Skyfall: Bond #23

disagree

i think I kinda prefer Casino over Quantum though. Skyfall, Bond-wise my least favorite of the Craigs. But the theme song and the villain are A+, so it's not a total writeoff.

Also I like that whole Macau thing with the sexy dragon lady & the komodo dragons

Casino is quite clearly the best of the Craigs.

I really enjoyed watching all of the Craig Bond movies *shrug*

In fact I think Connery is the only Bond so far whose debut isn't also his best.

it's all better than Roger Moore's entire run tbh

otherwise Morbs otm re: quibbling at a Bond movie

that parkour/crane chase in Casino still blows me away by how great it is

my favorite Skyfall factoid is how Ben Stein became obsessed with Javier Bardem's character

that anagram thing means they were all saying "mum" after all?

I mean, don't get me wrong -- all 3 Craig Bonds are great and I can happily rewatch any of them. the quibbling comes from a place of love, at least for me

lol, yes DJP

I don't mind attempts to humanize bond but bruce wayning him wasn't really the way to go.

― christmas candy bar (al leong), 17 February 2013 21:56 (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mind the fuck out of attempts to humanise bond, go make yr own stupid movie if you don't want to make a bond one you pretentious fuckin hack

― birmingham six, guildford four, mumford & sons (darraghmac), 17 February 2013 22:00 (8 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this was directed at mendes, not al leong :(

― golfdinger (darraghmac), Tuesday, November 12, 2013 9:40 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMo_HcRBnUY

the craig bonds for me are like this

casino royale >>>> skyfall >> QoS

but i do enjoy all of them to some degree (CR is a classic, skyfall has incredible elements, QoS is a nice diverting minor bond more than a catastrophe)

well none of them has a four-hour slog through a melting ice palace, right

i probably agree with that, with the proviso that the good-to-average bond is a nice diverting minor bond movie and stepping above that ito of reach is probably best done from a position of extreme strength/confidence as opposed to 'fuck james bond i wanna make a modern day theme srs movie'

we should really poll what the worst Brosnan film was, although we might have to throw out the ice palace one just to make it fair

it kind of went GoldenEye >>>>>>>>> rest of them

yeah

all of them worth watching for the exact length of time you were watching them and nary a nanosec more

madonna obv a low point

I've only seen Tomorrow Never Dies once but I remember really enjoying it. The World is Not Enough seems like it's on cable every other weekend and gets funnier and funnier every time I see it.

it's a bad bad bad bad bad bad world is not enough

quantum of solace is vastly better than this i thought. have trouble even defending it as a whole, beautifully shot movie but otherwise

skyfall sucks!

the action sequences are some of the worst i've ever seen since i watched Babylon A.D. the other night. they're terrible! and i've seen stone cold steve austin movies.

The only thing I remember about Quantum of Solace was a fight in an elevator (that *was* in that movie, right?).

is skyfall the one with a silhouette fight scene like those ipod commercials

Brosnan:

Goldeneye>>>>>>WiNE>>TND>>>>>>>>DAD

silhouette fight scene sucks as a fight scene but is amazing as a visual

applies to a lot of modern fight scenes tbf

yeah i think what i really appreciate about 'casino royale' was how clean and economical it was w/r/t direction, martin campbell is p clearly a guy in the peter yates/frankenheimer mold of unflashy skilled action directors (while not rising to their level.) QoS was incoherent, skyfall was quite a visual spectacle but at the expense of virtually everything else. and really, like myself and others have said the depiction of the female characters was horrible. and bond's final gambit was like if mcclane at the end of die hard shot gruber and he pulled holly out the window with him.

I feel like a direct line can be drawn between my love for the Craig Bond movies and the PTSD I had from seeing The World Is Not Enough in the theater

this movie sucks.

― scott seward, Tuesday,

But will he still feel the same on Wednesday...

Thursday. Friday. Saturday. Sunday.

hate with me through the weekend

it's pretty to look at though

the neon fight in the glass skyscraper is v enjoyable

but its over in 5 seconds. there's no suspense! same with the club fight with the lizards. the build-up sucks and its over before you know it. its almost as if the director wanted to get the action over with as fast as possible just so he could have more endless saddo stuff. and the beginning with the train and all that is one of the worst bond beginnings. so lame. it is 2012 after all. should have been thrilling. i've seen some pretty thrilling bond set-pieces. the intro should knock your socks off.

yeah that's true. the (pretty) action was def an afterthought in skyfall

i kinda miss pierce brosnan. i liked him as bond. i got nothing against this guy he's cool looking but i think i'm just a pierce fan. i'm no bond expert. i liked the one with halle berry. halle berry was in it.

in all fairness i should mention that i still have 50 minutes to watch in this movie because i went to bed last night before it was over. but i watched the first 3 hours.

brosnan would make good bond villain now. like how michael caine played the bad guy in the remake of sleuth.

and the beginning with the train and all that is one of the worst bond beginnings.

Yeah no it was really really good. Best bit of the film easy.

When he landed from his spacejump or w/e and adjusted his cuffs and drank the heineken ya that was tops

i think i'm just jaded because half the straight-to-dvd speeding car action movies made these days take place entirely on the tops of trains.

skyfall was quite a visual spectacle but at the expense of virtually everything else

Yeah, that is pretty much why I love it... And to be honest, a description that fits nearly all my favorite movies.

yeah I have really nothing bad to say about the intro

idk, I could go out on a limb and say that Bond wanting to save an agent instead of being locked into his job broke character a little. the playing of him as having a heart to contrast with M's apparent heartlessness was a little ham-fisted

Mamfisted

Again, those of you from the north of england will want to have adjusted yr sets there

i kinda miss pierce brosnan. i liked him as bond. i got nothing against this guy he's cool looking but i think i'm just a pierce fan. i'm no bond expert. i liked the one with halle berry. halle berry was in it.

isn't that the one with the ice palace?! seward you are bonkers

Yes it's Ice Palace, AKA perhaps the worst of all the James Bond films.

Brosnan wasnt a terrible Bond. But jfc those movies are silly as wheels. I mean, I like dumb fun but watching those Brosnan movies now is like injecting sugar directly into my eyes

the invisible car is like whaaaaat is even happening now am i being trolled (answer: yes)

i like the ones w robbie coltrane as bond's lovable oligarch pal