DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived post-Murdoch era

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"Sanya-Jeet Thandi, a 20-year-old LSE student living in Holborn who joined UKIP when she was a sixth-former and was described at the party’s last national conference as future leadership material"

She was on Ch4 news in the week. I've never heard anyone more posh and clueless.

She was on again last night - possibly even more posh and clueless this time round - alongside a 40 year old man who was representing young ethnic minority voters

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 October 2013 08:10 (ten years ago) link

She at least has youth as an excuse I suppose. Her Twitter backdrop is a faded picture of Gandhi with 'DISOBEY' underneath. Not sure she's really asked the rest of her party of their opinion on that one.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 October 2013 08:34 (ten years ago) link

she means disobey gandhi i think

Victims’ tears deter rodent paedophiles (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 October 2013 08:35 (ten years ago) link

You get a lot of hardcore free-marketeers who are clueless about everything other than Hayek at the LSE.

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Thursday, 3 October 2013 08:57 (ten years ago) link

LSE students are either well meaning Sociology/Development Studies/IR types, or dead-eyed capitalists in my experience.

Neil S, Thursday, 3 October 2013 09:06 (ten years ago) link

or yeah what you said!

Neil S, Thursday, 3 October 2013 09:06 (ten years ago) link

In Canada you have people going to food banks every week and it can become a habit

Even with nutcase Harper still in charge, Britain could do with being a lot more like Canada.

Shit, about to get real, now hits fan:


Ed Miliband MP, Leader of the Labour Party, has written to Lord Rothermere, the proprietor of the Daily Mail and the Mail on Sunday newspapers:

Dear Lord Rothermere,

Yesterday I spoke at a memorial event held at Guy’s Hospital in London for my uncle, Professor Harry Keen, a distinguished doctor who died earlier this year. It was an event in a room on the 29th floor of Guy’s Hospital which was attended only by family members, close friends and colleagues.

I was told by one of my relatives late yesterday evening that a reporter from the Mail on Sunday had found her way into the event uninvited. I also discovered that, once there, she approached members of my family seeking comments on the controversy over the Daily Mail’s description of my late father as someone who “hated Britain”.

My wider family, who are not in public life, feel understandably appalled and shocked that this can have happened.

The Editor of the Mail on Sunday has since confirmed to my office that a journalist from his newspaper did indeed attend the memorial uninvited with the intention of seeking information for publication this weekend.

Sending a reporter to my late uncle’s memorial crosses a line of common decency. I believe it a symptom of the culture and practices of both the Daily Mail and the Mail on Sunday.

There are many decent people working at those newspapers and I know that many of them will be disgusted by this latest episode. But they will also recognise that what has happened to my family has happened to many others.

I believe no purpose would be served by me complaining to the Press Complaints Commission because it is widely discredited.

Instead, I am writing to you as the owners of the Daily Mail and the Mail on Sunday because I believe it is long overdue that you reflect on the culture of your newspapers. You should conduct your own swift investigation into who was responsible at a senior level for this latest episode and also who is responsible for the culture and practices of these newspapers which jar so badly with the values of your readers.

There are bigger issues for the people of Britain in the midst of the worst cost of living crisis for a century than intrusion into the life of my family. But the reaction of many people to the Daily Mail’s attacks on my father this week demonstrates that the way your newspapers have behaved does not reflect the real character of our country.

It is now your responsibility to respond.

Ed Miliband

aldi young dudes (suzy), Thursday, 3 October 2013 10:55 (ten years ago) link

Jesus. Good on Milliband. This could be the making of him.

Holy Shirt! (stevie), Thursday, 3 October 2013 11:09 (ten years ago) link

Yeah that's stiffer stuff than i ever figured out of him.

Victims’ tears deter rodent paedophiles (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 October 2013 11:13 (ten years ago) link

too soon, darragh

^ sarcasm (ken c), Thursday, 3 October 2013 11:19 (ten years ago) link

The Mail shoot themselves in the foot yet again if they're trying to resist press reform.

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Thursday, 3 October 2013 11:19 (ten years ago) link

Campbell might be right about Dacre "losing the plot" after all

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 October 2013 11:19 (ten years ago) link

Public denunciations, spies at private memorial service - only one of these parties is acting like they're operating in a totalitarian regime and it isn't Ed Miliband.

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Thursday, 3 October 2013 11:22 (ten years ago) link

to be fair the mail was just being robust, raucous and, by definition, will sometimes offend.

^ sarcasm (ken c), Thursday, 3 October 2013 11:22 (ten years ago) link

Jon Snow: My source at the Daily Mail tells me Rothermere is fuming: Has given Dacre a one year contract only: wants him out and Geordie Greig in!

https://twitter.com/jonsnowC4/status/385734239028645889

i'll be your mraz (NickB), Thursday, 3 October 2013 11:54 (ten years ago) link

A response to that

Tom Latchem ‏@theboylatch 1m
@jonsnowC4 He's been on 1-year rolling contract for a while, apparently, just extended by a year. And GG is ed of MoS who sent reporter.

gyac, Thursday, 3 October 2013 11:57 (ten years ago) link

So much for sauces. and saucers.

Mark G, Thursday, 3 October 2013 11:58 (ten years ago) link

Kinda hoped this was dying down, Little Ed had made his point and should avoid appearing to labour (lol) the point... but along come some stupid cunts from the Mail to give the story a shot in the arm! Hurrah!

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 October 2013 12:01 (ten years ago) link

Rothermere will be thinking of his investment as well as "what happens if Miliband gets in?" Geordie Grieg is about as establishment as they come but less rabid than Dacre. A Daily Mail under his stewardship would be no less right-wing but with some of the thundering replaced by puff pieces about Kensington socialites no one cares about.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 October 2013 12:35 (ten years ago) link

It would also become the Daily Boris within seconds.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 October 2013 12:36 (ten years ago) link

Grieg is the current MoS editor. This memorial thing happened on his watch, although he is saying he did not send the journo himself.

aldi young dudes (suzy), Thursday, 3 October 2013 12:40 (ten years ago) link

Yeah I mean the Mail and MoS newsroom culture is just utterly poisonous and they all get infected with it, it basically all flows down from Dacre.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 October 2013 12:44 (ten years ago) link

i was under the impression that greig was fond of subtly undermining dacre, as his rival, rather than supporting him, which makes this interesting

lex pretend, Thursday, 3 October 2013 12:52 (ten years ago) link

yeah tbf besides the fact that this happened under Greg's watch, there've been rumblings for a while now that he's in line to succeed Dacre soonish. Private Eye mentioned a few weeks ago that he'd been telling friends he'd be in the seat by Christmas iirc.

sktsh, Thursday, 3 October 2013 12:58 (ten years ago) link

The smart thing for Greig to do would be to apologise unreservedly and deal with the journos internally. Would put Dacre in a very awkward position.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:01 (ten years ago) link

2 journalists suspended, according to the BBC

What I cannot bear is "normality." (dowd), Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:03 (ten years ago) link

Oh it appears he's already done so.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:04 (ten years ago) link

Is there a Private Eye this week?

Holy Shirt! (stevie), Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:20 (ten years ago) link

In Thursday's edition, columnist Stephen Glover accuses Ed Miliband of staging a "show of calculated hysteria" for political reasons.

"On one level, Red Ed knew that, as he has bound himself to his father in a series of speeches, he could not afford to let the accusation that Miliband senior had hated Britain go unchallenged," he wrote.

"On another level, Ed Miliband realised that his diatribes against this paper would go down well with the party faithful, and possibly convince the wider electorate that he was stronger and more determined than they had thought.

"He may also hope that, by creating such an almighty hullabaloo about his supposedly traduced father 19 months before the general election, he will somehow neutralise a potentially embarrassing issue - the influence of his Marxist father on his own beliefs - and deter the press from returning to it in the near future."

Or, you know, he maybe hopes you fuckers would stop disparaging his dead dad. That's how a human being would respond, anyway.

Holy Shirt! (stevie), Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:23 (ten years ago) link

I've heard this argument from other sources (aka right wing twats), blown out the water by this latest indiscretion from the Mail

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:26 (ten years ago) link

"supposedly traduced"

lwwwwwwwwwl

i don't think it would be completely unfair to speculate that it was a mainly column b but certainly column a would have been weighed and measured too? not a criticism, but certainly this was also a very good political opportunity to do as described, more fool he that didn't take it at the level of the game he's at.

Victims’ tears deter rodent paedophiles (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link

Somewhere out there, MEL P is sharpening her pen, ready to enter this debate like Godzilla.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link

"Melanie Phillips", that totally non-fictional columnist.

Neil S, Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link

please can they make liz jones write about it

lex pretend, Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:37 (ten years ago) link

When you think about it, your ex-husband having an affair IS a bit like fleeing the Holocaust.

Matt DC, Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:44 (ten years ago) link

Somewhere out there, MEL P is sharpening her pen, ready to enter this debate like Godzilla.

Mel just the girl to take down Ed's evil witch of a mother, I mean:

"a long-standing supporter of left-wing pro-Palestinian organisations" and is a signatory of the founding statements of both Jews for Justice for Palestinians

I can almost see the Phillips' eyes bulging, head revolving, bells clanging, klaxons, sirens etc

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link

Many xps to Stevie: yep!

sktsh, Thursday, 3 October 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link

Slimey squirmy Quentin Letts making an ass of himself on QT now. Unbelievable.

In the airplane over the .CSS (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 October 2013 22:13 (ten years ago) link

Wrong thread?

In the airplane over the .CSS (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 3 October 2013 22:13 (ten years ago) link

Quentin Letts accusing Miliband senior of being a "useful idiot" is beyond parody.

Neil S, Friday, 4 October 2013 08:21 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JIvARoGbS4

aldi young dudes (suzy), Friday, 4 October 2013 08:29 (ten years ago) link

(xp) Letts, in contrast, being a useless idiot amirite or a meringue?

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Friday, 4 October 2013 08:39 (ten years ago) link

Best of all was the spontaneous laughter from the audience when Letts tried to paint a picture of the Mail as anti-establishment outriders tweaking the noses of the powerful and privileged

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Friday, 4 October 2013 08:41 (ten years ago) link

with friends like that..

Mark G, Friday, 4 October 2013 08:45 (ten years ago) link

that was followed by some UKIP clown putting his hand up to say he supported the Daily Mail in this then admitting he hadn't read any of it

Are you a horse? (onimo), Friday, 4 October 2013 11:51 (ten years ago) link

yeah they've never had a problem with Jewish refugees coming to the UK

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_FKUpGU_Jbp0/TE_BYKvF4iI/AAAAAAAAEYE/mYO03sMhqiM/s1600/Daily+Mail+1938+refugee+Jews.jpg

Are you a horse? (onimo), Friday, 4 October 2013 11:57 (ten years ago) link


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