rolling "Is This Racist?" thread

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glad to see white people aren't feeling too inconvenienced by blackface, their signoff was of utmost importance

your face comes with coleslaw (Neanderthal), Sunday, 3 November 2013 03:44 (ten years ago) link

haha otm thank GOD white republicans have weighed in

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Sunday, 3 November 2013 08:07 (ten years ago) link

should i tell my dad to stop saying "coon" to refer to raccoons y/n

Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Monday, 4 November 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link

nb i normally don't call him out on anything ever

Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Monday, 4 November 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link

That always amazes me when I hear Americans say it

Fictional Americans I mean

you can get fuckstab anywhere in london (wins), Monday, 4 November 2013 17:27 (ten years ago) link

it's an actual thing that people say in a non-dogwhistle way! it's just jarring to hear

Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Monday, 4 November 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link

Just fucking pronounce the 1st syllable you lazy bastards, then you won't be using a racial slur! #protip

you can get fuckstab anywhere in london (wins), Monday, 4 November 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link

well then you have "coon-ass," which iirc refers to white creole types in Louisiana, right? I had a friend in college that wore a trucker hat that said "coon-ass" on it and I was mortified every time

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Monday, 4 November 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link

when really they should just say this instead http://24.media.tumblr.com/d6b082611472398ac88d354ea750193f/tumblr_mtc1m85kli1s71q1zo1_1280.png

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Monday, 4 November 2013 17:32 (ten years ago) link

Just fucking pronounce the 1st syllable you lazy bastards, then you won't be using a racial slur! #protip

Sure, next thing you're going to want is for us to pronounce the 'O' in "opossum".

pplains, Monday, 4 November 2013 17:34 (ten years ago) link

My dad won't stop talking about all the beaver he sees when he goes fishing.

pplains, Monday, 4 November 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link

lol

Tip from Tae Kwon Do: (crüt), Monday, 4 November 2013 17:37 (ten years ago) link

well then you have "coon-ass," which iirc refers to white creole types in Louisiana, right?

cajuns, yeah. there is apparently some debate as to whether or not cajuns find the term to be offensive but i've never met one of the aggrieved in person. when i first started dating the woman who is now my wife (who is not from louisiana and not hip to the lingo etc) i inadvertently horrified her by referring to someone (of whose race she was not aware) as a "coonass motherfucker."

adam, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link

Google Nick Saban Coonass and find this.

pplains, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link

An African American coworker from Shreveport had a coon-ass cap or sign that he displayed prodly, so I don't think you have to be white to be one.

nickn, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link

"proudly"

nickn, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link

Just picturing a supervisor coming by and telling him, "just make sure the 'ass' part remains visible."

pplains, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link

Ha. "But not just the "ass!" He displayed it at his home, not at work.

nickn, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:40 (ten years ago) link

lol I can't believe I couldn't conjure the term "Cajun" back there.

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/TAb7cg0.gif

pplains, Monday, 4 November 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link

should i tell my dad to stop saying "coon" to refer to raccoons y/n

lol, and n

the doleful cant of a bigot blinded by fear and hate (DJP), Monday, 4 November 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link

toilet bears!

pervilege as a meme (contenderizer), Monday, 4 November 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link

a white sort-of-friend of mine has a solo shoegaze/loop project called 'slave names.' the name doesn't sit right with me but i don't know that it's racist. he has a webpage with only this video on the front page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SldZ-r5pHfA

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Sunday, 10 November 2013 03:57 (ten years ago) link

Surely there is a 90s TV show he can co-opt instead.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 10 November 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link

toilet bears!

ikr??

gbx, Sunday, 10 November 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link

xpost

otm. i'm leaning towards not overtly racist, but a really stupid choice. i'm slated to record and put a tape release for him. i really love his music, and i like him a lot, but i don't feel very comfortable doing it because of the name.

there was a VERY recent and VERY public incident with a local band full of actual racist rednecks called Dead Injun (!), who were publicly called out on their name/banned from a couple venues (they were always banned from mine), resulting in a ton of social fallout for me and a couple other people, therefore i'm really loathe to even start this conversation with him. :/

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Sunday, 10 November 2013 17:23 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Cricket Australia seem to think all Indians look the same and a bunch of white people on twitter defend it and say political correctness has gone mad and how its only whites complaining and because they are white they cant be offended. The usual..

http://i.imgur.com/PhivY0i.jpg

They apologised and removed it after complaints
https://twitter.com/CricketAus/status/408399367381340160

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 5 December 2013 01:54 (ten years ago) link

backstory - last week an announcer got reprimanded after mocking Monty over the pa system by speaking in a fake indian 'funny' accent.

Also its been a real nasty series so far after the summers events.

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 5 December 2013 01:57 (ten years ago) link

ok reposted it here
rolling 2013 thread on race and racism

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Thursday, 5 December 2013 01:59 (ten years ago) link

throwing out a flag: clearly racist

Nhex, Thursday, 5 December 2013 03:37 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

crepe

beef in the new era (wins), Saturday, 18 January 2014 12:36 (ten years ago) link

“Conservatives are not racist. So many of the Conservatives have foreign wives after all.”

- so many choice quotes in that article

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Saturday, 18 January 2014 12:50 (ten years ago) link

xposted from Tim McGraw thread: Tim McGraw Announces 2014 Sundown Heaven Town Tour

http://tasteofcountry.com/tim-mcgraw-2014-sundown-heaven-town-tour/

charitable remainder unitrust (crüt), Saturday, 18 January 2014 13:23 (ten years ago) link

McGraw was 1 when when the Civil Rights Act was signed, and the closest "sundown town" to his home in Start, Louisiana was Pollock, which was like 90 minutes away. It would not exactly shock me if he didn't know what this meant, but I guess someone could have spoken up.

lisa 龜 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 18 January 2014 17:32 (ten years ago) link

SAlso people will probably always say sundown to mean nighttime/twilight. The word is definitely not exclusive to racism afficianados.

how's life, Saturday, 18 January 2014 17:45 (ten years ago) link

I speak English and am aware of the literal definition of "sundown" — It just frustrates (but doesn't surprise) me that people in the country music industry would have such a poor understanding of the history whose signifiers they trade in. I agree w/Whiney: It would not exactly shock me if he didn't know what this meant, but I guess someone could have spoken up.

charitable remainder unitrust (crüt), Saturday, 18 January 2014 18:07 (ten years ago) link

I guess

mh, Saturday, 18 January 2014 18:15 (ten years ago) link

maybe i'm the real racist

charitable remainder unitrust (crüt), Saturday, 18 January 2014 18:24 (ten years ago) link

Who knew Gordon Lightfoot was such a racist.

pplains, Saturday, 18 January 2014 18:43 (ten years ago) link

Don't talk shit about Gordon Lightfoot

frogbs, Saturday, 18 January 2014 18:46 (ten years ago) link

Maybe it's the earth's rotation that is the real racist.

how's life, Saturday, 18 January 2014 18:50 (ten years ago) link

"the watchman's gone" off sundown is all time

flopson, Saturday, 18 January 2014 18:52 (ten years ago) link

kkkopernican heliocentrism

balls, Saturday, 18 January 2014 18:52 (ten years ago) link

tell me about the word "yankee". if a person (white, southern) uses that a lot, is it generally a problem? i realise it's not quite a confederate belt buckle, but something about it.

caek, Saturday, 18 January 2014 19:24 (ten years ago) link

that whole damn album is amazing, christ

frogbs, Saturday, 18 January 2014 19:38 (ten years ago) link

come on y'all the word "sundown" is not the issue here it's "sundown town"

i hardly ever use the word "yankee" & i only use it in certain cases where i'm speaking for a particular point of view that is not necessarily my own. e.g.

I think most people from the deep south would think I talk like a yankee though

― Mmm yes hello (crüt), Monday, December 23, 2013 4:50 PM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

but thinking more deeply about the context of that word makes me not want to use it even in that context. the extent to which it's hideously offensive has only recently occurred to me tbh. :/

charitable remainder unitrust (crüt), Saturday, 18 January 2014 20:07 (ten years ago) link

Is it offensive? I've never taken it seriously.

Orson Wellies (in orbit), Saturday, 18 January 2014 20:38 (ten years ago) link

I think it carries as much baggage as the knee-jerk disdain for "southerners" or the broad generalizations about "the south" that you might hear in other parts of the country. It's not really used above the mason-dixon at all, unless you're referring to the baseball team.

It's especially a non-starter in the midwest/west as there's no real historical context. I might be a yankee to some in the southeastern US, but being called such has no real associations for me

mh, Saturday, 18 January 2014 21:46 (ten years ago) link

i will use the word yankee to refer to particular northeast attitudes, cultural phenomena -- i think it's as offensive as calling someone "whitey" imo

^ enlightening post (sarahell), Saturday, 18 January 2014 21:55 (ten years ago) link


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