SKY FERREIRA

or is it more latter-day people like the raveonettes?

i love "everything is embarrassing" but i'm so glad it was a red herring

I'm liking the aesthetic here, I've never paid much attention before but it's like she's taking generic Austra-like gothy synthpop and slathering it with grunge surliness.

bubblegrunge, that was a thing right

The reference points being flung around make me very excited to hear this.

A friend on Facebook said Live Through This meets Erotica but surely it can't be THAT good.

rtc have you really not heard Celebrity Skin? It's like the year zero for a certain kind of sound that ends up with Ashlees and Paramores and what have you.

This isn't actually that much like any iteration of Hole though.

A friend on Facebook said Live Through This meets Erotica but surely it can't be THAT good

Of course not, that would make it the best record of all time.

aahhhhh which 90s grunge girl is she reminding me of? it's not QUITE courtney, there's more ennui than rip-your-throat-out rage. there's definitely someone though

― lex pretend, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 19:29 (35 minutes ago) Bookmark

omg.... wait... brainwave... is it shirley

Celebrity Skin is essential definitely.

xp "Red Lips" was a Shirley Manson co-write, so Sky may have carried over a little from their collaboration.

i was thinking shirley but i dunno not quiiiiiiite not quite, less steely and droidy

like this is is a pretty fuzzy album, not all sharp sheen like garbage

only heard the sleb skin singles iirc

tbh in this field i quite enjoy being otm on minimal expertise so i don't really wanna start rocking the boat doing proper research now

this sounds like every '90s album I've bought used and loved that never made it to spotify or reissues (this is about the highest compliment I can bestow)

Lex, without having heard it yet, your description sounds a bit like early Veruca Salt?

er, to clarify, this is about the highest compliment any album could possibly get from me, not "meh, that's as positive as I can get"

Did you know? I once owned albums from both Poe and Bif Naked.

veruca salt is too much ennui i think

idk lex, tender shirley not avenging angel shirley though? (and def tude not sound)

i've never heard veruca salt

i don't think this album is very tender either

oh oh oh remember the briefly-hyped EMA from a few years back? who was she ripping off? this is like that but really great

i remember EMA because she shows up in crosswords all the time. the best kind of immortality.

New album from her soon IIRC. She's still around!

I'm actually thinking she's hitting a register pretty much equidistant between Kim Deal and Kim Gordon.

oh ema. "california" was amazing but i ended up regretting buying that album.

this tho. i've listened a couple more times and am now pretty impressed. the sounds that caught me off-guard during my first listen now make perfect sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY3HuDsHyK8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seFS-kdVIgc

EMA also OTM. none of these comparisons are exact, though, there is something spot-on that I can't think of and it is bugging me and there is a 33% chance it was on the buffy soundtrack or something

K's Choice? Tracey Bonham?

maybe this goes w/o saying but the sky album is muuuuuuuuch poppier than EMA

i'm relistening to the raveonettes (yes i know) and i stand by that comparison btw

but i know the raveonettes and EMA were huge copyists but what were the originals??

this is not what you guys were thinking of obviously but this album reminded me of cat power

Pitchfork performance this year was one of the worst in recent memory.

tbf I don't know how her material would work live anyway.

to be fair it was on a side stage and only about 20% of her audience seemed to be there for her

Omanko sounds like it belongs in the middle of a holiday comp on Darla Records or something. strip the vocals and knock the production values down a couple notches and I could imagine several tracks on any number of 90's indie labels. so yeah, I'm half way through and this is my album of the year.

to me 'omanko' is like kim wilde via spacemen 3. 'kristine' kinda recalls jesus & mary chain. in both cases, partic the suicide vibes on them - check 'ain't your right' for that matter. 'boys' and 'nobody asked me...' are the more hole-ish imho.

^^ if on a rockist/indie centric ref map, i guess. not that it matters to me, tbh. don't remember EMA. pink, yeah.

also, i don't find it that dark.

I could imagine several tracks on any number of 90's indie labels. so yeah, I'm half way through and this is my album of the year.

― fffv, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 01:38 (5 hours ago) Bookmark

one for the sticker

There are some echoes of the past on this album, but it doesn't code as particularly 90s to my ears. If anything, it sounds expressly "2013." Maybe I just have a higher bar for artists/bands/songs to clear before they sound properly from another time, though.

Anyone else think the first three songs are by miles the weakest here? Just strangely plodding and... square. Like are you guys sure there's no Dev Hynes involvement in this record because those three tracks certainly have the songwriting flimsiness and primary school recorder lesson approach to rhythm that I associate with him, especially in the vocal lines.

Things pick up with the excellent Nobody Asked Me If I Was Okay though and it's way better from then on. There's something a bit 2006 about all this as well, those rockier synth bands who popped up post-Ladytron, post-electroclash, like The Sounds and people like that.

oh noes not the dev lurgies. idk those first three sound perfectly of a piece to me, surely occasional ploddingess is the very hallmark of sulky juvenilia? like even if his involvement were the case those are all looks he glommed off 90s ogs in the first place anyway so it's not an issue in this context really.

tbh without the groundwork laid down by those first three it's not even half the record imo, regardless of their individual quality

like even if his involvement were the case those are all looks he glommed off 90s ogs in the first place anyway so it's not an issue in this context really

Examples or it didn't happen. I think this particular kind of ploddingness is a distinctly post-2000 phenomenon really, there's a lot more fire in the even the most generic of the 90s acts we're discussing.

look at this narc shaking me down for deets. it's the vibes bro

first twinge of recognition for me was... JAMC. haha. crazy. ;)

...and that was before reading n's article! :o

A friend on Facebook said Live Through This meets Erotica but surely it can't be THAT good.

hang on .. is that referring to madonnas erotica, or the darling buds ?

given the references to jamc/ravonettes etc, i am hoping its the darling buds as i could really do with more of that kind of stuff.

Melody of "Boys" is very "Common People"

Anyone else think the first three songs are by miles the weakest here

"boys" is awesome imo, great chorus

Totally agree that the second half of this stronger, I actually think from Omanko onwards is just about perfect. The first five songs are good but seem throwaway compared to what comes later. Those first few songs in particular remind me of Ladyhawke (on her first album when she was almost great)

Serious album of the year contender for me already.

i really like every song on this now

https://twitter.com/ParisHilton/status/395752894890131457

The first five songs are good but seem throwaway compared to what comes later.

Really? But..."I Blame Myself"...