Plus he's confusing two unrelated points. Of course viewers who aren't actually from the ghetto get a vicarious thrill from watching the show. The same can be said about any good television or film drama, not to mention a lot of good feature journalism. And this "thrill" has little to do with the question of whether it's actually a realistic portrait or not, but my guess it's by far the closest thing to a realistic portrait of that life television has ever seen.
― Bonobos in Paneradise (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 13:53 (fifteen years ago) link
freakanomics should show oz to some actual aryan nation lifers.
― meme economist (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 13:54 (fifteen years ago) link
you can read it from the site? i can't see the link.there is more about how they caught the guy w/ 90 lbs. http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/baltimore_city/bal-drugseizure0223,0,4786815.story don't put cocaine in the back of your pickup truck, duh
― я рилли (harbl), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 13:58 (fifteen years ago) link
oh, i was looking at the wrong article, sry
I talked to my dad the other day; he and my mom are halfway through the first DVD of season one. This is going to be hilarious.
― Easter Time / Chocolate Time (joygoat), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link
I swear there's some episode in season one where Prez is listening to a new wave station that sounds like its playlist comes straight from the 1980's. I'd never take Pryzbylewski for an OMD fan.Gotta wonder what's on Rawls' playlist.
Gotta wonder what's on Rawls' playlist.
I can see Prez listening to alt rock or an alt rock for women station that would play new wave songs. I could see him liking Elvis Costello.
Rawls: butt rock. BTO "Taking Care of Business" - maybe "Slow Ride" - dude's a bear. Don't think he'd be listening to Madonna, but maybe Judas Priest.
― candy corn for lunch and dinner (sarahel), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 22:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Wait, what kind of radio format is "alt rock for women," exactly?
― nabisco, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 22:08 (fifteen years ago) link
All I can imagine is "all Wallflowers, all the time," and the "for women" part is a bit confusing even then
― nabisco, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Sarah McLaughlinAni DiFranco
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.filmquarterly.org/index2.htmlbasically latecomer anglo wire viewer says it isn't real enough/panders to white hbo viewers, citing... the fucking freakonomics blogger in nyt. no mention of it screening on BET i don't think. us racial politics, brit style.
basically latecomer anglo wire viewer says it isn't real enough/panders to white hbo viewers, citing... the fucking freakonomics blogger in nyt. no mention of it screening on BET i don't think. us racial politics, brit style.
Hmm, the writer doesn't necessarily seem to be saying that it isn't real enough. He seems to be examining the appeal of the show (and the Freakonomics blog series on the show) to white people, whom the writer seems to portray as a monolithic bloc. I went and read the Freakonomics posts, (academic watches the show w/actual black drug dealers and gang dudes) and they confirmed a significant amount of realism/authenticity.
I think the writer's portrayal of white people interested in the show is overly simplistic. I live in Oakland, and regularly see the dealers and junkies, and recent news stories of the Oakland PD could easily make a Wire season storyline. I watched the show, partly for a "inside view" into what I only observe walking or driving by, as well as noting regional differences -- Oakland's drug trade involves more kids on bikes -- probably in relation to a balmier climate and more spread out geography.
― candy corn for lunch and dinner (sarahel), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Prez is a Johnny Cash man! Or maybe the point is that he turns into one after going through wallflowers purgatory, and that combined with his Hemingway beard redeems him. David Simon clearly loving "The Man Comes Around" closing Generation Kill w/it too.
― ogmor, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link
In the SF Bay Area, there's a station called "Alice" - that smacks of being a national format - that consists of (based on overhearing it occasionally, advertised artists on station ads and on the masthead of their website) alt-folk-rock, new wave, lighter rock - like Sarah McLachlan, Sting, Sheryl Crow, Dave Matthews Band, U2, Coldplay. I think their target demographic is college educated white women between 25 - 45.
― candy corn for lunch and dinner (sarahel), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 22:36 (fifteen years ago) link
I live in a rural area and the Wire still rings true, just substitute Oxycontin and Meth for Dope and Coke. Our politicians are notoriously corrupt too. There's a Clay Davis in nearly every little, backwoods town.
― leavethecapital, Tuesday, 24 February 2009 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link
KFOG, basically.
― Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Tuesday, 24 February 2009 23:50 (fifteen years ago) link
KFOG is a bit more dudely than Alice - I think KFOG also targets older - like up to age 54. KFOG is radio for baby boomer dad who likes Clapton and sometimes kicks back and smokes weed.
― candy corn for lunch and dinner (sarahel), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 01:48 (fifteen years ago) link
Interesting article on dubbing The Wire into German:http://blog.babbel.com/the-words-should-roll-out-of-the-mouths-on-the-dubbing-of-the-wire-in-german/
― Bianca Jagger (jaymc), Thursday, 26 February 2009 23:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Interview, rather.
David Simon Blasts The New Baltimore Police Department Policy of Withholding The Names of Officers Who Use Deadly Force
― eman, Friday, 27 February 2009 05:18 (fifteen years ago) link
another good DS article on the same topic in today's Post: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/27/AR2009022703591.html?hpid%253Dopinionsbox1
― SBarro (some dude), Monday, 2 March 2009 01:21 (fifteen years ago) link
THE WIRE COMES TO BBC2 THIS SPRING
― f f murray abraham (G00blar), Thursday, 12 March 2009 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link
good luck uk
― goole, Thursday, 12 March 2009 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link
http://smokingsection.uproxx.com/TSS/2009/02/if-rappers-were-characters-from-the-wire
Has this been posted? It's surprisingly decent, tho McNulty was really really robbed.
― droling lapdogs (hmmmm), Friday, 13 March 2009 02:56 (fifteen years ago) link
real pleasure noticing that mcnulty and i were swigging from matching bottles of jameson tonight
― 14 karat gold steen computer wizard (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 14:16 (fifteen years ago) link
There's a Clay Davis in nearly every little, backwoods town.
Boss Hog, pretty much.
― Eephin' Pageant (kingkongvsgodzilla), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link
Some casting news on David Simon's new project.http://www.hitfix.com/articles/2009-3-10-new-oscar-nominee-joins-hbo-s-tremeFinding it kind of hard to visualize how this show will work at the moment, the concept seems quite nebulous
― Number None, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 15:06 (fifteen years ago) link
So this starts on BBC2 tonight. You all been good boys and girls telling everyone you've ever met to tune in now it's not on FX at 3 in the morning or whatever?
― there's a big metaphor going on in which pussy is medicine (a hoy hoy), Monday, 30 March 2009 10:03 (fifteen years ago) link
i bought series 1 on dvd and then lent it to someone after only watching the first 5. that was before christmas...
(am tempted to buy the others as well rather than be a slave to nightly bbc2 showings. is only £15 a season after all)
― koogs, Monday, 30 March 2009 11:14 (fifteen years ago) link
Best way to watch wire is three-four eps at a time tho. I stand by dvd
― swedes put dill on fields of salmon (fields of salmon), Monday, 30 March 2009 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link
OTM. I don't know how I would have handled having to wait a WHOLE WEEK for a new episode.
― legendary North American forest ape (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 March 2009 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link
It's mon-fri, 11:20pm, a bit too late really (projecting my life onto entire BBC2 viewers now), but I can't be bothered starting to concentrate on something at that time.
Was it on weekly when it was first shown (either HBO or FX)? - this seems like such a stupid question, I'm sorry. lol dvd boxsets.
― new drone spider (j.o.n.a), Monday, 30 March 2009 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah, it was a weekly show during the HBO original run.
― legendary North American forest ape (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 March 2009 15:41 (fifteen years ago) link
> It's mon-fri, 11:20pm
that would be too easy:
Mon 23:20 The TargetTue 23:20 The DetailWed 23:20 The BuysThu 23:20 Old CasesFri 23:35 The Pager
― koogs, Monday, 30 March 2009 15:55 (fifteen years ago) link
With the iPlayer, isn't it now basically on whenever you want though? Just start a day late.
― krakow, Monday, 30 March 2009 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm like 80% certain I played craps with Marlo in Shreveport this weekend. Is he in the new David Simon project?
― too many misters not enough sisters (milo z), Monday, 30 March 2009 21:18 (fifteen years ago) link
did u get shot? if no, prolly not marlo.
― continuous flow crustastunna (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 March 2009 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link
did it have hands? did it have a head?
― unexpected item in bagging area (sarahel), Monday, 30 March 2009 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link
this seems better, so far, I think:
― the pinefox, Monday, 30 March 2009 23:55 (fifteen years ago) link
WH ----??!!
― ljubljana, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 01:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Cagney and Lacey being a better show than The Wire is a special kind of challops.Thanks for giving me a reason to hear the themesong again, tho'.
― continuous flow crustastunna (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 01:45 (fifteen years ago) link
that kind of challops will get you a SB, son
― hello my name is peter francis geraci are you in debt (omar little), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 01:53 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm not saying it's a GOOD challop, just a special one.
― continuous flow crustastunna (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 01:55 (fifteen years ago) link
just started re-watching this. <3
― tehresa, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 02:02 (fifteen years ago) link
Am going to start watching this again this week - excited!
― Too Into Dancing to Argue (ENBB), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 02:04 (fifteen years ago) link
friend of mine the other day telling me how shes watching it for the 1st time - so jealous - already done 1-4 x2
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 02:21 (fifteen years ago) link
I've only seen like 4 episodes so it kind of is like the first time for me.
― Too Into Dancing to Argue (ENBB), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 02:22 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah i might need to start over
still think the opening scene is G.O.A.T American Drama
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 02:27 (fifteen years ago) link
like maybe it'll be boring and played at some point, but i bet countless theses/dissertations will use "you got to, man, this is america" as an epigraph or whatever for decades to come
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 02:28 (fifteen years ago) link
snot boogie
btw 2/3rd seasons of big love are pretty great
― ice cr?m, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 02:31 (fifteen years ago) link
Pinefox is autistic, right?
-- Dom Passantino, Wednesday, May 7, 2008 9:38 PM
― ¸„ø¤º°¨º¤ø „¸¨°º¤ø„¸¸„ø ¸„ø¤º°¨¸„ø¤º „¸¨°º¤ (eman), Tuesday, 31 March 2009 02:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Half my weekly phone conversation with my mom now revolves around her talking about the Wire. Yesterday she was bitching about Ziggy and telling me what the Greeks are up to now.
― joygoat, Tuesday, 31 March 2009 02:59 (fifteen years ago) link