Final Fantasy VII: Kind Of REDACTED In Retrospect

VI is the consensus pick for best FF, I thought

Yeah that's what I heard. Any reasons why that is? I know the opera scene is amazing and all but that's like one scene out of a long game.

I'll probably replay it, but my new roommate has FFVIII and I haven't played many post-16-bit RPGs so that might be fun. Not sure I'll replay VII for a bit, I now have a Gold Chocobo but still have to kill the Weapons and Sephiroth, and by the time that is done, I'll probably have spent as much time on this game as I did playing through Skyrim 2.5 times.

man I hate that I wrote this thread title

lol

ugh I hate that I titled this thread this

― Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Monday, March 9, 2009 8:53 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ha, opera scene probably my least favorite part of FF6!

It's just big, so much world, so many side quests, so many characters. Actually, probably too many on the last, but there's a strong core of 6-10 leads who are totally interesting IMO. Within the 16-bit palette you also get a real sense of a variety of environments and so on. I mean, I haven't seriously played it all the way through since I got it on emulator in the late 90s, so I don't know how completely this holds up. But I remember finding it broad and chewy. More to find and do than Chrono Trigger, though muddier-looking, and with some seriously flawed sections and certainly a less unique story.

Yeah that's what I heard. Any reasons why that is? I know the opera scene is amazing and all but that's like one scene out of a long game.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, November 1, 2013 8:50 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

best villain, arguably the best music, arguably the best easter eggs/hidden items.

man I hate that I wrote this thread title

then ask a mod to change it! i'd do it myself but my influence is not nearly so leveled up as yours

i've been playing ff6 lately actually. my first final fantasy. (i did almost beat super mario rpg: LEGEND OF THE SEVEN STARS as a kid tho.) some of the sprite art is really great; the characters are really emotive for how tiny and cramped they are. peanuts-esque use of space. i partic loved the part where you pick up the guy who just saw his entire city poisoned, and you flee through the forest and wind up on the train full of ghosts going to the underworld, and it feels cartoony and random and dumb until finally after you disembark the refugee sees all the people from his town, including his wife and kids, climbing numbly aboard the train, and chases after it as it pulls away, and ends up standing on the edge of the empty platform staring offscreen with his lil sprite head hung. i thought that was terrific. the opera scene i knew was coming so some of its impact was diluted but the wordless synthesized 16-bit singing kind of blew my mind.

idk if i can finish it tho. it just goes on and on.

yeah i was not a kid when i played that scene and got pretty emo about it

Didn't they re-release it recently?

Mario RPG. Man, I've NEVER played that. Always heard it was real good too!

SMRPG is fantastic & fun

But too easy. Still enjoyable.

My terrible shame is that I have NEVER beat FFVI!

^ i share in your shame! i was playing on an emu but w/o a controller and i couldn't do sabin's blitzes on the keyboard and i didnt want to kick him out of my party because i felt terrible abt it so i just quit altogether

pro-tip: you can do the blitzes very very slowly

press & hold left key
press & hold down key
release left key
press & hold right key
release down key
etc. etc.

fools, get a gamepad for your PC

on the emulated PSX version on VITA you can substitute either adjacent direction for diagonals and it still works, not sure if this was ever true of the other versions

Like, with the one where you have to do a hadouken d,df,f motion you can actually just press d, f, f OR d, d, f and it still comes out

I have also not finished FF6 despite starting it twice

the deathtrain bit is definitely weirdly powerful, poor little guy all jumping up and down with an exclamation mark over his head because his family got sent to the underworld

Any particular version of VI I should look for? I played the SNES III back in the day, but if there is a recent re-release with a better translation that would be ideal.

Yeah, I got an Afterglow Xbox 360 controller and it is USB and plugs right in and works with pretty much any game except some of the early GTA's where it WILL NOT map the analog sticks to the camera so it is pretty much impossible to play. Plus there is a button that turns your room into a gamma radiation isolation chamber (via lighting up insanely strong green LEDs).

the original VI translation is great! loaded for bear, even! (because the translator took strange liberties)

sad 4 all of you who never got to the heavy melodramas of the second half

Any particular version of VI I should look for?

GBA version has a better translation (although less quirky) but slightly worse music than the SNES. PS1 version crippled by load times iirc. There's iOS and Android versions coming "this winter".

then ask a mod to change it! i'd do it myself but my influence is not nearly so leveled up as yours

It's a stronger ask if someone else does it IMO

xp GBA will be slightly downgraded visually too because of the resolution. the music is so great, just go with emulated SNES. the speed up function will help you grind through battles too

Ok I'm going with the original SNES. Cos I bought it already anyways.

I beat VII. Kind of amazed at the ending. I guess the high-end CGI was pretty rad but really it was mostly end credits. I tried watching Advent Children and it was kinda cool (really amazing battle scenes animation) but too colorless and serious, really. I know VII was set in a post-apocalyptic wasteland (or, hell, I guess it was actually pre-apocalyptic?) but it still had lots of interesting places, colorful characters, etc. I guess magic levitating jesters and battle dolphins are just too goofy for SERIOUS CGI MOVIE.

I tried beating Emerald Weapon a few times. Had Knights of the Round, and two copies of Mime, and went and did that for a bit. Died multiple times. At this point yeah is this even fun anymore? Maybe this game's steely grip on my brain is over. 70 hours of play!

Gonna play VI now. I tried playing it yesterday but reorienting myself to 16-bit graphics is going to take some getting used to. The battle scenes are somewhat brutal without the spinning camera and character animations but whatevs.

i feel like someone must have a written a doctorate thesis on the themes of death, shintoism/environmentalism, identity, etc. in FFVII by this point. it really blew my mind back then, how trippy and dark it got by the end

ok, i'm playing FFVI right now. i am going to beat it. this time - IT'S PERSONAL

I will too! Maybe we should do a club

reopen ILGPC

"LOCKE: Thank you moogles! We're in your debt!"

truer words have never been spoken. forgot how much i loved this world

hahaha, we should!

Final Fantasy VII: Kind of Playable in Retrospect

whoa i didn't know that there was a ILGPC

can a mod move my new thread to ILGPC

nooo the replay was for FF VI (unless i'm being stupid)

Anybody try this? Not sure if I want to go through the bother of getting it to run.

http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/1657/

http://kotaku.com/the-steam-achievement-that-nobody-unlocked-1610073943

Wow - fascinating window into a subculture I'm glad I don't hang around. The comments section on this article alone reveals all kinds of really distorted priorities and concerns.

I'll read that.. when I eventually play through Hate Plus in 2017

wtf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyKnc7PlcQc

blowing my mind rn. kinda looks like CC HD

I don't care what anyone says I'm going to buy this and play the shit out of it at the expense of everything else in my life

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH3nZ1-D4_4

can't wait to see this in HD

man this looks actively bad and dumb

"actively bad and dumb" is the new ATB system

rank the ffvii minigames best to worst:

--golden saucer shooting
--snowboarding
--motorbike with no control over speed but you have a sword
--tower defense egg thing

hm, i feel like there's a couple i've missed

xp oh have they released details about how thats gonna work?

submarines. i kinda like the feel of the submarines.

snowboarding
gold saucer
fort condor tower defense
excavation
chocobo racing -- without the L+R cheat it's ridiculous
submarine -- interesting system but there's no challenge

excavation??

oh, wait, the where-to-dig thing in that one town. that ain't even a game.

Mog game ftw

Submarine game was incredible too. Way better than it needed to be

i'm sort of excluding anything that takes place with the standard set of interaction5s in the game's normal engine. lol that i forgot about chocobo racing though. I GUESS i would rank them worst-to-best

6. chocobo racing (one boring track, having to do it over and over, breeding just not v fun)
5. tower defense (fiddly and anti-fun, and one of the places the game's standard look really works against it. and the difficulty level didn't scale very interestingly.)
4. motorbike and swords (defending your convoy doesn't actually matter, impossible to lose really, wish you could accelerate. sort of feels nice though, you could start from here and end up with a sort of ok endless runner)
3. snowboarding (physics feel janky but man it's so 1997 it's amazing)
2. golden saucer light gun without light gun game (it's a nicely put together course, if only you actually had a gun)
1. submarine (no challenge but weirdly atmospheric (i just like submarines a lot), i like how it feels kind of like a fighter place sim underwater)