The Shining

Sequel is on the stands, there's an excerpt in the new issue of Cemetery Dance

On highways across America, a tribe of people called The True Knot travel in search of sustenance. They look harmless - mostly old, lots of polyester, and married to their RVs. But as Dan Torrance knows, and spunky twelve-year-old Abra Stone learns, The True Knot are quasi-immortal, living off the “steam” that children with the “shining” produce when they are slowly tortured to death.

oh brother

the true NOT morelike

spunky!

Just finished watching Room 237.

o_O

hmmm, someone among us went to a hotel

42 photos from the filming of The Shining:

http://imgur.com/a/Ur9Zo

^ nice one. Film critic Alexander Walker v. recognisable in the second picture of the twins.

Here you go, Morbs. Merry fucking Festivus.

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/david-cronenberg-says-stanley-kubrick-didnt-understand-horror-and-that-the-shining-is-not-a-great-film-20131104

well, it's not an election, hon. Hasn't at least one of SK's associates been quoted as saying the blockbuster success of The Exorcist was a factor in his search for a horror project after Barry Lyndon?

You're right. The Shining's status as a classic is no longer up for a vote.

lol

Amazing that a movie about an abusive husband who tries to kill his family with an axe has misogynistic tendencies.

boy that next cronenberg sounds like a winner

“In a weird way, although he’s revered as a high-level cinematic artist, I think he was much more commercial-minded and was looking for stuff that would click and that he could get financed," Cronenberg opined. "I think he was very obsessed with that, to an extent that I’m not. Or that Bergman or Fellini were.”

this is pretty self-serving (and ridiculous).

said it before but wendy near-singlehandedly saves her life and her son's life in this movie. the misogyny criticism seems to rest on the notion that she screams and cries too much while doing it. if only there was a word for the belief that a woman's emotions make her stupid and weak.

Masculinity iirc

yeah there's always been a sense in which those criticisms seem to fault Wendy for not turning into Linda Hamilton or something. like "i find this female character weak and annoying" therefore "this movie is misogynist." but she's totally heroic as dlh points out! just not in the action hero way.

i mean in reality like 99% of people in that situation, men or women, would find themselves weak-kneed and hysterical too. but she pulls through!

he's still capable of good stuff but Carpenter is right when he says Cronenberg's crawled up is his own ass a bit too much. (otoh Carpenter is clearly no longer capable of good stuff himself)

I would've co-signed that as of a year ago, but Cosmopolis took me by surprise. (Not that that movie offers any compelling evidence that Cronenberg is NOT up his own ass, obv, but that it's a more compelling form of self-parody than History of Violence or Eastern Promises.)

you've got to be just about the only person I've heard say they liked that movie. I haven't seen it (I'll probably get around to it at some point), but I liked his previous three well enough to varying degrees. I still laugh about Viggo's delivery of "that's a very Protestant remark".

If I got to have a 40-year directorial career, the first thing I would do is plan the expansion of my rectum so I could move in.

Cosmopolis and A Dangerous Method are DC's best 1-2 in awhile.

I don't partic find The Shining misogynist.

I'm only interested in subletting my rectum.

Cronenberg's crawled up is his own ass a bit too much.

I was about to say, sounds like a scene from one of his movies.

(if anyone makes a funnier movie about the Great Recession than Cosmopolis, lmk.)

Cosmopolis was pretty good i thought. it loses me every time in the last scene though.

I don't think The Shining is misogynist, either. Jack clearly doesn't have a particularly high opinion of women or Wendy, but he's very much the bad guy. And yeah, Wendy wins, even if she is a noodle arm with a bat.

Feels like the documentary that Vivian Kubrick shot abt the making of The Shining - where Kubrick really loses his temper w/ Shelly Duvall at one point - has bled into ppl's perception of the film, of Duvall being bullied and belittled

also: bros worshiping jack

agree
the movie itself never struck me as misogynist

also this is otm
said it before but wendy near-singlehandedly saves her life and her son's life in this movie. the misogyny criticism seems to rest on the notion that she screams and cries too much while doing it. if only there was a word for the belief that a woman's emotions make her stupid and weak.

also: bros worshiping jack

seemed like the poster of jack making the jack face through the hole in the doorway was second only to travis bickle practicing his aim when it came to dorm room movie posters (travolta and Sam Jackson in pulp fiction up there too.)

Scarface

Showed this to the girlfriend last night for the first time. Have we ever mentioned how all of Wendy Carlos' spooky music cues seemed to have been completely nicked by "Ghostbusters?"

Also, if you stream this from Amazon, you get the slightly extended version.

this movie is very cynical about fatherhood

said it before but wendy near-singlehandedly saves her life and her son's life in this movie. the misogyny criticism seems to rest on the notion that she screams and cries too much while doing it. if only there was a word for the belief that a woman's emotions make her stupid and weak.

i only just noticed for the first time that when jack is going insane, before he's actually homicidal, wendy has basically taken over all the major responsibilities for the hotel - she's working the boilers to make sure they don't all freeze to death during the storm.

isn't that like saying mommie dearest is cynical abt motherhood

Both movies are awesome at moviehood.

yes! it's notable that wendy does ALL the work in the hotel, including the work of parenting, but her work is never mentioned. jack's work - talked about so much in the movie, and the whole point of their being there - finally amounts to typing the same complaint about work over and over for pages. def intentional, def important.

i feel sorry for the assistant who actually had to type all those pages

http://www.thefoxisblack.com/2013/12/12/siri-bunford-takes-us-behind-the-scenes-of-stanley-kubricks-the-shining-in-this-clever-commercial/

Saw Room 237 the night before last - loved it. Went in kind of hoping for total crazies, came out glad that it wasn't actually like that at all (except for moon-landing hoax man). Just revelled in the micro-analysis and pattern-finding.

Also, this is great:

yes! it's notable that wendy does ALL the work in the hotel, including the work of parenting, but her work is never mentioned. jack's work - talked about so much in the movie, and the whole point of their being there - finally amounts to typing the same complaint about work over and over for pages. def intentional, def important.

― 1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:05 PM (4 weeks ago)

OK, the conspiracy guy's thing about the carpet pattern actually made my jaw drop. It proves nothing, but damn.

Otherwise, thought that the moon stuff was actually the weakest part of the film; would have liked either him or the movie to make some kind of link between such a conspiracy and what's going on in the film thematically. The rest of the participants made much stronger arguments for their cases (though the stuff about the genocide of Native Americans was nothing new--I thought this was a fairly common and popular reading of the film).

MOON ROOM

lool that was the funniest part for me

i'm still impressed by that woman's detailed map of the hotel

Anybody read the BFI bk on The Shining yet?

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/nov/15/shining-roger-luckhurst-review

I'm saving it for a snowy day.

http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/the-shining-twins-attend-kubrick-screening-in-london-121249287.html

aw!

pretty reprehensible to use a national enquirer article as yr sole source for where-is-shelley-duvall-now, not that i know where shelley duvall is now