The Interior Life of Noel Gallagher: A Speculative History

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Too f***ing right. Novels and the people who write them, like I say, are putting themselves a few rungs above the rest of us. They're purporting to be intellectual, and... for you to write a book, is for you to say, "I am better than you." My 68 million records beat your one book.

of course those people who boast about selling tens of millions of records are in no way trying to put themselves "a few rungs above the rest of us". An amazing display of passive aggressive anti-intellectualism, well done Noel!

I like to think I have learnt a thing or two about music (Neil S), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 12:27 (ten years ago) link

jesus christ that interview. my brain was actually struggling for oxygen reading that, like i was being smothered by a huge pillow full of bloated ignorance.

gotta lol geir (NickB), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 12:40 (ten years ago) link

To what extent would u consider ng to hold the opinions of an ordinary briton

unblog your plug (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 12:42 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F4qzPbcFiA

Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 12:48 (ten years ago) link

Think no one should ever suggest even in jest "dont care about the music, but he's good copy" ever again

that is unreadable

Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 12:52 (ten years ago) link

I would like to see his bookshelf. His collection of books about shit that happened.

woof, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 12:54 (ten years ago) link

I imagine he has a small collection of novels. Two Irvine Welshes, the complete Kevin Sampson, maybe a John King. None of them finished.

woof, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 12:57 (ten years ago) link

Tony Parsons.

I can still taste the Taboo in my mouth when I hear those songs (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 12:58 (ten years ago) link

Guy is a comedian. I doubt he even believes the things he says himself.

Saying that, I can imagine he never reads a book/novel.

Mark G, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 13:00 (ten years ago) link

Also, is his more famous brother an inveterate church-goer?

Mark G, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 13:01 (ten years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Wallace_(humourist)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humourist

The material written or performed by humorists tends to be more subtle and cerebral than the material created by stand-up comics and comedy writers.[citation needed]
The intention is often to provoke wry smiles and amusement rather than outright belly laughs.[citation needed]

I can't control my fingers (onimo), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link

"Humorist" redirects here. For the thoroughbred racehorse, see Humorist (horse).

I can't control my fingers (onimo), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link

Dom Joly and Danny Wallace are to team up for a BBC Radio 5 Live show about the bizarre traditions of the festive season.

Most terrifying sentence ever written?

There's a lack of... soul on Radio 1. (bends), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 13:37 (ten years ago) link

only virtue of wallace is that any success or visibility he has might upset Dave Gorman. i can imagine it as a downbeat 50s london novel, increasingly bitter comedian on the way down starting to fixate on his former sidekick, believes he's stolen his life.

woof, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 13:46 (ten years ago) link

"Dom Joly and.." is enough

Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link

shitty-haired altar

mookieproof, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link

"Dom Joly and a hungry Bengal Tiger are to be locked in a prison cell together"

There's a lack of... soul on Radio 1. (bends), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link

his views don't reflect those of the average briton, but the general level of ignorance he displays is pretty much representative of, without using labels, a certain section of our society.

OutdoorFish, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link

"Dom Joly and a hungry Bengal Tiger are to be locked in a prison cell together"

Someone probably could have done a better variation on this, I just woke up and saw this and thought someone was bound to get their first if I didn't.

There's a lack of... soul on Radio 1. (bends), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link

Saw "Dom Joly and.." is enough I mean, seemed like an open goal.

There's a lack of... soul on Radio 1. (bends), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link

is pretty much representative of, without using labels, a certain section of our society.

trying to think of labels that would have sounded as half sinister as this sentence construction.

There's a lack of... soul on Radio 1. (bends), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 15:08 (ten years ago) link

'half as sinister' even.

There's a lack of... soul on Radio 1. (bends), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link

trying to think of labels that would have sounded as half sinister as this sentence construction.

Now I'm worried this looks like I was having a go at Outdoorfish, which I wasn't, something just made me laugh about the was he phrased that. I should remember to not externalise my interior life on ilx before I've been awake for more than 10 minutes (or 'trying thinking before you post'), sorry.

There's a lack of... soul on Radio 1. (bends), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link

i think he was wrong to make the generalization tbh, the "section of society" it reflects is oafs, a category that knows no socioeconomic bounds imo

footballer of the future (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link

there is ignorance in all socioeconomic strata, it's just easy to stereotype what types belong to which i guess

OutdoorFish, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link

yeah, I've never met anyone as actively proud of their own ignorance as some of the public school types I encountered at university.

There's a lack of... soul on Radio 1. (bends), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 15:39 (ten years ago) link

many of whom were big Oasis fans, thinking about it.

There's a lack of... soul on Radio 1. (bends), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link

hahaha

OutdoorFish, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link

what novels would u have to have read and be able to discuss to what standard in order not to qualify for oaf socioeconomic standard pls, i ask as an interested outsider

unblog your plug (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link

Bravo Two Zero.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link

way to quote the one in which the narrator brags about beating on the paddies

unblog your plug (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 16:27 (ten years ago) link

it's not so much that someone hasn't read certain books, it's aggressively asserting that a large swathe of culture is somehow a terrible thing solely because you personally can't be bothered to make an effort to understand it at any level, that is the oafish thing.

gotta lol geir (NickB), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 16:42 (ten years ago) link

nothingness: the science of empty space by henning genz

OutdoorFish, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 16:45 (ten years ago) link

not henning berg then

gotta lol geir (NickB), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 16:48 (ten years ago) link

not a novel as such, but according to all creationists a true work of fiction.

OutdoorFish, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link

blackburn defender?

OutdoorFish, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link

xp Absolutely. I don't care if people don't want to read novels. It's the reactionary resentment that bothers me, and the implication that fiction is just for posh wankers and not simple working-class folk.

Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link

yeah i am the first to argue books aren't a more noble art form than any other - what makes Noel G a first class cunt here is his aggressive dismissal of even the motives behind reading books. as a working class kid who used to get called posh on the reg for having the temerity to give a shit about things like books i feel pretty comfortable calling an oaf an oaf tbh

footballer of the future (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link

sorry if this doesn't generate the right "liberal elitists of ILX scoff at the common man whilst swigging champers" vibe

footballer of the future (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link

the other irony here is Gallagher tries to pull his salt of the earth hardman shtick having made his living in one of the most effete career paths possible

footballer of the future (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link

Hold on, I've just remembered a very early Oasis interview, from immediately after they were hauled off the Dutch ferry for rowdiness and deported back to Blighty - in it, Liam rips the piss out of Noel for being holed up in his cabin wi' 'is fookin' books instead of joining in the fun.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link

Liam calls porn "books"

Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:26 (ten years ago) link

Noel: Yeah, alright. Well if you're, right, well if you're, right, well if, if you're proud about getting thrown off ferries, then why don't you go and support West Ham and get the fuck out of my band and go and be a football hooligan, right? Coz we're musicians, right? We're not football hooligans.
Liam: You're only gutted coz you was in bed fuckin' reading your fuckin' books...

sleepingsignal, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link

as a working class kid who used to get called posh on the reg for having the temerity to give a shit about things like books i feel pretty comfortable calling an oaf an oaf tbh

this this this this

Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:47 (ten years ago) link

noel always seems like he feels he has "something to prove" as he gets older imho.

Defund Phil Collins (stevie), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link

Odd, I was thinking about this thread just this morning

Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link

I imagine Noel read nothing but rock bios in the early days

Number None, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:58 (ten years ago) link

ACME how to construct a band using bits of early seventies british bands and other random bit and bobs, while distracting everyone with endless waffle about the beatles

OutdoorFish, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link

DW: Have you read it? You once said you'd never read a book. Have you still not?

NG: I'm reading a book at the minute.

DW: What book are you reading?

NG: I'm not saying.

DW: Why not? It's not that embarrassing, surely. Is it the Bible?

NG: No, it's not the Bible.

DW: Is it something like The Secret Diary of Adrian Mole or Harry Potter?

NG: No.

DW: What is it? Is it something that won't make you sound cool?

NG: No. It's just my missus, Sara... She's got a very superior attitude to books and...

DW: (sternly): Tell us what book it is.

NG: (exasperated): Noo. I'm not telling you what book it is.

DW: Is it a children's book?

NG: No, it's not a children's book. Someone I know was reading this book and I read the back of it and I thought: 'That sounds quite interesting, I'll go and buy that.' And of course I got it back and my fucking superior Scottish girlfriend went: 'That's fucking rubbish, what are you reading that shit for?'

DW: Who wrote it?

NG: It's a guy called ... It's a guy called Dan Brown, I do believe. It's called Angels and Demons.

DW: OK! Well that's all right. What does Sara read then?

NG: Fucking Proust. I don't know.

DW: So hang on. You're supposed to have never read a novel but you know who Proust is.

NG: I know who Proust is but I've never read a book! This is my first ever book. Believe it or not, it is.

There's a lack of... soul on Radio 1. (bends), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link

Aside from anything else, take yr chippy 'i got called posh once' offended marxist credentials out of the once-alltime speculative history thread ffs

unblog your plug (darraghmac), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 22:11 (ten years ago) link


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