, High Noon or Liberty Valance here!

Congratulations on being the first person in the history of the internet to post a "Best 26" list of western movies!

btw, I agree with you about Ride the High Country vs. The Wild Bunch. It's a pretty sweet list you've put together there.

I'm not so happy with that list; there's at least six Italian westerns that I'd put up there

Of the modern ones, I feel Tombstone is the most under-rated or at least I can't recall anyone rating it much at the time.

More than a decade ago I saw the start of what looked like a quiet cowboy film set in the snowy mountains. Even though I'm not really into these films the setting really impressed me, it seemed incredibly atmospheric but I was far too tired to watch it. Maybe the film didn't stick to that setting but I hope it did. It looked like it was from 60s/70s, it was in color.

Ring any bells? I'd love to know what it is.

Maybe, The Great Silence?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063032/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_94

Someone identified it for me on the Hateful Eight thread but thanks anyway. It's a pretty good film.

Ah, I was right then! Great soundtrack by Morricone too.

Indeed.

I'm not so happy with that list; there's at least six Italian westerns that I'd put up there

― Josefa, Wednesday, August 23, 2017

I tried every Leone and shift in my seat through the spaghetti things.

Would then recommend A Bullet for the General, The Big Gundown, and the aforementioned The Great Silence. One of those spaghettis might stick to the wall. Of course there are loads of silly ones too.

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Clementine, Valance & Yellow Ribbon are the top Fords for me, all essential.

and the best revisionist westerns are likely Ulzana's Raid, Good Bad Ugly, and perhaps McCabe & Mrs Miller.

Robert Preston proposing to Debbie Reynolds:

"Why, for you, child bearin' would come as easy as rollin' off a log."

"Well, I... think I'd rather roll off a log, Mr. Morgan."

1939 was such an amazing year for westerns, after eight years of mostly B flicks no one remembers you suddenly get

Stagecoach w/John Wayne
Dodge City w/Errol Flynn (Flynn's accent kind of incongruous but he does a good job anyway)
Union Pacific w/Joel McCrea
Destry Rides Again w/Jimmy Stewart
Jesse James w/Tyrone Power & (hot young) Henry Fonda

ive never seen Union Pacific

I admit that's the one I haven't seen either - it's supposed to be on the level of the others, which are all great. It's curiously difficult to find Joel McCrea westerns via the normal channels. I need to see Colorado Territory and Four Faces West for starters.

started watching Shoot Down the Sun last night, p odd (although tbh maybe not odd enough), but with a great cast.

generally a big fan of the "revisionist" and counter-culture westerns that proliferated in the wake of Peckinpah and Leone - from Ride the High Country and the Shooting through stuff like Comes a Horseman. Would include El Topo in here too

has anybody seen this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hired_Hand

Comes up a lot, mostly because of Bruce Langhorne soundtrack, I think, but no.

has anybody seen this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hired_Hand

Yes, it's one of the must-see revisionist westerns of the '70s. Low-key, very well acted.

The western historian Philip French points to 1972 as a watershed year for the genre, based on films such as The Culpepper Cattle Company, The Cowboys, Jeremiah Johnson, Bad Company, and Ulzana's Raid. But one could extend that to 1971-1973 imo, to take in The Hired Hand, McCabe and Mrs. Miller, and (though I'm not such a fan of it) High Plains Drifter, among others.

The Culpepper Cattle Company, The Cowboys, Jeremiah Johnson, Bad Company, and Ulzana's Raid

never seen any of these, but have at least heard of the last two

...and Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid for 1973 also

The Cowboys is John Wayne training a gang of young boys to be tough (double meaning in the title). Was supposed to be Wayne's last western but he came back to make The Shootist, which is superior though not flawless imo

the only John Wayne movie I've ever seen is the Searchers.

The Cowboys is also notable because <SPOILER ALERT> it's one of the few films where Wayne is killed onscreen, in this case by Bruce Dern as a character called "Longhair" (SYMBOLISM).

xps Wayne also came back to do the Rooster Cogburn movie w/Kate Hepburn.

But back to The Hired Hand, I remember it being good, but disappointing. Will need to rescreen.

xp oh yeah forgot. I've never seen Rooster Cogburn thanks to tepid word of mouth on it

revising my opinion of Shoot Down the Sun upwards after getting to the end, has a great ending sequence

Warlock, a novel quite popular on I Love Books, was made into a Cinemascope oater by producer-director Edward Dmytryk in 1959, and damn it is a weird one (tho less so than the book, of which I've read 50 pages). Henry Fonda is an Earp-like freelance "marshal" hired to clean up a mining town, his gambler sidekick and possible lover Anthony Quinn in tow. Richard Widmark is their semi-antagonist, Dorothy Malone a vengeful figure from the past. (Star Trek's future Dr McCoy also has a sizeable role as one of the cowboy gang.)

Also very weirdly, Widmark's younger brother is played by Frank Gorshin, later a popular TV/club impressionist whose act regularly featured his Widmark imitation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgLUMPjuHy4

It's just barely a western, but nowhere else for this...I'm positive that anyone who loves The Straight Story will also love The Grey Fox, Richard Farnsworth's Canadian film from 1982. (Coppola's company distributed it in the U.S. when it came out.) I never saw it back then, and I wouldn't be surprised if I never get a chance to see it again. Worth the wait--much beauty in the love story, the cinematography, the soundtrack (the Chieftains, a few years after Barry Lyndon, and a line in the prologue about Farnsworth's character, leaving San Quentin in 1901 after 33 years, being "released into the 20th century."

Dmytryk's Warlock (see above) now on Blu

https://www.slantmagazine.com/dvd/review-edward-dmytryks-warlock-on-twilight-time-blu-ray/

have seen 91

https://www.slantmagazine.com/features/the-100-best-westerns-of-all-time/

The Lone Ranger, eh

they kinda fumbled at the goal line listing The Searchers as a 1965 movie

well, typos happen

Have seen 69, though there's 3-4 I'm not sure about. Have seen very few of the ones from the 2000s.

It's an OK list, a bit safe maybe. I'd put Jesse James (1939) on there, as well as A Bullet for the General(1966), The Big Gundown (1967), and The Hired Hand (1971) off the top of my head.

I haven't verified it for myself, but I've actually heard good things about The Lone Ranger. It seemed to be one of those movies that started developing a minor cult within months of flopping at the box office. Still not sure I want to subject myself to more Depp mugging, though.

putting Day of Anger on my list

Just watched Allan Dwan's Silver Lode, which if anything is more direct about its HUAC allegory than High Noon -- Dan Duryea's villain is named McCarty. DD and Dolores Moran as the good-bad prostitute supply the acting juice; Lizabeth Scott is kinda wasted as hero John Payne's loyal bride. (Oh yeah it's set in the middle of a July 4th celebration.) One great long tracking shot as Payne dodges fire, one of the better Dwan films I've seen out of 20.

RFI what is the meaning of the Jeremiah Johnson gif?

"i nod in approval." don't overthink it.