The day the POLL went away: NIN's The Fragile

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Obviously I like your one because you've chosen most of the tracks I've chosen

HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Thursday, 17 October 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link

Thanks, yours is cool too - though I'm not that big on Please.

The main trouble with listening to an edit is some of the opening segues sound really jarring in isolation.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 17 October 2013 22:57 (ten years ago) link

Please is in only because I needed to flesh out the relative perfection of the other 7 tracks and because of the chord-change into the chorus

HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Thursday, 17 October 2013 23:01 (ten years ago) link

Definitely some of his prettiest moments on this album; the Frail and the coda of We're in This Together are just lush.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 17 October 2013 23:02 (ten years ago) link

he did "the big come down" at the show i saw the other night, was not expecting my favorite fragile deep cut in a nin setlist in 2013

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 October 2013 23:50 (ten years ago) link

wow chap's 10 track reduction is probably perfect

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 October 2013 23:52 (ten years ago) link

Cheers!

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 17 October 2013 23:53 (ten years ago) link

to make it twelve tracks i'd probably drop in "the mark has been made" and "underneath it all"

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 17 October 2013 23:56 (ten years ago) link

Yeah good choices. I'm a little sad to lose The Frail/The Wretched as well.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Friday, 18 October 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link

there's no way I could cut The frail/The wretched

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 October 2013 03:52 (ten years ago) link

lj how would you assess the lyrics of this album

Maggishos soyfriend. Wins. (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 18 October 2013 23:46 (ten years ago) link

balladic

HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Friday, 18 October 2013 23:48 (ten years ago) link

more in terms of value judgments than structure

Maggishos soyfriend. Wins. (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 18 October 2013 23:49 (ten years ago) link

there are some beautiful moments on this album in terms of SONICS
i am going to get high drink some burgundy and play it loud one of these days

Maggishos soyfriend. Wins. (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 18 October 2013 23:52 (ten years ago) link

the big come down = don't give this track that title

Maggishos soyfriend. Wins. (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 18 October 2013 23:54 (ten years ago) link

the lyrics on this album work surprisingly well for the puerile sloganeering that they are

HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Saturday, 19 October 2013 00:07 (ten years ago) link

directness of lyric to match directness of the music perhaps although the latter has more subtlety

HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Saturday, 19 October 2013 00:07 (ten years ago) link

see with the downward spiral i would use that same argument but that album had a reassuring kind of acrid, devitalized sort of feel that kept it in the lineage of various industrial predecessors but the fragile is much more refined and 'full' sort of sound probably courtesy of whatever state of the art late 90s digital production

Maggishos soyfriend. Wins. (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 19 October 2013 00:16 (ten years ago) link

i revisited this album for the first time in ages recently. and even now, i'm no closer to remembering anything but "We're In This Together" in any particular detail.

deez so unusual (some dude), Saturday, 19 October 2013 00:19 (ten years ago) link

Even Deeper has that direct chorus, but it also has some jazzy touches unthinkable in The Downward Spiral. I guess the lyrics, while still direct, are less confrontational, more reflective this time out.

HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Saturday, 19 October 2013 00:21 (ten years ago) link

Apart from that shitty Starfuckers song

HAVE YOU SEEN ME? Please don't hesitate (imago), Saturday, 19 October 2013 00:21 (ten years ago) link

there's no way I could cut The frail/The wretched

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 October 2013 03:52 (Yesterday) Permalink

if it had been released on either a pre-/post- Fragile EP with maybe some of these castoffs [excluding starfuckers], i don't see why not.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 19 October 2013 00:25 (ten years ago) link

lawl i was trying to get you to riff on starfuckers inc

still has some nice chunky rock sounds

Maggishos soyfriend. Wins. (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Saturday, 19 October 2013 00:28 (ten years ago) link

I like the 'You're So Vain' middle eight in Starfuckers.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 19 October 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link

the single version of starfuckers ends with a live Kiss sample which totally makes the song IMO

goth drama is universal (latebloomer), Saturday, 19 October 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link

or rather the version included on the "day the world went away" single

goth drama is universal (latebloomer), Saturday, 19 October 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

This... might be my favorite NIN album? At least (Left) is a strong contender; we'll see how I feel once I get to (Right)

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link

"We're In This Together" is almost definitely my favorite NIN single at this point.

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 19:28 (eight years ago) link

I like this album a hell of a lot and whenever I've listened to it always felt that there's a whole bunch of underrated work on here. Pretty Hate Machine is pretty much my go-to Nine Inch Nails album at this point, and I still enjoy the hell out of The Downward Spiral even though I've listened to it so much that I don't think there's anything left to discover about it (that, and it seems to be one of those records that are best listened to when you're of a certain age) but the highlights on The Fragile are easily as good as anything Trent ever did.

Turrican, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 19:38 (eight years ago) link

weirdly, Pilgrimage is the track i enjoy hearing the most of this these days.

AKA Thermo Thinwall (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link

There are 3-4 songs I really like but honestly if I'm gonna listen to NIN now it's gonna be either The Slip or Hesitation Marks.

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 19:57 (eight years ago) link

our Hesitation Marks, I hope

twunty fifteen (imago), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link

well full disclosure, the album I actually LISTEN to the most is Year Zero Remixed

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:09 (eight years ago) link

I haven't really listened to Hesitation Marks since it first came out.

Turrican, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:25 (eight years ago) link

this is really my favorite nin album. a 9-track edit of hesitation marks would also be a contender

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:31 (eight years ago) link

i was v disappointed by every successive nin album bc i really just want him to build on his instrumental work on this record. ghosts was v inadequate as that goes

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:32 (eight years ago) link

I should also relisten to With Teeth sometime

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:35 (eight years ago) link

'Right Where It Belongs' probably one of my favourite Nine Inch Nails tracks, when all's said and done.

Turrican, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:37 (eight years ago) link

last two tracks on with teeth are incredible

rest of it ehh

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:40 (eight years ago) link

last time i saw them live the year zero tracks were kinda the best part of the set tbh, feel like that record is undersung

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link

Oh definitely, partially because "Survivalism" doesn't really work as a single but is incredible in context

Also the remix album really opens up a lot of that album's magic; I liked the original a LOT more after playing the remix album to death

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:47 (eight years ago) link

The whole concept album/weirdo marketing stunts/hey-there's-gonna-be-an-HBO-show! thing really hurt Year Zero as an album. But the only song I really remember being a good song is "Survivalism."

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the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:49 (eight years ago) link

"the great destroyer" and "in this twilight" are two of his best songs

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link

"The Great Destroyer" is fucking incredible on the remix album, which is what opened the original up for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRjOM59pduQ

this reminds me that I never did check out modwheelmood

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link

I still think that the heat sensitive CD art on Year Zero is pretty neat... on CD players where you can see the CD as it's spinning, you can see it gradually change colour as it plays.

Turrican, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 21:08 (eight years ago) link

that "great destroyer" remix is great. turns it into a normal song lol

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 21:10 (eight years ago) link

all versions of the great destroyer live remixed original and otherwise are dope as hell

sometimes i think zero is my absolute favorite but i do have way too much downward spiral angst nostalgia to not adore it

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 21:14 (eight years ago) link

The instrumental/alt version of the Fragile up on Apple Music is worth a listen, the instrumental version of With Teeth not so much.

Vernon Locke, Thursday, 15 October 2015 01:39 (eight years ago) link

The instrumental/alt version of the Fragile up on Apple Music is worth a listen

Listening now and enjoying it, but definitely one for the fans. Don't think someone who didn't know the songs quite well already would get much out of it.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Thursday, 15 October 2015 11:19 (eight years ago) link

Listening to this for only the third or fourth time ever (private session turned on in spotify so the discover playlist doesn't get the wrong idea). Disc 1 sounds in parts very Downward Spiral redux, but less intricate. Some classic angry Trent but my days of angry Trent appreciation are long behind me, I'm mostly digging the later quieter tracks although I do appreciate the machines that sound like guitars that sound like machines chewed up and spread between two intact machines that sound like guitars that sound like machines, and "the clouds will part and the sky cracks open and god himself will reach his fucking arm through just to push you down, to hold you down" is an A+ lol. We're in This Together I already knew was fucking immense. Disc 2 up next...

ledge, Thursday, 15 October 2015 13:00 (eight years ago) link

yeah its a pretty hefty list

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 29 March 2024 01:23 (two weeks ago) link


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