The Counselor = Cormac McCarthy + Ridley Scott + (Fassbender + Pitt + Cruz + Bardem et al)

Always amusing to me when serious novelists finally dip their toes into films and realize, jeebus, there's a lot more money for a lot less work! See: Richard Russo, Michael Chabon ...

xpost Agree on Blood Meridian. Fuck a film adaptation, that book is a marathon of literary violence.

Pah. I haven't seen The Counselor, but I'll take any opportunity to try to puncture NCFOM's balloon.

http://i.imgur.com/gowD7A0.gif

Agree on Blood Meridian. Fuck a film adaptation, that book is a marathon of literary violence.

yeah he'll never top it

good god such a great book

ncfom is such a good book. God damn what a classic.

lol: http://www.miami.com/039the-counselor039-r-article

Every movie's like, cheetahs on a gold leash.

DICKDICKDICKTORINO

HEY WRONG THREAD

critical roundup of alleged thread topic

http://www.fandor.com/blog/daily-ridley-scotts-the-counselor

i was kinda trepidatious going in but i really dug this! if someone had told me in advance that there was a scene-stealing john leguizamo cameo, i wouldn't have been worried. it's very mccarthy, so much so that im not sure ridley knew what to do with it at times. but it's good.

i guess the "insanely verbose" dialogue doesn't annoy as much if you accept that all the characters (cept those drips Fassy and Cruz) all sound like CM, the way Woody Allen characters sound like him.

also ppl couldn't follow the plot, wtf?

ncfom is flawless and p much without a view on morality imo

$8 million weekend, even worse than expected

Even with Brad Pitt, does the multiplex crowd really want to see a movie that gives the impression of being another No Country For Old Men?

now with pretty movie stars dying horribly

on my way out this really country white chick was saying to her bf "... i wouldnt have even wanted to see it if brad pitt wasnt in it!"

A friend/colleague just told me that its more fun to analyze than it is to watch.

Andrew O'Hehir, not at all prone to hyperbole

http://www.salon.com/2013/10/26/meet_the_worst_movie_ever_made/

(you shdn't read that if u intend to see. also he just gets some of the narrative WRONG i bleeve)

Heh. The same friend I was just talking to referenced that review.

so this is basically breaking bad except with the actual human beings replaced with blinged-out thriller caricatures?

i cant tell if your asking b/c uve seen it or bc u havent

i've seen the trailer

that may be enough

I liked the sort of stillboen quality it had

Don't get me wrong, it will not be in my top 40 films of this year

I shouldn't have been STOKED

A solid B. but yeah: almost more fun to think about than watch.

Reviewing tonight, will post when it runs.

the cheetahs look cool, might see it just for the cheetahs

On my way to a 9:50 show.

Loved it, basically.

"Redemption" is the most overused word and concept in Hollywood today, and here's a story with no opportunity for it. Plus, the movie is all consequences to decisions that we barely see--we're just seeing the aftermath.

Would be very interested in hearing how the movie goes over in the Southwest and in Mexico.

Also found the most moving scene (vague here, not spoiling) was a moment late in the movie when he's most alone and most in danger and discovers that he's actually not alone and has something in common with a huge chunk of society, at least south of the border.

"Don't even think i'm making this up. You can't make this up," Bardem's character says about the car-fucking, but the same thing holds true time and time again in the stories in the 'drugs, murder, and mexico' thread.

This review basically spoils everything but makes the case for it being better than 12 Years A Slave as stories of unstoppable cruelty.

oh hey I just figured out what was on that DVD

lol

what'd you think he was crying about? Bunheads being cancelled?

some telenovela called HOLA!

coulda just been some movie they watched together y'know

besides "oh hey this must be what brad Pitt told me about bcz sledgehammer foreshadowing #2"

http://splicetoday.com/moving-pictures/witness-a-reptilian-cameron-diaz-more-cheetah-than-cougar

The Counselor vs Clair Denis' Bastards

http://www.fandor.com/blog/the-film-in-the-shadows-ridley-scott-vs-claire-denis

http://www.film.com/movies/the-cult-of-the-counselor

Is the film worth it? “The Counselor” is a didactic movie about how a) women are predatory whores (Cameron Diaz is tattooed with cheetah spots to drive the point home) b) a man defines his character by being appropriately stoic about death. It’s an idiotic exercise in some respects, but a rare opportunity to watch talented performers (Diaz aside) figure out the rhythms of non-naturalistic dialogue that’s quite fascinating when you ignore its offensiveness; it’s not quite “Cosmopolis” or Harold Pinter, but the exercise is in the same ballpark. Novelty filmmaking perhaps — another 20 movies like this simply wouldn’t do — but the multiplex is better for it, and it’s proof our internet Red Alert mechanisms are working faster than ever.

"Women are predatory whores" vs. "Cameron Diaz's character is an aggressive predator."

I think it's essentially being pulled from theaters after today btw.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/07/fashion/in-the-counselor-fashions-and-furnishings-play-a-pivotal-aesthetic-role.html?src=me

Oh man this movie

Definitely "worth seeing"

I liked it,kinda

pretty much my feelings.

i look forward to seeing it again actually. something tells me it'll play well on cable.

it really reminded me of Cosmopolis--particularly in that it seemed to revolve around a series of rather abstract conversations. intriguing.

Ha that was almost a haiku

Self xpost

But yeah, ryan otm