pathetic pusha t moments

Fair enough, will you accept that as "the perception of clipses" etc? Because there was a time.

Throw the words "in nyc" in somewhere if u want

i think that if you want to truly understand the clipse narrative you have to listen to the singularly bleak we got it 4 cheap vol 3, especially the punishing despair in the 4 track stretch from "good morning" to "fuck you." i find it so fascinating how the same tribulations that turned both brothers numb caused malice to go christian and pusha to double down on his bullshit.

"desperate" mentioned upthread pretty much nails it for push i think. for yeeeeears he's squandered immense talent by devoting it all to his need for acceptance. he's spent a comical length of time whining about his lack of mainstream breakthrough. most reasonable human beings would reevaluate their priorities after two uber hyped albums arriving with consecutive thuds (i know consensus was that HHNF was nice, but i think it's boring). funny to think he might finally have it now at the age of like 40. kinda screams pyrrhic victory.

as i've said already i haven't examined his recent breakthrough anywhere near closely but if i did i bet i would see some herzog level irony in the narrative. from what i understand this could be his nic-cage-in-bad-lieutenant moment... grinding away looking increasingly pathetic for wayyyyy too long and all of a sudden the clouds miraculously break and he suddenly gets everything he ever wanted. i mean i guess i have to be happy for the guy but at the same time "euch"

as soon as i began reading that post all i could hear in my head was Patrick Bateman's voice

Ha Al

The album is actually great, overall, kind of a redemption

maybe i should just be happy to come to the record w/o a bunch of Clipse/Pusha baggage...i just enjoy the beats and most of the rapping. simple.

wish he would've ditched a feature or two, but oh well.

this is so great: pusha doing grindin' at sxsw while tyler, earl, taco, etc. rap along like giddy fanboys, and push is clearly appreciative (perhaps overly so, tbh).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PChuT0wnkog

pusha seems pretty likeable to me, and i'm happy he's getting his moment. he deserves a thread with a better name than this one!

"I knows better, get it, I NOSE BETTER"

*giant nose from super sloppy double dare descends from ceiling*

lol

why does everything always have to devolve to super sloppy double dare with you

lol whiney

i'm surprised that nobody mentioned how incredibly appropriate the marlo line is for the LP title. (after being disappointed at the poor showing of this poll). like, of COURSE pusha idolizes marlo, maybe the most idiotically hardheaded tv character. pusha also shares marlo's self destructive streak. his bro basically shoving the "walk away with some dignity" in his face and push is like "nooooo but i wanna be faaamous"

some of the lines on the new mixtape along the lines of "i know i'm making all the wrong choices but can everyone just pretend i'm tony montana for a sec". "i am forgiven" is just so painful. it almost becomes compelling in the same way marlo was kind of my fav character on the wire... but even though i'm spending a lot of breath bitching about push here my appetite for trainwrecks has decreased significantly as of late. yeucch

― cocktail onion (fennel cartwright), Thursday, February 14, 2013 2:48 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i know this isn't a thread for 'the wire', but this characterization of marlo stanfield bugs me, man! like...what show were you watching? is this a british person?

came out of lurk to respond

um... wire spoilers ahead?

it was a bit much of me to call marlo an idiot. he was pretty savvy. i think i was just annoyed by his nihilism. like... what was his endgame? what did he hope to achieve? like, the other kingpin dudes seemed to enjoy being kingpins, even stringer. but marlo always looked like he hated it.

same deal with pusha. i've always found him to be extremely unconvincing when he's "having fun". when he does these tracks like "i'm good" i got a serious uncanny valley creeped outedness. even in that video. i'm sorry, i guess i just refuse to believe that him and tyler the creator are friends.

also im canadian so kind of quasi british i guess. i even said i'm sorry there

i think your overall gist is pretty close to how i feel. especially, like, "my name is my name"...that wasn't a hot line! that was him being foolish! and the other big line of his that people quote, "you want it to be one way, but it's the other way"...i kinda do think the writers wanted him to come off stupid.

I love this thread title so much

i wish it would get more meta

April 24, 2009 - Pusha T is eating cereal and drops his spoon. Spoon is retrieved covered in hair. Pusha T brushes the hair off spoon but does not wash it. Continues eating cereal.

euuuuuch

August 7, 2003 - Pusha T has forgotten his mother's birthday and is reminded of it only because she is calling his cell phone now and he sees her number on the user ID. It is 11:00pm and he had planned on speaking with her earlier but he is tired now. He lets the phone ring and does not pick up.

Literally bags of pusha t

thanks for responding FC.
marlo's nihilistic because american society has basically told him and everyone he knows to die in the gutter/prison. his world is really grim! he keeps relentlessly and joylessly gobbling up power because he can't help himself. it's a personality type that is rewarded here.

i basically imagine the 1% wealthiest people IRL to be as sociopathic and single-minded about power as marlo is, i mean how else could they live with themselves? i don't imagine they're any happier than marlo is, either. just read that article about mitt romney moping around the house after he lost the election.

marlo's basically a test case for what happens when capitalism is completely unregulated...you get some scary ppl running things.

"you want it to be one way, but it's the other way"-the security guard is pleading with marlo for a small measure of dignity and respect for his fellow human being. marlo is saying no, that's not how society works. and i have more money and power than you do, so i'm right.

X: Is it weird that you see coke Rap becoming a type of popular mainstream thing?

Pusha T: Yeah. I was just talking to CNN about coke Rap. And I was like, “Man, that’s so funny, because I know who made that term up.” The person who made that term up was like a blogger who loves Pusha T and Malice for articulate Rap and metaphors and things like that. But to coin it “coke Rap”—to love me for what you love me for and coin it that—is annoying. But it is what it is. They make these subcultures and genres. They didn’t call it coke Rap when Melle Mel was rhyming about the streets and so on and so forth. So it’s whatever.

DX: Well the idea of cocaine went from moving weight to something people stuff in their makeup compact at dance parties…

Pusha T: Yeah, that’s reality. It’s not called, “coke EDM” either. They don’t do that at all.

"King Push" is still an amazing beat, "New Slaves" on steroids

new album is pretty good. kehlani does one of the hooks! beanie sigel shows up!

beanie's voice has become so weird :(

the only song i like is 'got em covered' with ab-liva and an incredible timbaland beat.

sigel did age pretty hard, it's pretty effective in this context tho imo

this is a good beat!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crCFDQyfORM

Production on this whole album is top notch.

i dig this

yeah beanie i didn't recognize at first, i think he's had a hard decade

it is funny though, like if you ghostwrite for someone for so long you sort of unconsciously pick up their verbal mannerisms which i hear a bit on this album -- pusha delivering lines just like kanye would deliver them

i like "f.i.f.a" beat a lot

That's the qtip one!

Pretty good so far but some of the rhymes are stupid.

You have Heems on your year end list

that's how I can spot stupid rhymes

heh heh

Lmao well played. I liked this after a couple listens but that's only judging ~vibes~ and not listening to what he's saying.

this poll is so funny

this thread otoh like pusha t is super lame

man the Timbaland beats on this are his best in forever. 'Untouchable' is so good.

beanie's spot is weird but not upsetting like i was braced for. he sounds a bit like method man it's kinda cool actually

new album is dooooope.

i repeat: Pusha deserves a thread with a better name.

yeah, it's a great record. can't get enough of MFTR.

"Crutches, Crosses, Caskets" and Jill Scott's appearance on "Sunshine" = A+

Album is solid but I don't think it has real standouts, except "Keep Dealing." As far as Timbaland goes, "Untouchable" is good not great, poorly integrated chorus though. "Got Em Covered" is nails on chalkboard.

Idk any big negative reason to single dude out. He's a rapper that gets overpraised by a certain kind of fan and...that's mostly it.

this is pretty good - is every track going to be on "king push" proper?

this seems quite good, and enjoyably surprising - the track with beanie (who sounds bizarre) sounds like it could have been produced by el-p (did he use this sample for someone else?). so i give him props for trying something a bit artier, but im not sure it really gels, and i dunno if i really want to hear pusha going arty. as a rapper, i think hes at the bottom of his barrel at this point and has nothing new to say, or no new way of repeating his usual content in a way we havent heard already.

actually, its more a split between more trad stuff (MPA sounds like something from kanye's dark twisted fantasy) and the slightly outre stuff isnt it...

beans might have had part of his lung removed cut him some slack. voice is still there but not the power. he sounded like this whenever he popped up in 2015.

love the way he can sound conversational, quickfire lock a bunch of lines together with just the tempo or some internal rhyme or hitting the assonance riding the beat and closing with a couplet quotable. never get tired of coke dealing similes, monocle magazine eye for meaningful luxury reference.

FIFA is a jam!