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La Lechera do you have a report or any thoughts on your new vinyl? I saw them yesterday for sale at Wall Of Sound in Seattle and was super tempted, but $30 is just a bit steep.

money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Friday, 18 October 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link

I do! I am not interested in dominating the thread with my personal opinions about objects, but these are some very special objects. I have been enjoying them IMMENSELY! I don't really care about the poster or the essays (there is the same set of info inside each record + a little poster) and I think it's something I've read before anyway, but I can imagine people who weren't that familiar with the Vuh getting more out of that stuff.

I've only had PV on mp3 or CD and these records definitely sound great. I'm also enjoying the ritual of flipping them over and realizing the genius of the sequencing (which really is not the same on CD/mp3). Surprise hit (cymbal crash) has been Einsjager & Siebenjager, but Pharaos sounds way way way more amazing than I remember it (I don't listen to that one as much). They're all obvs great albums.

Overall, since I bought them with birthday money and they are a special band for me, I would say the purchase was worth it. If there is an album you feel extra strongly for, I would definitely recommend buying. You will feel a brief surge of remorse (I did) that will melt as soon as you drop the needle.

sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 18 October 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link

actually no, i had 2 PV records prior to the reissues

also i haven't listened to the bonus djong yun 7" yet

sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 18 October 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link

thank you!

money, chicken and other DNA (sleeve), Friday, 18 October 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link

no mention of it here yet, but mount eerie covered "engel der luft" from fitzcarraldo on his/their last album and it's incredible:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufs3Wpg2-Y0

clouds, Friday, 1 November 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link

whoa that's intense!
but also uh oh -- i better hurry up!!

sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link

LL I bought Affenstunde and In Den Garten Pharoahs based on yr recommendations and I love them! So thank you. Those Spanish LP reissues are really hard to find in the US.

sleeve, Friday, 1 November 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link

always glad to be of service!

i'm right about the essay inside, right? i'm pretty sure that i've read that before but i can't find it -- i think there was a scan of a magazine or something? it seemed like a lot of familiar info to me and my memory is not spectacular, so maybe it's just the same info recycled in a different format?

sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link

Seriously, though, where can one buy these in the States? Been looking everywhere. No distros, no shops, and not even any US-based online sellers that I've been able to find.

winnebago taco, Sunday, 3 November 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link

i don't know that you can unless your local store ordered them from wah wah. if you're serious about buying them, i would recommend buying them from norman records in the UK. they were great and a human answered my emails!

sweat pea (La Lechera), Sunday, 3 November 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link

Noted. It's just, you know...shipping. Brutal.

winnebago taco, Sunday, 3 November 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link

Oh, I know! But if you want to receive the records, you have to pay to have someone carry them across the ocean.

sweat pea (La Lechera), Sunday, 3 November 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link

I just feel like some joint getting wholesale prices (as such) would be selling these for like 35 USD as opposed to 45 USD. I shouldn't really be allowing myself to afford either of those prices, so $10 goes a pretty long way. Of course, that would-be store doesn't seem to exist, so here we are. Thanks for the advice, re: Norman Gonna feel so guilty, but it's gonna feel so good finally to hear the b-side of that Yun single after all these fucking years. I've never once found a copy!

winnebago taco, Sunday, 3 November 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link

Yeah it's gonna sting, but unless you enjoy making phone calls that lead nowhere and general disappointment, ordering from a source that you 100% know will deliver is better. Esp if you have been waiting that long! Geez.

sweat pea (La Lechera), Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:38 (ten years ago) link

as far as Hosianna Mantra goes, there isn't even a copy on Discogs. just get it from Norman, it'll be gone son.

sleeve, Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:41 (ten years ago) link

SOON

sleeve, Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:41 (ten years ago) link

ha, you got all sassy for a second there

sweat pea (La Lechera), Sunday, 3 November 2013 23:48 (ten years ago) link

Ha. There were several copies on Discogs, last week. The cheapest one, of course, didn't include the 7".

winnebago taco, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 14:58 (ten years ago) link

np: my first ever hearing of Seligpreisung (the Fichelscher interview reminded me I didn't have it)

Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link

I really want that one.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link

It's just the digital DL from emusic, not the vinyl, to be clear. Did not expect the singing!

Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 22:03 (ten years ago) link

it's the only one where florian sings! i think it's a nice change of pace. total cymbal mania too iirc.

sweat pea (La Lechera), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link

The spv bonus track is, of course, another arrangement of florians Agnus Dei melody aka kaspar hauser ditty. I feel every reissue has one!

Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link

cantare cantare cantare plod plod plod plod.

sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link

Speaking of Florian's Agnus Dei tune, I want to mention "Gutes Land" off 1jaeger & 7jaeger-- after they play the Agnus Dei for a few bars, there's the stirring piano chord + cymbal crashes and then everyone makes as if to take flight but the strangest thing happens-- three different Fichelschers (hard right at low volume, center at normal volume, hard left at normal volume) stammer awkwardly for several bars, completely failing to come up with anything eloquent to say, and THEN things take off. It's always struck me as the strangest passage; it doesn't seem deliberate, more like a bad improv moment, and yet Danny overdubbed himself twice in the same awkward manner so...?

Also, I think we can all agree 1jaeger is the most hi-fi of the classic PV records, no?

Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link

man I need to get decent CD reissues of the rest of the first 10 records or so (I have the first two on vinyl now), any ideas as to which ones I should seek out? I note upthread that dodgy vinyl-ripped Italian CDs were mentioned, don't want those.

sleeve, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link

I prefer the Spalax CDs to the SPV reissues in some cases, very strongly so with Letzte Tage, somewhat so with Herz aus Glas. I haven't heard the SPV Einsjaeger to compare but the Spalax sounds fantastic. SPV Bruder des Schattens sounds great, so does SPV Hohelied. SPV Nosferatu sounds a little distorted to me but I only have a few tracks of the spalax to compare. SPV Sei Still... sounds okay to me, haven't heard the Spalax but I don't think that is a very well recorded album to begin with, so. I remember the celestial harmonies CD of the Pharaohs sounding good.

Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link

einsjäger is my fave pv

i heard das hoheleid salamos for the first time yesterday — so gorgeous

clouds, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link

thanx Jon! xp

sleeve, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link

The SPV Pharaohs is a little distorted, too. The Einsjaeger sounds good, as I recall, but I haven't really put it on in a while. As for Letzte Tage, Letzte Naechte, I've never heard a release that didn't kinda sound like shit; still the "Haram Dei Ra" SPV bonus track with Florian singing was worth the price of admission, for me.

winnebago taco, Sunday, 10 November 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link

Speaking of Florian's Agnus Dei tune, I want to mention "Gutes Land" off 1jaeger & 7jaeger-- after they play the Agnus Dei for a few bars, there's the stirring piano chord + cymbal crashes and then everyone makes as if to take flight but the strangest thing happens-- three different Fichelschers (hard right at low volume, center at normal volume, hard left at normal volume) stammer awkwardly for several bars, completely failing to come up with anything eloquent to say, and THEN things take off.

i relistened to that part with this comment in mind and i think he's trying to create a windup type feeling? like
this isn't it
this isn't it

BOOM CRASH
this is it

but i dunno. i love that part!

sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 11 November 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link

also the LT-LN Spalax cd that i have sounds ok to me but it's also the only one i've heard
if that ever gets reissued i'm going to go crazy and buy three

sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 11 November 2013 22:46 (ten years ago) link

It is truly strange and challenging to me to contextualize.

IDK like a lot of Vuh this record is about searching and questing and this passage perhaps evokes the stumbling that takes place along the way...

Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Monday, 11 November 2013 22:51 (ten years ago) link

xpost

Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Monday, 11 November 2013 22:51 (ten years ago) link

The Aguire soundtrack is really amazing. I just love how it sounds. I got a feeling its going to become one of my favorite ambient records, it just has a great tone.

earlnash, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 02:56 (ten years ago) link

IDK like a lot of Vuh this record is about searching and questing and this passage perhaps evokes the stumbling that takes place along the way...

More likely the result of trying to record a rock song with two people, one on piano and one on drums, not your usual method by any means. There are a few tracks where the piano and drums go slightly out of time or, for instance, the end of "Letzte Tage", where there's a drum fill that's out of synch...

Thomas K Amphong (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 09:25 (ten years ago) link

^^^tom d you have been neglecting your breathing exercises haven't you >:[

Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link

So after her career with Popol Vuh, Djong Yun seems to have ended up in North Korea, or at least she was there eight years ago. (Brief thread on her father Isang Yun here.) Has she ever been interviewed about her life? I'm really curious – starting with how someone who could sing like that could just stop.

with hidden noise, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link

Been a huge PV fan for years but only just discovered the Gila connection this week. Mind-boggling.

Call the Cops, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link

Wow. I knew none of those things, re: Yun. Thanks for posting that interview.

winnebago taco, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link

her father is isang yun? whoa!

clouds, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 14:31 (ten years ago) link

wow, that's intriguing
i wonder what she does all day?! she lives in pyongyang?!

sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 20 November 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link

Reissues are in at Fuestron, btw. Or they were, a few days ago.

winnebago taco, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link

^^^ was just about to post this when i saw the update.
fusetron v reliable ime.

ian, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link

i missed out on the reissues at Wall of Sound, got there a few days too late :(

JoeStork, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 18:23 (ten years ago) link

sorry, that was me!

sleeve, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link

all this djong yun stuff is news to me - wow!

original bgm, Wednesday, 20 November 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link

god help me I just bought three more of those reissues from Fusetron

thanks, I think.

sleeve, Thursday, 21 November 2013 01:04 (ten years ago) link

prediction: you won't regret it

sweat pea (La Lechera), Thursday, 21 November 2013 02:16 (ten years ago) link

yeah, popol vuh are pretty much The Best Band Ever, so there is no worry. you will be having a great time.

ian, Thursday, 21 November 2013 03:00 (ten years ago) link


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