WE'RE SENDING OUR LOVE DOWN THE WELL: The Simpsons Season 3 Poll

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what's the significance with canseco?

yknow no doubt the show got pretty crazy and unrealistic, but I wonder if there's any single non-Treehouse of Horror moment in the series that's been crazier and less realistic than Ozzie Smith falling into another dimension?

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 02:52 (ten years ago) link

Kneejerk vote for 'Stark Raving Dad'.

franny glass, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 02:57 (ten years ago) link

RLY?

i say that unfairly cuz whenever i watch it i remember it has a lot of funny moments, but the second half has a sitcommy corniness that i think is even worse than any in season 1.

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 02:59 (ten years ago) link

actually the canseco thing is apparently different than i thought acc to that deadspin piece, i thought it was jose himself who demanded the episode present him in a better light. but canseco is a horrible person, even back then, so i always heard that the burning house was the writers being extremely sardonic about it

^^ post obviously honoring and supporting Qualcomm (zachlyon), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 03:02 (ten years ago) link

uh "lisa it's your birthday" is the best

^^ post obviously honoring and supporting Qualcomm (zachlyon), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 03:02 (ten years ago) link

gr8 song, gr8 moment

^^ post obviously honoring and supporting Qualcomm (zachlyon), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 03:02 (ten years ago) link

Yeah it's corny. Love it regardless.

franny glass, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 03:05 (ten years ago) link

Ugh I hate that song, but I love singing it to anyone whos birthday it is to annoy them (along with "youre the birthday boy or girl", natch)

Damn this ones going to be impossible.I think I'm gonna have to go for TOH. Frogurt! Bart mind controlling everyone!

taxi tomato or bag tomato (Trayce), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 03:07 (ten years ago) link

maybe under my fluffy exterior i am a harsh and cold cynic. :'(. the 'you're the birthday boy or girl' song, on the other hand, i can appreciate.

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 03:12 (ten years ago) link

Wow, guess I gotta rewatch that baseball one - haven't seen it since it first aired, remember it as a bunch of baseball jokes I didn't get.

But indeed, this is where this gets impossible. First shortlist:

When Flanders Failed: "Bart, stop using the Touch of Death on your sister."
Bart the Murderer: "What have I done to deserve this flat, flavorless Manhattan?"
Burns Verkaufen der Kraftwerk: "Zat vas ten minutes ago!"
Dog of Death: "If that were a real Girl Scout, I'd've been bothered by now!"

Definitely think I need to rewatch "Lisa the Greek," "Saturdays of Thunder," "Radio Bart," "Homer Alone," "Bart the Lover"...lots of 'em really.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 03:13 (ten years ago) link

if you don't laugh when you look at this screenshot then u r a monster:

http://www.rockethideout.com/articles/images/cadbury/cadbury3.png

Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 03:18 (ten years ago) link

Bart The Lover has some of the most amazing stuff ever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESqrbf6HX7c

piscesx, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 03:22 (ten years ago) link

o i thought bart the lover was the one with lovejoy's daughter, but that's bart's girlfriend. both gr8.

^^ post obviously honoring and supporting Qualcomm (zachlyon), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 03:24 (ten years ago) link

OMG "five dollarsshss.. geddoudda here" BEST, use that one a lot.

taxi tomato or bag tomato (Trayce), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 03:29 (ten years ago) link

And Lisa should be this bitchy more often:

Ms.H: Lisa, what nineteenth-century figure was named `Old Hickory'?
Lisa: I don't know. You? [snickers from the class]
Ms.H: Lisa, if you'd bothered to do the assignment, you'd know the
answer is... [flips to answer key] The Battle of New Orleans.
I mean... Andrew Jackson.
Lisa: Well, you're earning <your> eighteen grand a year. [more snickers]

taxi tomato or bag tomato (Trayce), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 03:29 (ten years ago) link

Nigel Tufnel twisting his hair in "The Otto Show."

Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 03:39 (ten years ago) link

The one ep in this season that leaves me unmoved is Homer Alone. It doesnt rly go anywhere interesting.

taxi tomato or bag tomato (Trayce), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 03:41 (ten years ago) link

Vibrating Homertazoa.
Homer scratching his nuts in the dugout.
Skinner dribbling the basketball.

xpost :O

Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 03:43 (ten years ago) link

Well it doesnt! Marge freaks out, goes to rancho relaxo, maggie goes missing. Maybe it did something else ive forgotten but eh.

Now "black widower" on the other hand.
Sideshow Bob: [rubbing Selma's feet] [quietly] Soon I will kill you...
Selma: What?
Sideshow Bob: Son pied sent il beau.
French for ``Her foot smells lovely.''

taxi tomato or bag tomato (Trayce), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 03:45 (ten years ago) link

Though tbh I ALWAYS confuse "Homer Alone" with "Marge in Chains."

Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 03:45 (ten years ago) link

Actually not a fan of Bouvier episodes! Except maybe the one with Jub Jub.

Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 03:47 (ten years ago) link

''Homer Alone'' has their second-greatest hold music gag with ''Baby Come Back''...

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 03:56 (ten years ago) link

ha yeah and the best being the "everybody loves a clown" bit from one of the Treehouse Of Horrors?

Marge in Homer Alone = HOTT

http://www.wtsof.tv/images/i58_206517.jpg

piscesx, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 04:00 (ten years ago) link

Yeah, her ordering a bottle of tequila from room service to go with her hot fudge sundae is A+

midnight outdoor nude frolic up north goes south (Eric H.), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 04:03 (ten years ago) link

I love the Bouvier subplot in Homer Alone. Tongue sandwiches, the blackhead gun... it's a brilliant use of contrast against the Marge scenes.

lazulum, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 04:08 (ten years ago) link

LOL yes the "everybody loves a clown, so why dont you?" kills me every damn time.

taxi tomato or bag tomato (Trayce), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 04:09 (ten years ago) link

tbh 'black widower' lingers a bit too long on the idea of bob and selma actually having sex -- erg!!

love the MJ birthday song but i'm a sucker for moments between bart and lisa -- also always tear up at the end of 'lisa on ice.'

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 06:08 (ten years ago) link

"Homer at the Bat" by a country fucking mile

chimped the keeper (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 06:10 (ten years ago) link

'bart the lover' has this incredible line from flanders, which i can't believe they got away with on network tv in the early '90s:

'homer, i have a bone to pick with you...i know all of us pull a few boners now and then, go off half-cocked, make asses of ourselves, i don't want to be hard on you...'

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 06:16 (ten years ago) link

It was rare they did stuff that made me raise an eyebrow but Apu's "I salute you, you magnificent bastard!" was def one of those times.

Oh and stupid sexy flanders and his ASS *shudder*

taxi tomato or bag tomato (Trayce), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 06:25 (ten years ago) link

Flaming Moe, mostly because of the Cheers lampoon in the middle, mostly because Cheers is the only show I love more than The Simpsons.

Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 07:33 (ten years ago) link

Yes thats one of my picks for that reason. And also that it shows up Moe as the asshole he really is - why is Homer even friends with him, with all the times Moe's stolen his ideas/taken advantage of him!?

....which reminds me, whichever season the "moe and his girlfriend" ep is from, that one's getting my vote for "stealing, stealing, stealing a car for Moe ,du du du dunn duh duuuuhh duuuh, insurance fraud today!"

taxi tomato or bag tomato (Trayce), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 07:56 (ten years ago) link

"lisa its your birthday" is legit one of the most emotionally effecting pieces of music I've eve heard.

the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 09:33 (ten years ago) link

Got my choice narrowed down to Flaming Moe's ("HELLOOOOOOO ST LOUIS!") or Burns Verkaufen der Kraftwerk ("ve Germans aren't all smiles und sunshine").

The Miracle of the Jimmy Smits (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 10:08 (ten years ago) link

Oh, alright, and Bart The Murder ("TV's Doogie Howser, Neil Patrick Harris as Bart Simpson").

The Miracle of the Jimmy Smits (King Boy Pato), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 10:09 (ten years ago) link

I made a game of it - seeing how many times I could bounce it in an hour, and then trying to beat that record.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 11:19 (ten years ago) link

I always forget The Otto Show is season 3 (same wort Separate Vocations), which is to say I always think it's 4 because it's just so matured as an episode. Like, what a perfect episode.

Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 11:26 (ten years ago) link

Wort? I mean with

Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 11:26 (ten years ago) link

narrowed it down to these five:

bart the murderer
homer at the bat
bart the lover
burns verkaufen der kraftwerk
flaming moe's

乒乓, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 11:28 (ten years ago) link

ugh, forgot about teh leftorium!!

乒乓, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 11:29 (ten years ago) link

Bart: Uh, say, are you guys crooks?
Tony: Bart, um, is it wrong to steal a loaf of bread to feed your starving
family?
Bart: No.
Tony: Well, suppose you got a large starving family. Is it wrong to steal
a truckload of bread to feed them?
Bart: Uh uh.
Tony: And, what if your family don't like bread? They like... cigarettes?
Bart: I guess that's okay.
Tony: Now, what if instead of giving them away, you sold them at a price
that was practically giving them away. Would that be a crime, Bart?
Bart: Hell, no!
Tony: Enjoy your gift.

乒乓, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 11:32 (ten years ago) link

I made a game of it - seeing how many times I could bounce it in an hour, and then trying to beat that record.

― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, October 22, 2013 7:19 AM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

really great because it references this line earlier:

Bart: You're making me lick envelopes?
P.S.: Oh, licking envelopes can be fun! All you have to do is make a game
of it.
Bart: What kind of game?
P.S.: Well, for example, you could see how many you could lick in an hour,
then try to break that record.
Bart: Sounds like a pretty crappy game to me.
P.S.: Yes, well... Get started.

乒乓, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 11:33 (ten years ago) link

okay, bart the murderer it is.

乒乓, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 11:35 (ten years ago) link

this whole dream sequence was brilliant
http://www.springfieldfiles.com/albums/signs/0300.JPG

gyac, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 11:41 (ten years ago) link

Wort? I mean with

― Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Tuesday, October 22, 2013 7:26 AM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

My son's name is also Wort.

My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 12:00 (ten years ago) link

I voted for Stark Raving Dad completely unironically, and actually I think it might be my favorite episode ever. It's just structured so great, everything builds from inside the family. Bart puts his red cap in the laundry, Homer doesn't want to do fill out his questions, Lisa's birthday is coming up, and all of a sudden the episode simply explodes. But what I really love about it is the darkness in it, the glimpses of Lisa singing to herself (Happy birthday, overlooked middle child) and obviously her incredible poem (I hat a cat named Snowball / he died, he died / mom said he was sleeping / she lied! she lied!) But also the darkness of what happens at the mental institution. And also, when it turns corny - and boy, does it turn corny - it only helps the episode, because it never undercuts the darkness of the earlier scenes. The song is still written by an insane person, and their final explanation of his behaviour only makes him more insane.

All in all, I love this episode, and I've obviously spent way too much time thinking about it. It just hits a sweet spot between cynicism and corniness, which I fall for every time. I would put money on the episode having suffered from the association with Michael Jackson, but it's really a marvel all the way through.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 12:26 (ten years ago) link

Oh god, I forgot Lisa's poem! Ugh, yeah, gotta rewatch that one. I do think the Jackson connection put me off, even originally, as I didn't really know his music and was just bothered that the Simpsons was getting derailed by this weird cameo for a big celebrity.

Best bit of the ''made a game of it'' is how Skinner gives Bart a knowing look, as if this is a little inside joke they share.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 12:35 (ten years ago) link

I was always partial to Bart's Allan Sherman-esque first pass at Lisa's birthday song:

Lisa, her teeth are big and green.
Lisa, she smells like gasoline.
Lisa, da da da Disa.
She is my sister, her birthday, I missed-a.

Also:

- The One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest group therapy session where Homer can't stop mocking the agoraphobe.
- "You mean there really is a Bart? Good lord!"
- The asylum hold music being Patsy Cline's "Crazy."
- This argument:

Marge: I told you kids you were going to send your father to the crazy house!
Bart: No, Mom, you said poor house.
Marge: I said crazy house.
Bart: Poor house.
Marge: Crazy house.
Bart: Poor house.
Marge: Crazy house!

My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 12:42 (ten years ago) link

Oh, and "Careful, men, he wets his pants!"

My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 12:43 (ten years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 1 November 2013 00:01 (ten years ago) link

And yeah SNPP is still the only place that has the entire scripts.

Wait, actual scripts, or just transcripts? And they don't have every line of dialogue, I thought?

Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Friday, 1 November 2013 00:01 (ten years ago) link

Five votes for Stark Raving Dad! I'm happy. Burns Verkaufen der Kraftwerk is the surprise for me, but yeah, it's a really good episode.

Frederik B, Friday, 1 November 2013 00:03 (ten years ago) link

we need more voters so we don't get all of those sad zeroes :'(.

i often think treehouse of horror ii is the best one.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 1 November 2013 00:51 (ten years ago) link

The Otto Show, Colonel Homer, Mr Lisa Goes to Washington, Homer Alone and I Married Marge are all A+ episodes in spite of receiving no votes.

a fifth of misty beethoven (cryptosicko), Friday, 1 November 2013 00:53 (ten years ago) link

Otto Show has some interesting DVD commentary; apparently, one of the Spinal Tap actors was a dick. One of the writers on the commentary said, "We can't name names, but he was one of the GUEST voices."

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 1 November 2013 00:59 (ten years ago) link

So that's either McKean or Christopher Guest.

Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Friday, 1 November 2013 01:01 (ten years ago) link

iirc they also note that aside from the dickish one one of the other spinal tap actors was very mcKEEN to please. and the other was harry shearer. (they weren't subtle about it.)

Merdeyeux, Friday, 1 November 2013 01:03 (ten years ago) link

Wait, I could swear I voted for TOH in this poll so either I forgot, or... gah.

taxi tomato or bag tomato (Trayce), Friday, 1 November 2013 01:03 (ten years ago) link

xp similar to the homer at the bat commentary where they say that all the guest stars were very nice apart from the one whose name rhymes with 'blo-se blanseco', or something like that.

Merdeyeux, Friday, 1 November 2013 01:04 (ten years ago) link

iirc they also note that aside from the dickish one one of the other spinal tap actors was very mcKEEN to please. and the other was harry shearer. (they weren't subtle about it.)

Could you dumb it down a little? (Sorry, that belongs to the season 4 poll.)

Matt Groening's Cousin (Leee), Friday, 1 November 2013 01:04 (ten years ago) link

I agree with Homer at Bat and Burns Verkaufen leading this poll, but 0 votes for The Otto Show makes me ;_;

Fiddler on a hot tin roof (ed.b), Friday, 1 November 2013 03:07 (ten years ago) link

Couldn't vote, paralyzed by goodness all around.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 1 November 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link

So I saw on another forum that Fox won't be showing "Bart The Lover" tonight as an announced Marcia Wallace tribute after all, because they couldn't find a master that was "HD enough" or something, so they're showing a newer one about Krabappel & Flanders instead.

A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 3 November 2013 19:47 (ten years ago) link

D:

Merdeyeux, Sunday, 3 November 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link

uuuugh

the HDness would be enough to drive me away from new simpsons even if it didn't suck.

^^ post obviously honoring and supporting Qualcomm (zachlyon), Sunday, 3 November 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link

ffs

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 3 November 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link

(at Fox, not Zachylon, obv)

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 3 November 2013 21:26 (ten years ago) link

Do youuu come with the car?

Øystein, Sunday, 3 November 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link

well shit, that was meant for the s4 thread. O well.

Øystein, Sunday, 3 November 2013 21:34 (ten years ago) link

oh, you! tee hee

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link


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