Pearl Jam - C or D?

now that is a gauntlet thrown down! I am truly interested as to which 12 songs by PJ that Herr Sotosyn, a contributor of some note on this forum, are better than the cream of the Henley frey and co.

please enlighten me as I think anyone who believes that is truly fucked and must also be a "PJ is vaguely tethered to some nebulous notion of indie rock/ seattle realness that is intrinsically better than post-Laurel canyon navel-gazing" dead-ender. both paradigms are smug and self-satisfied.

put 'em up! which 12 PJ are better than the bloody corpus of the eagles!

also: does Vedder not seem kinda dumb?

just as I was writing this, my wife is watching the Portlandia bit where carrie brownstein can't deal with the prospective boyfriend who has an eddie V. tattoo…

Carrie brownstein: a great great comic actress who was in a truly shitty rock band that inexplicably many people thought was the savior of music in the 90s, etc etc…

ok now we're getting crazy wrong, A DISSUHDENT IS HEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH

I don't care whether Vedder is dumb -- that's biographical info. He's a good singer, often the best part of his band.

Faithfull
Wishlist
Sometimes
Worldwide Suicide
Unemployable
Yellow Moon
In My Tree
Given to Fly
Dissident
In Hiding
Last Kiss
The Fixer

There's twelve.

from my tree of smug self-satisfaction

when albini prank called evan dando and eddie vedder, it was vedder who figured it out.

i love a few of those, but for the most part that list is a pretty bizarre highlight reel imo. soto taste is a wild unpredictable beast as ever.

I avoided the first-three-albums-are-awesome line.

hey i love No Code and Yield, i'd just never single out "Faithfull" or "Sometimes"

Sometimes might make my top 20. I love it.

Also Veronica I can't fight you with words but let's meet in the parking lot & sort this out :)

hang on you call eddie vedder dumb and yet you're proud of a feature you titled 'pearl Sham'? WE ARE THRU THE LOOKING GLASS HERE PEOPLE

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how bout Mookie GAYlock

how about mother love BONE? wait, no. fuck. hmmm.

was that andy wood guy any good? seems. from my limited understanding, to be a guy who had his eye on Trixter or Warrant and then got into Jane's addiction or some shit…

iirc his idols were freddie mercury and david lee roth.

I personally don't have much time for MLB beyond Chloe Dancer/Crown Of Thorns tbh.

yeah, other than that they were basically trixter/warrant.

but like, talking about stardogs and shit.

Im quite disappointed with the new one

It's like the two most recent predecessors...a few great barnburners, maybe one good ballad, and totally disposable. I can't figure out if it's disappointing that they've settled into a comfort zone or if it's nice that they've earned the right to do that.

I prefer its predecessors but I've spun "Getaway" and "Sirens" a fuckton the last two weeks.

wtf at this sirens love

http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/wong/brainwash/siren.gif

oh who am i kidding sirens may well be great for people who's grown and evolved with pearl jam, i don't think i've heard a full-length since no code

"Sirens" sounded awful on first listen but has grown on me a lil in the context of both the album and hearing it on the radio. And I've mostly not thought much of downtempo tracks from their later albums.

^^^pretty much exactly how I felt/feel about it

sheesh! you guys aren't kidding! were a lot of you were in your early teens when they came out? that would explain a lot…

I suppose vedder is not a substandard singer, but his instincts as such are dreadful…and I would say that since his persona is being a guy with big thoughts and having noble motives as a public figure, that he seems dopey would be relevant.

the PJ doc is on VH1 classic now…Mother love bone part is on now, but this sounds like bog-standard late 80s alterna-metal…Wood looks and acts like the singer from Bulletboys…and Ament insists on playing fretless, and yet he never seems to figure out how to make it sound good…

oh no MLB are terrible

"Chloe Dancer" (or the first part of "Crown of Thorns" if you will) is pretty great, mostly just solo piano but yeah I can do without the hairmetal boogie though.

Green River are probably more notable than listenable, but their early recordings with Steve Turner on lead guitar are worth checking out if you've never heard them.

I love MLB

super glam, ridiculous lyrics, it's like a fun not taking ourselves serious version of The Cult who would have been way more fun if Astbury didnt act like She Sells Sanctuary is a ~meaningful song~

90% of the band was powered by the force of Wood's personality alone so if you don't like him or his steez then MLB collapses like Jenga. Like T. Rex. You have to buy in.

But anyway. This Is Shangrila! cmon.

hey Veronica what were the two deep cuts from The Long Run that you rode for?

I like everything on it a lot (cept for the last tune) but yeah I rilly rilly like what someone on ILM seven years ago called the dark heart of the Long Run, "king of hollywood" and "those shoes."

I like 'shoes" a lot.....didn't have the strength for the long run of that thread, tho....

If you have even the slightest inclination to see them on this tour, DO IT. Saw them last night in Oakland - no opener, they played for 3 and a half hours. 37 song setlist. Crazy good fun.

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The band is so tight now that Eddie can be 3 bottles of wine trashed and it's still a killer set. Everyone's smiling and having a cool time, such an awesome vibe these days.

I wish I had some extra cash, I'd hit a couple more dates :)

Gah, still pissed I'm not seeing them on this tour. I'm still IA about the Wrigley Field ticketing fiasco and them subsequently not coming here again this year.

My friend that came to the show last night is seeing them in Seattle and Vancouver as well...I'm normally a 'one show is enough nbd' person but ;_;

UK shows not announced yet as far as I know...

yeah I haven't seen anything else, just the Australia dates for big Day out in Jan

:)

Pearl Jam
Spokane Arena
Spokane, WA
2013-11-30

THE SHOW: This was the first time PJ had played in Spokane since June of 1993, and I think this will go down as one of the classic Pearl Jam shows. The venue was relatively small (12,000 seats) and this, along with a less-drunk-than-usual Ed Vedder resulted in more back-and-forth from the audience than your average show. This was highlighted by a crowd-initiated “protest” (as Eddie called it) to get Stone Gossard to sing. Vedder remarked that he asks Gossard if he wants to sing every night and he always says no. The frontman says that Stone “isn’t ready to slay that dragon but the gauntlet has been thrown.” Then, 5 songs into the first encore set, Stone steps up for “Don’t Gimme No Lip”, the first time played since 21 Nov 2006, and Stones only vocals on this tour.

More audience participation, and a bit of PJ history: Midway through the first set, Eddie noted a fan-held sign that said “Will cut hair for Brain of J” and checked out the sign-holder, who held up some serious dreads hanging down to his thighs. Eddie said “Alright, let’s keep that in mind”, and then, during the first encore, brings the guy up on stage, Jeff Ament finds an electric razor somewhere, and they let the guy headbang to “Brain” one final time with his crazy dreads before shaving him onstage to some improv jazzy haircut music.

haha i'd be disappointed if i was at a show and Eddie pressured Stone to sing and he did "Don't Gimme No Lip" instead of "Mankind"

I haven’t really paid much attention to PJ in years, but casually checking out this recent revive, I’m finding it hilarious that amongst serious Pearl Jam fans, Eddie is totally known as a drunk.

That is so amazing Maresnest. I'd love to see PJ live. The new album is okay I guess... So EV is a proper lush now is he?

i mean, who knows if he drinks like that on nights that he's not playing a show. but given how much they tour, that may be kind of an irrelevant distinction.

He didn't seem drunk when he toured here solo last year, but I think he's been working his way through a bottle of red every PJ show for a looooong ass time. I'm guessing it's not "a problem" per se. I mean, they're a Seattle band, if hypodermics aren't involved then it's a bonus.

red wine isn't proper alcohol anyway.

by my count in Oakland he went through at least 2, poss 3 bottles himself and handed out at 2 to share with the audience

back in the day when he and Beth broke up, there were some epic drunk shows, that was when it first started or at least that he was openly swigging from the bottle at the mike. for a while a bottle of wine was a signifier for 'you're in for a crazy show'.

he's a goob without the wine anyway so all the falling over and forgetting lyrics would probably still happen anyway <3

we were looking at the setlist for the Key Arena show on the weekend, they pulled out some great stuff for that show too

but Spokane sounds awesome. lol @ that dude getting his head shaved on stage

we were looking at the setlist for the Key Arena show on the weekend, they pulled out some great stuff for that show too

Yeah, Let Me Sleep!