Yasiel Puig: I Can't Even Think of a Word That Rhymes!

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puig would have been a deserving ROY in a lot of other years (and in the AL this year). and i generally think the gap between him and jose has been overstated

twist boat veterans for stability (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 04:10 (ten years ago) link

I agree--after a moment's thought, I realized I was doing the kind of nitpicking I hate. Also, Fernandez made up so much ground the last month, credit to the voters for not freezing the vote in August.

clemenza, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 04:16 (ten years ago) link

not that fernandez's season wasn't historic, of course. but puig had a pretty insane season (or 2/3 of a season) too, 4th in the majors in wRC+

twist boat veterans for stability (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 04:20 (ten years ago) link

The interesting question is, in light of how mercurial Puig's season was, and weighing that against how much of a roll of the dice young pitchers are, who would you rather have going forward? Puig's about a year-and-a-half older.

clemenza, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 04:28 (ten years ago) link

definitely puig, mostly because he plays every day and like you said is less of a gamble than a young pitcher. he's not just going to forget how to hit, and his walk rate showed a pretty steady improvement over the course of the summer. i feel pretty good about him being a star

twist boat veterans for stability (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 04:33 (ten years ago) link

also he's got so much defensive talent, i think once he grows up and settles down a bit he'll be a definite plus in the field

twist boat veterans for stability (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 04:34 (ten years ago) link

Didn't realize Grant Brisbee had a column on that question just today:

http://www.baseballnation.com/2013/11/11/5090124/rookie-of-the-year-yasiel-puig-jose-fernandez-wil-myers

Will second this: "Still, never pick the pitcher. Although it's really, really tempting in this case."

clemenza, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 04:55 (ten years ago) link

ok i'll take jose

mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 05:00 (ten years ago) link

If "going forward" means the next ten years, I'd take Puig, but if it's the next five years (i.e. until free agency) I would probably take Fernandez. Great pitchers are a lot harder to find and develop.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 07:19 (ten years ago) link

Dee Gordon in the red laces

― Andy K, Wednesday, October 23, 2013 6:56 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

LOLOLOLOLOL

action bronson pinchot (sanskrit), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 13:25 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

i wonder what Puig has to do that moralizing will be permitted by Rob Neyer.

bnw, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link

Content!

Andy K, Tuesday, 31 December 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link

four weeks pass...
one month passes...

If you go back to the beginning of this thread, you seemed to be one of the skeptics.

clemenza, Sunday, 23 March 2014 20:29 (ten years ago) link

skeptical of what?

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 24 March 2014 04:30 (ten years ago) link

That he's for real--you seem to be throwing cold water on the idea. Maybe I misinterpreted.

clemenza, Monday, 24 March 2014 12:18 (ten years ago) link

i was skeptical that he was God

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 24 March 2014 12:39 (ten years ago) link

The emigration of Puig.... more complex than the 30-second version.

Puig’s journey, according to claims made in court documents and detailed in interviews, had been underwritten by a small-time crook in Miami named Raul Pacheco, an air-conditioning repairman and recycler who was on probation for attempted burglary and possession of a fake ID. Pacheco had allegedly agreed to pay the smugglers $250,000 to get Puig out of Cuba; Puig, after signing a contract, would owe 20 percent of his future earnings to Pacheco. They were not the first to employ this scheme, a version of which has catapulted many of baseball’s new Cuban millionaires to American shores. It is usurious and expedient, illicit and tolerated. Even if you are as freakishly gifted as Yasiel Puig, there is no humanitarian boat lift delivering you to Chavez Ravine.

Every time the smugglers picked up their satellite phone to call Miami, though, Pacheco seemed unable or unwilling to meet their demands. It was unclear whether he was stiffing the smugglers or whether the smugglers were gouging him. For every day of nonpayment, they upped Puig’s price by $15,000 or $20,000. The calls between Mexico and Florida grew furious. The days turned to weeks. Holed up in that dump of a motel, all four migrants in the same dank room, Puig was so close to the prize—now was not the time to lose faith—and yet having just been liberated, his fate was never more out of his hands. The defector had become a captive.

“I don’t know if you could call it a kidnapping, because we had gone there voluntarily, but we also weren’t free to leave,” said the boxer, Yunior Despaigne, who had known Puig from Cuba’s youth sports academies. “If they didn’t receive the money, they were saying that at any moment they might give him a machetazo”—a whack with a machete—“chop off an arm, a finger, whatever, and he would never play baseball again, not for anyone.”

http://www.lamag.com/features/2014/4/13/escape-from-cuba-yasiel-puigs-untold-journey-to-the-dodgers/print

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 15:56 (ten years ago) link

Aside from the really dumbass way this whole defection "embargo"/ charade has to get done, a lot of Puig's innocence /danger traits remind me of Ruth stories (with the immigrant culture shock layered over them).

also, a stooge and devil:

Puig discovered the round-the-clock comforts of Denny’s, returning day after day for steak and eggs. Flipping channels, he stumbled upon the Three Stooges and spent hours nyuck-nyuck-ing himself silly....
On June 3, 2013, a year after setting foot in this country, Puig found himself in the Dodgers lineup for the first time. He wore the number 66 on his jersey, the whimsy of clubhouse manager Mitch Poole, who thought Puig, with his frenetic ways, was “kind of like the Tasmanian Devil.”

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:55 (ten years ago) link

the guy who wrote this article was on Kevin and Bean (KROQ's morning show) and sure was interesting what has and is happening to this guy.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 03:08 (ten years ago) link

he's on yesterday's BPcast too

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=23311

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 April 2014 05:58 (ten years ago) link

just half-assed a fly ball, dropped it, threw to second for a force out

mookieproof, Thursday, 17 April 2014 20:26 (nine years ago) link

then made a crazy over-the-head catch running towards the wall

puig being puig

mookieproof, Thursday, 17 April 2014 20:30 (nine years ago) link

I wish to sit in the RF stands when I see the Dodgers next

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 April 2014 20:57 (nine years ago) link

4-4 with a double and a walk today

k3vin k., Thursday, 1 May 2014 19:41 (nine years ago) link

and got tagged out at first in the second game of the double header because he 'turned toward second'

http://giant.gfycat.com/UnhappyGiddyJaguar.gif

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 1 May 2014 23:25 (nine years ago) link

hes 8 for 8 with 5-6 innings left to play in this one

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 2 May 2014 00:05 (nine years ago) link

can't wait to see this guy in Queens in a couple weeks

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 May 2014 03:25 (nine years ago) link

damn he went all in for that catch

imago all the sheeple (Spottie), Monday, 5 May 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link

bottom of the 9th, might as well

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Monday, 5 May 2014 15:56 (nine years ago) link

bat flip on routine flyout <3

https://vine.co/v/M6FIdl73zQ5

mookieproof, Wednesday, 7 May 2014 21:50 (nine years ago) link

i approve of expanding the varieties of bat flip

that was clearly a "ugh whatever who cares" flip

linda cardellini (zachlyon), Friday, 9 May 2014 05:34 (nine years ago) link

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BniBZGoIMAAemgL.jpg

mookieproof, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link

Really impressed by his OBP this year--19 walks

clemenza, Friday, 16 May 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link

(to finish that thought)...in 163 PA, .416 OBP.

clemenza, Friday, 16 May 2014 19:11 (nine years ago) link

just threw ball hard back to the infield... after a third-out fly

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 00:24 (nine years ago) link

:rolleyes:

Bee OK, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 01:09 (nine years ago) link

he's just lazy is all.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 03:07 (nine years ago) link

also 3 hits, double, walk

images of war violence and historical smoking (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 03:36 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoLke8jCYAA0F6i.png

polyphonic, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link

roped a hr, dayum

johnny crunch, Thursday, 22 May 2014 00:44 (nine years ago) link

is there not a 2k14 dodgers thread?

y did i not know dee gordon was tom gordons son

johnny crunch, Thursday, 22 May 2014 00:59 (nine years ago) link

should probably direct his anger towards the ump if he'd been calling that pitch a strike all game

, Monday, 31 May 2021 01:18 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

Shot: Yasiel Puig could do up to five years in prison for lying to the feds arising out of an illegal gambling ring.

Chaser: he was in over $200K in debt at one point, paid it, and then made 899 more bets in a two month period! https://t.co/NpxN6ls8SD

— Craig Calcaterra (@craigcalcaterra) November 15, 2022

mookieproof, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 00:43 (one year ago) link

not a name i remember but perhaps some of you do:

Federal prosecutors today also filed a plea agreement for former MLB player Erik Kristian Hiljus, 49, of Panorama City, who agreed to plead guilty to two counts of subscribing to false tax returns and will face up to six years in federal prison upon entering his guilty plea. Hiljus was an agent for Nix’s illegal gambling business but did not work with Puig.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 02:22 (one year ago) link


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