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Please let this SF article be a Stephen Glass/Jayson Blair thing, exposed when someone sends it to the Third Eye Blind guy...

... (Eazy), Monday, 7 October 2013 18:17 (ten years ago) link

I mean, the overall premise is interesting, and a look into the Summer of Love (or probably even the 1849 prospectors) would feature a lot of flakes...

... (Eazy), Monday, 7 October 2013 18:18 (ten years ago) link

this is unbearable

the logo should be a graffiti mural of the word CULTURE being pushed forward into a butt

schlump, Monday, 7 October 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link

it is nicely written though? i am obviously waiting for some devilishly packeresque takedown penultimate paragraph but i think it is a good piece, in keeping with the recent bussle thing, that just strung up its subject with his own words, & also the piece about the weird elective private i think SF startup school, which actually i feel like was the weird Draper's University for Heroes thing but maybe wasn't.

schlump, Monday, 7 October 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link

OMG just read that piece. Barf barf barf.

quincie, Monday, 7 October 2013 23:25 (ten years ago) link

I can't tell if you guys are complaining about the article or the subjects. The people are gross but the article was pretty good, and there was a tone of mockery running through the whole thing. I agree w the comment that the tone was similar to the Bustle piece.

Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 01:00 (ten years ago) link

Anyway the article about the disintegrating law firm is better. So much drama!

Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 02:53 (ten years ago) link

The Guardian/Greenwald article was good but...too late? I dunno. Something about it bothered me.

the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 03:07 (ten years ago) link

The subjects were barf barf, the writing was barf. Thus my barf barf barf.

I am in the midst of the law firm article! So much build up that I'm worried the ending will be a disappointment.

quincie, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 03:57 (ten years ago) link

James B. Stewart's a bomb-ass journalist.

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 04:23 (ten years ago) link

Ah, I just remembered this unspeakable Heller piece, which doesn't build up my faith for the SF story.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 11:31 (ten years ago) link

Writing is not good guys, sorry, and article takes subjects way too seriously not nearly mocking enough.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 11:58 (ten years ago) link

Article rife with "result is a rising metropolitan generation that is creative, thoughtful, culturally charismatic, swollen with youthful generosity and dreams" gtfo.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 12:07 (ten years ago) link

Not even sure this Leap Transit thing is still going. What a lame ass idea.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 12:13 (ten years ago) link

"result is a rising metropolitan generation that is creative, thoughtful, culturally charismatic, swollen with youthful generosity and dreams"

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rlfss-RDWx4/T94uewywqYI/AAAAAAAAAk8/Z8HWGp504rg/s640/reality1.jpg

I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 13:23 (ten years ago) link

swollen with youthful greed and dreams

lag∞n, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link

Ethan Hawke has written novels! And Ben Stiller made the hotly anticipated Walter MItty movie! Granted, Wynona flamed out, and Garofalo is likewise wandering the wilderness, but otherwise - Reality Bites batting .500! Clearly the New Yorker should do a piece catching up with that particular hotbed of creativity.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link

I think you are confusing actors with characters in that shitty film.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link

Joe Don Baker also more successful than any of them.

One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link

lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 16:14 (ten years ago) link

Was he in Reality Bites?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link

Reality, Texas

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link

xpost yes he was her dad in the movie

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link

Certain of his friends “spend all week doing due diligence, and other businessy things”; others “are, literally, starving artists in Oakland.”

I’ve known Casnocha since, literally, his infancy: we grew up a few blocks away from each other, in San Francisco’s Cole Valley, and our families were friendly through a babysitting co-op. (That such a co-op existed perfectly distills the area’s mood and demographics in those years.)

“It’s like, Dude, you do! You do!” He twanged the guitar’s open strings. “Literally, there’s a room dedicated to miking these bad boys.” He twanged again.

“I had friends who were raising rounds for their companies. They were all awesome—like, literally, I could totally see these guys being millionaires soon. Some of them already are!”

“What we’re seeing now is literally a shift in the way that people do business—a shift from hierarchical architectures to networked architectures.”

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 16:58 (ten years ago) link

barf

marcos, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 16:59 (ten years ago) link

“Hardware? No, now you just put it on Amazon or Rackspace. Software? It’s all open-source. Distribution? It’s the App Store, it’s Facebook. Customer service? It’s Twitter—just respond to your best customers on Twitter and get satisfaction. Sales and marketing? It’s Google AdWords, AdSense.

marcos, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:01 (ten years ago) link

This braiding of tech-business growth with life-style values and aesthetics—and, from there, the world of art—creeps many people out.

http://i.imgur.com/angTNvK.jpg

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:01 (ten years ago) link

we have our Lyft and our Sidecar and our UberX and our InstantCab and our Flywheel

marcos, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:01 (ten years ago) link

He twanged again.

lag∞n, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link

Hwin asked the driver whether she had an auxiliary feed into her stereo. She did. He gave her his phone, and an electronic ballad started throbbing from the car’s front speakers.

“Who’s this?” the driver asked.

“My band, unreleased,” Hwin said. “Turn it up!”

The driver nodded appreciatively, and Hwin started singing along with his vocals. The windows were open, and the wind was in my face. We looped around Octavia and continued up Franklin, to the center of the life of a collective kid who, for reasons I still didn’t understand, seemed to have mastered everything about the new Bay Area and how it worked.

http://i.imgur.com/NoJWHpG.gif

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link

ready the launch codes

lag∞n, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link

If I hoped to understand the first thing about American culture in this decade, I realized, I’d need to figure out exactly what was going on in San Francisco.

http://i.imgur.com/KfBjaUT.jpg

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link

I asked him what he thought the next dip would look like, and he frowned. The coast was socked in, and the Ritz golf course seemed kind of scraggly. “Well, first we need a boom,” he said. I thought about people like Johnny Hwin and Tyler Willis and Naval Ravikant and wondered whether he was looking in the right places.

i have no idea who nathan heller is but this is the worst shit ive read in the new yorker maybe ever

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:13 (ten years ago) link

and i read lena dunham writing about owning a dog

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link

i dont understand what that means at all out of context

socki (s1ocki), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:36 (ten years ago) link

its the writer talking to an old money guy and getting worried that the old money guy doesn't know about all the cool new startup guys.

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link

its like the new yorkers music writing

lag∞n, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link

I think we've found the next dip, Lots of them, if you get my drift.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link

we have our Lyft and our Sidecar and our UberX and our InstantCab and our Flywheel
― marcos, Tuesday, October 8, 2013 1:01 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"Now I’ve sold most of my cars.."

chinavision!, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link

What’s going to happen to these serial entrepreneurs when they’re forty-five and have two kids—especially if they don’t have a hit company? This seemed a window onto the Bay Area’s future, so I asked a lot of people. No one knew. The consensus was that people like this go to work for Google.

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link

"Now I’ve sold most of my cars.."

looooooooooooool i totally didn't even catch that

marcos, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link

Chairish, a marketplace for high-end furniture.

ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link

That’s when his experiment in pushing culture forward really began.

marcos, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:08 (ten years ago) link

Forget about it, Jake, it's the Mission.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link

I think the barfiest thing to me was that at no point did the author ever pull back and note that these SF start-up-millionaire-nuevoVC-creative-class whatever people are totally out of touch with the lives of the 99.99999999% and that makes me not respect them very much.

quincie, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link

Them meaning both the subjects and the writer.

quincie, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link

Dylannn parodies come to life.

Related article in the current Vanity Fair:
http://www.vanityfair.com/society/2013/10/pacific-heights-real-estate

Trevor Traina, San Francisco’s undisputed social king, has enticed many of the Silicon Valley elite to his ultra-exclusive Pacific Heights neighborhood, showering them with advice about what to wear, how to entertain, and whom to know. But the concept of noblesse oblige may be harder to teach. Evgenia Peretz learns why the arrival of such high-tech moguls as Apple’s Jonathan Ive and Zynga’s Mark Pincus has put some Old Guard noses out of joint.

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link

“It’s like Knots Landing,” says Traina, with little irony. He moved to his first home on the Gold Coast—a 5,500-square-foot Wurster house—in 2000, after selling his tech company Compare.net to Microsoft for $100 million. When he decided to get married (to Swanson-food-and-wine heiress Alexis Swanson) and start a family, he deemed the house too small (“O.K. for one kid, but not multiple kids”) and moved across the street to his current house. A 1905 Georgian, it would fit not only a growing family but also his 300-piece photography collection, which includes works by Diane Arbus, Robert Frank, Walker Evans, Garry Winogrand, and William Eggleston. The house is an unabashed paean to extravagant beauty. In one corner is a pair of taxidermy peacocks from Paris—a gift from his stepmother, novelist Danielle Steel. In another, an ornate console table that belonged to movie director Franco Zeffirelli and took center stage at Traina’s dramatic marriage proposal to Alexis in the handbag section of New York’s Bergdorf Goodman. Then there’s his art-book reading room, for which he had a wild notion. “I said to [our decorator] Ann (Getty), ‘Could you do a wall of hand-sewn peacock feather?’ And she said, ‘Absolutely, no problem.’ She had her people hand-sew it.” He has infused his love for over-the-top exquisiteness into his latest Internet venture, a company called IfOnly, which raises money for charity by enlisting the world’s foremost talents to offer “life-enriching experiences” such as cooking with Thomas Keller or getting the world’s “top mixologist” to invent a cocktail for your friend for $250. “We all have too many cashmere sweaters,” he says, explaining the inspiration behind it. “What people want today are experiences and memories… A lot of friends aspire to have incredible experiences, and so I thought, What if we could really delight people by connecting them in the most incredible ways with their heroes and do good in the process? … It’s sort of what I already do.”

... (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link

I think the barfiest thing to me was that at no point did the author ever pull back and note that these SF start-up-millionaire-nuevoVC-creative-class whatever people are totally out of touch with the lives of the 99.99999999% and that makes me not respect them very much.

― quincie, Tuesday, October 8, 2013 1:35 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It's not focused on as much as it should be but he does talk about it briefly when discussing the guy who founded his own private bus service, talking about how taking the solution out of the hands of the government makes it less likely that "normal people" will benefit.

Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link

this thread has an appetite for the nyer introducing sardonic winking smilies & maybe in the digital edition deploying rolleyes.gif just to make it super clear though. i guess the guy is allowing an optimistic reading of where we're at & the attitudes that are guiding these people but in concert with how goofy everyone looks i think it's okay to let the reader draw their own conclusions? there doesn't have to be some slash & burn denouement, it puts forward a pretty explicit argument that this stuff kinda stratifies society somewhat

schlump, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link


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