pampering of thy body
o_O
― Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Friday, 8 November 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link
feel like there could def be more than one more book come on
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link
bring us right up to present day, hil
― cozel tov (cozen), Friday, 8 November 2013 18:18 (ten years ago) link
i havent felt this way since the bourne movies that the artist shd be compelled by law to make a new one every year before theyre allowed to do anything else
― lag∞n, Friday, 8 November 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link
i want her to finish this up and then we can get some books on other historical subjects
― max, Friday, 8 November 2013 18:44 (ten years ago) link
would like to see mantel on italian unification e.g. or one of the russian revolutions.
This fucking book
Spent all day glued to the couch ripping through this, LOVE it
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 December 2013 03:40 (ten years ago) link
Did you rip through because there wasn't any Project Runway this week? :D
― Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 19:20 (ten years ago) link
lol no
I even ripped through it all day Sunday without turning on the TV once despite FOOTBALL which is like O_O
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 20:59 (ten years ago) link
FINISHED
need the sequel. goddamn that was a great book
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 December 2013 22:53 (ten years ago) link
2/3 of the way through Bring Up The Bodies
shit totally just shifted up a gear am literally planning my evening around reading this now omg I can't even stand it srsly how great is this
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 21 February 2014 00:25 (ten years ago) link
this is a cool way to learn abt history
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 June 2012 14:40 (1 year ago) Permalink
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 10:28 (ten years ago) link
seriously considered calling in sick to read wolf hall last week
i read a place of greater safety and it's great
― conrad, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 10:36 (ten years ago) link
present continuous
im goin to this
http://www.wolfhall.co.uk/imgs/generic/Wolf-Hall-Bring-Up-The-Bodies.png
― conrad, Monday, 10 March 2014 12:02 (ten years ago) link
I have only read the first novel but it's very good, you could even say brilliant.
The stage version would be a good thing to go to.
― the pinefox, Monday, 10 March 2014 12:22 (ten years ago) link
i'm reading the first one now, it is brilliant, i'm very happy there's a sequel.
― estela, Monday, 10 March 2014 12:57 (ten years ago) link
just finished second one
why can't all books be this good srsly
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 10 March 2014 16:12 (ten years ago) link
i guess i am the only one in the world who got bored by Wolf Hall
― nostormo, Monday, 10 March 2014 16:14 (ten years ago) link
off with yr head
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 10 March 2014 16:15 (ten years ago) link
what happened to the hbo/bbc mark rylance series that was supposed to happen?
― max, Monday, 10 March 2014 16:25 (ten years ago) link
i guess i am the only one in the world who got bored by Wolf Hall― nostormo, Monday, March 10, 2014
― nostormo, Monday, March 10, 2014
i got wolf hall for my wife, who devours books and loves historical novels. she didn't get through wolf hall at all. she said it was very well-written, but too cold. i'm going to try reading it sometime soon.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Monday, 10 March 2014 16:28 (ten years ago) link
i love the way mantel writes but i am maybe not 100% on her characters? i had to put wolf hall down at least temporarily b/c t crom is like way too good at everything. he is the best at scheming and politickin and he's a bad dude in general. like he's jack reacher.
i mean obv this doesn't last forever given what ultimately goes down but does it ease up in the 2nd one?
― adam, Monday, 10 March 2014 16:38 (ten years ago) link
Nah.
― Lee with three Es with an apostrophe S (Leee), Monday, 10 March 2014 16:43 (ten years ago) link
nope
I kinda missed rafe in the second one, call-me is a poor substitue (and obv crom knows it too)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 10 March 2014 16:46 (ten years ago) link
not a spoiler btw, rafe's just not in it as much
He's getting busy, I hear.
― Lee with three Es with an apostrophe S (Leee), Monday, 10 March 2014 16:48 (ten years ago) link
― max, Monday, March 10, 2014 11:25 AM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah really
― goole, Monday, 10 March 2014 17:13 (ten years ago) link
its happenin
― conrad, Monday, 10 March 2014 17:30 (ten years ago) link
same script as the play?
― goole, Monday, 10 March 2014 17:33 (ten years ago) link
play adapt: Mike Poulton
miniseries adapt: Peter Straughan
Filming will commence in Spring 2014 for transmission in 2015
― conrad, Monday, 10 March 2014 17:56 (ten years ago) link
thx!
― goole, Monday, 10 March 2014 18:05 (ten years ago) link
twenty fifteeeeeeeeeen
that's too long ;_;
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 10 March 2014 18:11 (ten years ago) link
transmission
― max, Monday, 10 March 2014 18:17 (ten years ago) link
Keeping Cromwell's posse and all the people of court straight is the hardest part about these.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 10 March 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link
the court ppl i had the hardest time with, lord this & duke that
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 10 March 2014 19:30 (ten years ago) link
I still can't really differentiate between Norfolk and Suffolk! Folk them tbh.
― Lee with three Es with an apostrophe S (Leee), Monday, 10 March 2014 19:32 (ten years ago) link
totes
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 10 March 2014 20:18 (ten years ago) link
Like, one of them is blustery, and the other is... pious and blustery.
― Lee with three Es with an apostrophe S (Leee), Monday, 10 March 2014 21:18 (ten years ago) link
norfolk, thomas howard, is part of the boleyn power bloc. suffolk, charles brandon, is married to the king's sister and kind of lacking in real power because the king unhappy about it. please consult the handy vades mecum at the front of ea. volume
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Monday, 10 March 2014 21:39 (ten years ago) link
so i read her first novel after i'd read these -- 'every day is mother's day' -- and it's an interestingly different beast, reminds me of spark at her most merciless
one thing i saw somewhere about wolf hall: the idea that contemporary literary fiction can't admire or be impressed by its characters but has to hold them at arm's length or disdain them. i think the, like, marysueishness of thomas cromwell is a really interesting thing.
but yeah everyone in EDiMD is horrible; it fails most when it seems like it doesn't want to be even-handedly horrible but accidentally sympathises with them.
she's really good, though
but i fear that wolf hall could be extended indefinitely, so i can see why people could find it boring. well, not indefinitely (he has to die at some point), but certainly it hardly seems to have been tightly plotted (they don't get to wolf hall in the first volume) -- i sort of suspect she's winging it a bit, or was at some point. this is one of her many points of contact w george r r martin
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Monday, 10 March 2014 21:42 (ten years ago) link
the description of boleyn's final moments was v moving & sad
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 10 March 2014 22:00 (ten years ago) link
breaking up the wolf hall saga into three books seems like a decision made based on a place of greater safety, which is great but SO long, and flags in a bunch of different places, and would probably benefit from being crafted or structured as 2-3 sections that would each need to stand alone
― max, Monday, 10 March 2014 22:05 (ten years ago) link
that being said im not even sure the butb stands alone, as such
I need this to be at least 5 books.
someone put hilary on the blower, I need her to understand what I'm asking
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 10 March 2014 22:10 (ten years ago) link
I think three books is enough but we need to start campaigning for the next series to be about Oliver Cromwell.
I can't imagine how much work and research goes into books like these and if I were Hillary Mantel I'd want to spend the next few years drinking cocktails and writing pulp about teenage s&m vampires.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 10 March 2014 22:18 (ten years ago) link
I don't think I've ever gone into historical fiction knowing less about a character and finishing the book loving the character so completely
ok that made no sense but I stand by it
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 10 March 2014 22:26 (ten years ago) link
hah er i bought these on someone's recommendation and left them on the shelf because i was like enh tudors. then i saw the name cromwell in connection with them and started reading them thinking man, i guess i was wrong about the tudor thing, cromwell, awesome. then i realised i was thinking of the wrong cromwell.
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Monday, 10 March 2014 23:23 (ten years ago) link
max do you think it was a publisher's decision, or something an agent or editor might have nudged her along the path to? it somehow feels not at all internal to the work on some level. and i sort of feel like it could have as easily been one brick as three long romps, and i feel like it would have actually been even better as three tightly plotted short novels, and i wish someone had pushed her either that way or in the direction of brick
on the other hand i feel like she deserves booker winner level publicity and money, so
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Monday, 10 March 2014 23:27 (ten years ago) link