oneohtrix point never

others have called the video "disturbing". i'm not sure i understand. i think it's rather beautiful, strange and vacant, but nicely poised between live and memorex. mysterious.

that video always me feel weirdly nauseous - I love it

vid is kinda hilarious

yeah, but subtly, more like amusing

"others have called the video "disturbing". i'm not sure i understand."
I think this is the disturbing one...
http://pointnever.com/

Live show in London was fantastic last week, 'Still Life' sounded like the end of the world...those chords...tectonic plates....

oh dear god (xp)

i understand

What I find disturbing about it is the claustrophobic feeling of being stuck in a virtual/synthetic reality, and a crude one at that. Even as someone who doesn't believe in God, I find the idea of an entirely humanly reconstituted reality nauseating. I guess it makes me feel like Jean-Paul Sartre apparently felt on a regular basis, if we are to trust Nausea. A sickening hollowness to being as such.

hate to be tha anti-intellectual voice but yall reading way the hell much into gross stuff + coors light cans

The thing is, I reacted to that video in a very immediate, gut sort of way, and that's my attempt to explain why. That's roughly why I think it bothers me, but I didn't think about it first. It was a very immediate response. Then it was: this bothers me, why does it bother me so much?

Don't deny me the immediacy of my existential dread.

nah, it was created by a visual artist and there are a lot of references in it. magritte, dali, malevich, and the arrangement of objects in the last shot is reminiscent of like, melancholia or something. not that the references themselves make it deep or interesting, but it is at least mining this uncanny valley vibe out of mundane objects, which is interesting and effective apparently, considering the queasiness that some experience.

xxpost

for me the unease comes from the feeling of contingency, contingency of the objects that create possibilities for interaction/activity, and the contingency of our memories being based on movies based on memories of books, etc. this feeling that we're so accustomed to things that are arbitrary is sort of horrifying, the feeling of being out on a precipice several removes from so-called "natural" reality.

He will be doing an AMA on reddit today.

@OPN: Heads up I'll be doing a Reddit AMA on Tuesday, 1pm Eastern Time in r/music.

https://twitter.com/0PN/status/386927255961993216

kinda bummed by that but w/e, i like this new record a lot although i really really like the mix linked upthread

Don't deny me the immediacy of my existential dread.

― _Rudipherous_, Monday, October 7, 2013 8:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

np its cool

Live review:
http://t.co/1qqYdjLnC2

this album is so good

yeah

like a humorous vangelis imo

for me the unease comes from the feeling of contingency

applies to the music as well as the video obviously. the music, more than the video, also explores the freedom and beauty that kind of contingency gives you. it's that beauty with a touch of existential dread thing that makes this album so compelling, personally.

my funny vangelis

like a humorous vangelis imo

Kinda. I might be missing the jokes on this one though. Listening again.

The imagery in the video I was freaking out over (not really) wasn't made for the music, apparently. It uses still by [somebody or other] Murata. I shared it with someone very up on contemporary art and he recognized it immediately.

I shared it with someone very up on contemporary art

(is himself an artist frankly, exhibiting in legitimate galleries, to the extent that art galleries can be legitimate.)

I miss rigorous sequencer workouts.

Everything since Returnal (including parts of that record) has suffered from a Drive To Communicate Big Ideas. There's more profundity in a Roland ripping perfectly processed beautiful arpeggios than in exploring memory or nostalgia or whatever kinds of "important ideas" he seems to be attempting to communicate.

a Roland ripping perfectly processed beautiful arpeggios

but he still does this

Meh. I love his old stuff, but if he was still just cranking that out, it'd get real tired IMO. Rifts is enough. Felt like he was basically a revivalist act there in the beginning. A good one, but still beholden to past artists.

The constant reinvention and forward motion is a big part of what makes him interesting to me. The memory/nostalgia mining was always there, he's just switching up methods. More ~conceptual~ about it now, sure, but it's still very pleasing music.

Xp

Rudipherous- it's Takeshi Murata, and he's been at it for a while. He had a clip on the Residents' Commercial Album DVD too, though not in this style.

xpost to Clarke B

the whole big ideas thing is only there to engage with if you need it to be. His music is plenty enjoyable on its own terms without having to worry about the meaning of it all.

idk what ideas music can express

The video installation that accompanied the moma ps1 set this afternoon was kind of tedious, especially toward the end. Was anyone else there?

how is he live?

i thought pretty good (and VERY loud) but i saw him in a church and the ambience helped influence the experience considerably

http://crackmagazine.net/music/oneohtrix-point-never/ :)

last time I saw him (2011?) not great

but I'll be going to his SF show, despite terrible venue, because R+7

considering heading to this tonight... for people that have seen him on this tour, how was it? $16 isn't terrible i guess

Zebra still makes me cry

upthread i said that the video component of his show was "tedious" but now i think this is wrong. those lonely, crude, amorphous cgi shapes haunt me to this day. they just all seemed so LONELY.

My girlfriend described his visuals from a few years back as a like a "corporate logo hallucinating." Thought that was otm.

ha yes! good descrip

revived this to say i went down a youtube clickhole of Flim & the BB's tracks (my parents had seriously bad taste) and, well, i wonder if mr. 1-0 is into them? google reveals only two common mentions on the whole internet

I listened to the entire Rifts box set front to back last weekend. it was quite good, but IMO R Plus Seven trumps anything in here.

DEFINITELY go see him live, however. his set at Big Ears back in March was so great that I didn't even think about leaving early to catch the Jonny Greenwood thing (although I ended up catching the last 30 minutes of it and it was totally badass). he's not a particularly dynamic performer - it was very much one of those electronic music sets where it looks like the artist is just aggressively checking his email - but who gives a shit when the music + the visuals just engulf you. A++++ would absolutely see again.

i like some oneohtrix stuff all right -- "zebra" is totally a highlight -- but ford & lopatin! i want more stuff like that.

i think i probably underrated R Plus Seven at the time. i've always kinda likes OPN but never really delved that deeply into his catalog, but R Plus Seven stands out in my memory as a distinct, fascinating album. the video for Problem Areas really kinda hooked me into it.

i love when his juno gets all melodic whiny g-funk ("memory vague", "andro", etc)

I don't know who Gabi is, but this new song on Software is tremendous if you like stuff like Julia Holter or Katie Gately:
https://bleep.com/release/54535-gabi-koo-koo

New Suicideyear album is great too - gaseous 0PN-style melodies on top of some booming bass heft