Pearl Jam - C or D?

yeah, other than that they were basically trixter/warrant.

but like, talking about stardogs and shit.

Im quite disappointed with the new one

It's like the two most recent predecessors...a few great barnburners, maybe one good ballad, and totally disposable. I can't figure out if it's disappointing that they've settled into a comfort zone or if it's nice that they've earned the right to do that.

I prefer its predecessors but I've spun "Getaway" and "Sirens" a fuckton the last two weeks.

wtf at this sirens love

http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/wong/brainwash/siren.gif

oh who am i kidding sirens may well be great for people who's grown and evolved with pearl jam, i don't think i've heard a full-length since no code

"Sirens" sounded awful on first listen but has grown on me a lil in the context of both the album and hearing it on the radio. And I've mostly not thought much of downtempo tracks from their later albums.

^^^pretty much exactly how I felt/feel about it

sheesh! you guys aren't kidding! were a lot of you were in your early teens when they came out? that would explain a lot…

I suppose vedder is not a substandard singer, but his instincts as such are dreadful…and I would say that since his persona is being a guy with big thoughts and having noble motives as a public figure, that he seems dopey would be relevant.

the PJ doc is on VH1 classic now…Mother love bone part is on now, but this sounds like bog-standard late 80s alterna-metal…Wood looks and acts like the singer from Bulletboys…and Ament insists on playing fretless, and yet he never seems to figure out how to make it sound good…

oh no MLB are terrible

"Chloe Dancer" (or the first part of "Crown of Thorns" if you will) is pretty great, mostly just solo piano but yeah I can do without the hairmetal boogie though.

Green River are probably more notable than listenable, but their early recordings with Steve Turner on lead guitar are worth checking out if you've never heard them.

I love MLB

super glam, ridiculous lyrics, it's like a fun not taking ourselves serious version of The Cult who would have been way more fun if Astbury didnt act like She Sells Sanctuary is a ~meaningful song~

90% of the band was powered by the force of Wood's personality alone so if you don't like him or his steez then MLB collapses like Jenga. Like T. Rex. You have to buy in.

But anyway. This Is Shangrila! cmon.

hey Veronica what were the two deep cuts from The Long Run that you rode for?

I like everything on it a lot (cept for the last tune) but yeah I rilly rilly like what someone on ILM seven years ago called the dark heart of the Long Run, "king of hollywood" and "those shoes."

I like 'shoes" a lot.....didn't have the strength for the long run of that thread, tho....

If you have even the slightest inclination to see them on this tour, DO IT. Saw them last night in Oakland - no opener, they played for 3 and a half hours. 37 song setlist. Crazy good fun.

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The band is so tight now that Eddie can be 3 bottles of wine trashed and it's still a killer set. Everyone's smiling and having a cool time, such an awesome vibe these days.

I wish I had some extra cash, I'd hit a couple more dates :)

Gah, still pissed I'm not seeing them on this tour. I'm still IA about the Wrigley Field ticketing fiasco and them subsequently not coming here again this year.

My friend that came to the show last night is seeing them in Seattle and Vancouver as well...I'm normally a 'one show is enough nbd' person but ;_;

UK shows not announced yet as far as I know...

yeah I haven't seen anything else, just the Australia dates for big Day out in Jan

:)

Pearl Jam
Spokane Arena
Spokane, WA
2013-11-30

THE SHOW: This was the first time PJ had played in Spokane since June of 1993, and I think this will go down as one of the classic Pearl Jam shows. The venue was relatively small (12,000 seats) and this, along with a less-drunk-than-usual Ed Vedder resulted in more back-and-forth from the audience than your average show. This was highlighted by a crowd-initiated “protest” (as Eddie called it) to get Stone Gossard to sing. Vedder remarked that he asks Gossard if he wants to sing every night and he always says no. The frontman says that Stone “isn’t ready to slay that dragon but the gauntlet has been thrown.” Then, 5 songs into the first encore set, Stone steps up for “Don’t Gimme No Lip”, the first time played since 21 Nov 2006, and Stones only vocals on this tour.

More audience participation, and a bit of PJ history: Midway through the first set, Eddie noted a fan-held sign that said “Will cut hair for Brain of J” and checked out the sign-holder, who held up some serious dreads hanging down to his thighs. Eddie said “Alright, let’s keep that in mind”, and then, during the first encore, brings the guy up on stage, Jeff Ament finds an electric razor somewhere, and they let the guy headbang to “Brain” one final time with his crazy dreads before shaving him onstage to some improv jazzy haircut music.

haha i'd be disappointed if i was at a show and Eddie pressured Stone to sing and he did "Don't Gimme No Lip" instead of "Mankind"

I haven’t really paid much attention to PJ in years, but casually checking out this recent revive, I’m finding it hilarious that amongst serious Pearl Jam fans, Eddie is totally known as a drunk.

That is so amazing Maresnest. I'd love to see PJ live. The new album is okay I guess... So EV is a proper lush now is he?

i mean, who knows if he drinks like that on nights that he's not playing a show. but given how much they tour, that may be kind of an irrelevant distinction.

He didn't seem drunk when he toured here solo last year, but I think he's been working his way through a bottle of red every PJ show for a looooong ass time. I'm guessing it's not "a problem" per se. I mean, they're a Seattle band, if hypodermics aren't involved then it's a bonus.

red wine isn't proper alcohol anyway.

by my count in Oakland he went through at least 2, poss 3 bottles himself and handed out at 2 to share with the audience

back in the day when he and Beth broke up, there were some epic drunk shows, that was when it first started or at least that he was openly swigging from the bottle at the mike. for a while a bottle of wine was a signifier for 'you're in for a crazy show'.

he's a goob without the wine anyway so all the falling over and forgetting lyrics would probably still happen anyway <3

we were looking at the setlist for the Key Arena show on the weekend, they pulled out some great stuff for that show too

but Spokane sounds awesome. lol @ that dude getting his head shaved on stage

we were looking at the setlist for the Key Arena show on the weekend, they pulled out some great stuff for that show too

Yeah, Let Me Sleep!

right?! loved that they finally pulled that out for one of the holiday shows

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VLAGhOetAk

This is as much a guitar nerd post as a PJ post, but I was just going over "Born to Run" with my guitar teacher, and that song features the E/G# chord, which is basically the weirdest chord that doesn't sound weird. Maybe because it's a piano-type chord? Anyway, I've only come across it one other time (though I know it pops up here and there) in the tricky bridge to Huey Lewis's "Power of Love," but my guitar teacher recently played a benefit backing Eddie Vedder and noted the intro to "Better Man" (which I think he had to learn) is a bunch of variations of that E/G# chord. Now, Vedder isn't much of a guitarist, but he's solid enough, so our theory is that "Better Man" (which quickly gets really, really simple and repetitive) was written while or sometime after Vedder was trying to figure out "Born to Run." Like, it's a really, really conspicuously awkward chord, especially for beginners/me, so our theory is that he sat around making the chord shape, practicing it, moving it around, and that turned into "Better Man." Anyway, just a fun theory.

I feel like E/G# is somewhat common.

Based on the first sentence I thought this was going to be about how "Unemployable" sounds like "Born In The USA."

It's really not that common, though, not on guitar songs; "Born to Run" was I believe written on piano, which is where I think E/G# pops up more. So, like, Elton John and stuff.

It's just an inversion of a major chord, it's not weird at all. D/F# is basically the same and that pops up in lots of guitar songs.

Well, I find it weird! Or at least super awkward. And have only come across it in two songs. Well, three now: "Power of Love," "Born to Run" and "Better Man." Talking about this one:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-MJdjxDvQjJs/Uym9P9rothI/AAAAAAAAA7M/AlVD9gIqyik/s1600/E-G%23+Chord.png

It's not that weird in context of the song. It starts off on this version of D/F#:

https://jsmusicschool.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/df.png

And then he just shifts it up two frets on the next line to E/G#.

I'd say he strummed the first chord, thought it sounded good, moved his fingers up a bit and hey presto.

Try it as xx6454

The way I've shown is how Vedder actually plays it, though - with the G# on the low E.

Anyway, I still miss Jack Irons in Pearl Jam.

It hasn't been quite the same since he left.

hey spenno

Hey!

matt cameron's a great drummer though, and a pretty great songwriter too.

Oh, for sure; I miss Jack's contribution to the band's sound a lot but it's no knock on Matt. Evacuation and In the Moonlight are among my favourite late-period Pearl Jam songs.