lol fish bringin the mathematical realness
― you can get fuckstab anywhere in london (wins), Monday, 4 November 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link
Her voice plus the fuzzy red-line production makes FF so weird. You don't know whether to laugh or run away.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 4 November 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link
VIF: is it bleed or plead?
― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 4 November 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link
no it's what a clown, just in a berlin accent
― OutdoorFish, Monday, 4 November 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link
the songs here are basically divided to 1/3 arty twee 1/3 garage 1/3 psych/experimental/ proto everything
^^^ this (math be damned) and each third balances out the other two wonderfully. Hell of a journey between "Sunday Morning" and "European Son."
― The sweet spot between bad and unpleasant (Dan Peterson), Monday, 4 November 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link
I guess I'm playing it this week cuz I don't remember how "European Son" goes
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 November 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link
It goes drone/scrape/drone/squeak/drone...
― The sweet spot between bad and unpleasant (Dan Peterson), Monday, 4 November 2013 16:33 (ten years ago) link
This may be discussed on another thread, but has anyone read James Young's Nico book? Any good? I mean, is there value to it beyond just, "boy was Nico a wreck in the '80s"?
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 4 November 2013 16:39 (ten years ago) link
...and sound of breaking glass
― OutdoorFish, Monday, 4 November 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link
"European Son" is my vote and tbh the one i always want to hear off this, the others blow in and out
― when did you stop caring about (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 November 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link
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Bleak lol at this xpost
― you can get fuckstab anywhere in london (wins), Monday, 4 November 2013 16:47 (ten years ago) link
after listening to this alb, on and off, for the best part of 30 years, I finally got to stand at Lexington/125 earlier this year, so just had to vote for 'Waiting...'
― Ward Fowler, Monday, 4 November 2013 16:51 (ten years ago) link
Forget the lyrics. "Venus in Furs" is so sexy and odd and wondrous.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 November 2013 16:52 (ten years ago) link
"Heroin," just barely over "I'm Waiting for the Man" and "Tomorrow's Parties." Least favourite: "Venus and Furs," "I'll Be Your Mirror."
― clemenza, Monday, 4 November 2013 16:54 (ten years ago) link
One of the last two - probably "Black Angel..."
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 November 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link
There's an amazing couple of minutes in Jonas Mekas's As I Was Moving Ahead Occasionally I Saw Brief Glimpses of Beauty that uses "Run Run Run" as Mekas's kid runs around frantically. Skimmed through the half of the film that's up on YouTube, but couldn't find it.
― clemenza, Monday, 4 November 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link
i read a book about nico but i don't remember which one it was. it definitely talked a lot about how much of a mess she was in the 80s.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 4 November 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link
can I vote for the banana?
― OutdoorFish, Monday, 4 November 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link
nico icon wasn't exactly a flattering portrait, kinda flawed but compelling.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 4 November 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link
She was a despicable racist scumbag
― you can get fuckstab anywhere in london (wins), Monday, 4 November 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link
also I would have to vote "Venus in furs", one of my favorite songs (and inexplicably the first song my kid ever said "yay!" about at the end)
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 4 November 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link
"All Tomorrow's Parties" - mono album version. Scepter Studios forever.
― timellison, Monday, 4 November 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link
xp James Young's book is one of my favourite rock memoirs ever. He's a fantastic writer and it's as much about life bumping along the bottom of the music industry as it is about Nico.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 4 November 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link
^^this
― Blecch Dreieinigkeitsmoses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 4 November 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link
In the restaurant at the Chelsea Hotel sometime in the very early 1970s, Nico sat with a bunch of musicians, among them a beautiful mixed-race singer who'd worked with Jimi Hendrix. According to Fields, "Nico was, I dunno, feeling neglected, or drunk, but suddenly she said 'I hate black people,' and smashed a wineglass on the table and stuck it in the girl's eye. There was lots of blood and screaming. Fortunately she just twisted it around her eye socket, so the glass never reached [the eye] but it's not like she was being cautious." Fields claims the Warhol crowd spirited Nico on to a plane and out of the country the next morning, while somehow managing to placate the victim and hush up the affair.
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2007/mar/16/popandrock3
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 4 November 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link
voted I'm Waiting For the Man. Something about the pulse of that song, the way it's just like ONE ONE ONE ONE ONE ONE ONE ONE
Also see the Rolling Stones "Satisfaction".
Voted "Sunday Morning" cos GOD is that song too beautiful for words.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 4 November 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link
I never understood why mixed race people are more black than white. can anyone elucidate?
― OutdoorFish, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link
To a Nazi shithead like nico anything other than pure caucasian ancestry is to be abhorred obv
― you can get fuckstab anywhere in london (wins), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link
I always found something very scary about her eyes an facial expression
― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link
"[Hendrix] was the most sexual man I ever saw on stage", Nico confessed, "even Mick Jagger said so. It was not all the vulgar things he did with his guitar, though I enjoyed when he burned his guitar at the festival. It was his presence. He was like a cat. He moved elegantly for a man. He was suave. Did you know he was half Indian? Cherokee. I think these mixtures are very good. I am a mixture, part Turkish, part Russian. We would have made wonderful children together, such a mixture".
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:40 (ten years ago) link
she had a kid with Alain Delon, looks exactly like Alain Delon..
― Mark G, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:42 (ten years ago) link
No one should be overly surprised that Nico could be prone to contradict herself. However, that story from the Guardian is indeed horrible. It was new to me.
― Mule, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link
Alain Delon, as pretty as he was, is hardly an item for her defense. He's a miserable shithead.
― The normative power of the factual (Michael White), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link
she was the Ty Cobb of chanteuses
― eclectic husbandry (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link
soz I misspoke: nazi shithead who fancied jimi hendrix
― you can get fuckstab anywhere in london (wins), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link
i never knew that either. really gross. but that's what i gathered from the book i read too -- that she just turned into a really mean/selfish/ugly to the core sort of person. it was like she ended up spiritually hollow, and that's lamentable when it happens to anyone.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:48 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, that's about the impression I got from watching Nico: Icon last night. A long descent, basically.
― Mule, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link
― Blecch Dreieinigkeitsmoses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link
extended junkiedom usually accompanied by (or requires?) a certain narcissism (see also: Chet Baker)
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link
thanking u, morbs
― Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link
Actually before the kid even came up thought about posting in comedy French accent defending his mother's honor.
― Blecch Dreieinigkeitsmoses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 4 November 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link
― Blecch Dreieinigkeitsmoses (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 4 November 2013 19:07 (ten years ago) link
Sunday Morning is the one I listen to most often
― Hamburglar's smiling too (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 4 November 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link
I remember buying this on cassette for £3.99 around 91 in the Our Price in Victoria station.
― OutdoorFish, Monday, 4 November 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link
Supposedly, when she broke up with Lou Reed, he asked her why, and she simply said, "Louuuuu, I just can't sleep with Jews anymore!"
― crustaceanrebel, Monday, 4 November 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link
There's different versions of that story. One says he dumped her, and she was quoted on that afterwards.
― Mule, Monday, 4 November 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link
i first listened to VU and Nico when i was 17.
I'm Waiting sounded very strange to me. the melody was good, but i didn't know what to think about the minimalist monotonic drumming. obviously, the ONE ONE ONE drumming is what makes the song special. otherwise, it would be a garage number like There She Goes.
i remember loving Venus In Furs because of the violin and the dramatic atmosphere. now it's overplayed.
but Heroin was and still is the best song i heard from this record.the straightforwardness and sincerity of it sounded amazing. they still do. the noisy -ahead of it's time- guitar in the 2nd part and the intensive drumming sounded so special and matched the lyrics perfectly. they still do.
Lee's voice didn't change much since, which is a virtue.
― nostormo, Monday, 4 November 2013 22:17 (ten years ago) link
lou's of course..
― nostormo, Monday, 4 November 2013 22:18 (ten years ago) link
after these stories of Nico just randomly stabbing people in the eye and shit i'm kinda picturing her tenure with VU being like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x3rzeDeOuk
― some dude, Monday, 4 November 2013 22:33 (ten years ago) link
5. "Run Run Run" 4:2210. "The Black Angel's Death Song" Reed, Cale 3:1111. "European Son" Reed, Cale, Morrison, Tucker 7:46
i like these the best
― Bart get out I'm piss (am0n), Monday, 4 November 2013 22:38 (ten years ago) link
"wouldn't be a very convincing junkie" = "wouldn't do a convincing job as a vocalist of portraying a junkie", although it can get tricky to sort out what every mind-melting take is responding to
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 July 2021 19:04 (two years ago) link
It's about three notes in all so Bobby should be able to handle it.
― Wouldn't disgrace a Michael Jackson (Tom D.), Thursday, 15 July 2021 19:13 (two years ago) link
Halfway there OTM though
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 July 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link
If this was a response to me, I am more than fine with people writing or singing about things they haven't experienced firsthand. (I'm not even sure Reed had done heroin yet when he write the song.) I just don't think Thurston Moore would be convincing delivering those lyrics but do think he could sound great doing the music.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, July 15, 2021 1:40 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
No. Left.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 15 July 2021 19:35 (two years ago) link
Thurston spent the early 80s selling Chipwich ice cream sandwiches out of a freezer-cart, those were nearly as addictive.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 15 July 2021 19:55 (two years ago) link
Ah, sorry, Alfred.
― Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 15 July 2021 19:57 (two years ago) link
On my 90s show this week I had a 55th birthday celebration for this album:
FIRST HOUR:Nina Hagen - Sonntagmorgen (1996)Vanessa Paradis - I'm Waiting for the Man (1992)Teenage Fanclub - Femme Fatale (1997)The Ukrainians - Chekannya (Venus in Furs) (1993)Bettie Serveert - Run Run Run (1998)Bryan Ferry - All Tomorrow's Parties (1993)Billy Idol - Heroin (1993)John Doe - There She Goes Again (1995)Richard Barone - I'll Be Your Mirror (1990)Smile Kick - The Black Angel's Death Song (1999)Ride - European Son (1990)Mike Flowers Pops - The Velvet Underground Medley (1996)
SECOND HOUR:Luminous Orange - Sunday Morning (1999)Blackbird - I'm Waiting for the Man (1990)Orly Zilbershatz-Banai - פאם פאטאל (Femme Fatale) (1991)Psychopomps - Venus in Furs (1997)Motorcycle Boy - Run Run Run (1990)Iva Davies & Icehouse - All Tomorrow's Parties (1995)Angry Samoans - Heroin (1996)Cosmic Psychos - There She Goes Again (1992)Los Nikis - Yo soy tu sombra (1987)Clowns Smiling Backwards - The Black Angel's Death Song (1992)Bettie Serveert - European Son (1998)
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 19 March 2022 09:04 (two years ago) link
Three years ago, we had a string duo play Sunday Morning as our wedding processional. Best cover ever.
― doug watson, Saturday, 19 March 2022 09:24 (two years ago) link
<3
― ArchCarrier, Saturday, 19 March 2022 10:34 (two years ago) link
I may be incredibly hungover but I struggle to hear European Son in that Ride track.
― kraudive, Sunday, 20 March 2022 16:30 (two years ago) link
It's slowed down, but it's the same bassline and (such as it is) melody.
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 20 March 2022 16:37 (two years ago) link
!
https://press.warhol.org/press/the-warhol-announces-the-discovery-and-digitalization-of-the-rare-master-tapes-of-the-velvet-undergrounds-debut-album-the-velvet-underground-nico/
The Andy Warhol Museum announces the discovery and digitization of the rare master tapes of the Velvet Underground’s debut album The Velvet Underground & Nico (1967, Verve Records). Recently identified while processing Andy Warhol’s archive at The Warhol, the nine initial tracks recorded by the band were the bedrock of the album that became one of my most jarring and influential albums in rock music. The monophonic reel-to-reel ¼” tapes feature alternate versions and mixes of songs later issued on the 1967 release.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 18:10 (one year ago) link
just in time for a 56th anniversary box!
assuming there's nothing unheard on here, but it'll be cool to hear the Scepter stuff minus the acetate crackles.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 9 November 2022 19:04 (one year ago) link