yes, interesting drug, you're right.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 3 October 2013 07:07 (ten years ago) link
I remember really loving "November Spawned A Monster" at the time and wishing Moz would do more songs like that.
Recently, I played the song again and found the lyrics incredibly cringeworthy and awful, the wordless shrieking in the bridge representing the "monster" flat-out reprehensible, and Moz's singing to be outrageously constipated and forced.
At this point, the only Moz songs from that era I have any time for are "Alsatian Cousin", "Little Man, What Now?" and "Late Night, Maudlin Street" and that's partially because I haven't gone back to them in about a decade to see if I still like them.
― smang culture (DJP), Thursday, 3 October 2013 14:58 (ten years ago) link
Alsatian Cousin is amazing.
What about Disappointed?
― gyac, Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link
zero memory of it; generally speaking I would like to set Bona Drag on fire
― smang culture (DJP), Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:02 (ten years ago) link
(one minute in and I vastly prefer Electronic's song)
― smang culture (DJP), Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link
woah....bona drag is like moz's hatful imo
that's a crazy opinion bro
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 October 2013 17:22 (ten years ago) link
when you consider that this was all right at the beginning of Moz's "I'm gonna be a spiteful bigot for a hot minute" phase, it's less crazy
― smang culture (DJP), Thursday, 3 October 2013 17:26 (ten years ago) link
yeah but then i guess there's no morrissey you would like right?
just feel like the early singles and viva hate are pretty great as a period for him
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 October 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link
a few exceptions aside, this is a very accurate description of my position on Morrissey
― smang culture (DJP), Thursday, 3 October 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link
Had a discussion about the Smiths with my girlfriend, who now rates them as duds. Her reason is that "Marr's guitar playing sounds like a machine." I can actually see her point, although I still love them.
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Thursday, 3 October 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link
kinda surprised we never did a Bona Drag poll.
― piscesx, Thursday, 3 October 2013 19:04 (ten years ago) link
I'd love to hear working versions of Viva Hate songs, particularly the ones with more Vini Reilly.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 3 October 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link
Meanwhile, looks like Morrissey's book is actually coming out in a couple of weeks: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Autobiography-Morrissey/dp/0141394811/.
― Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 3 October 2013 22:27 (ten years ago) link
Hmmm, it's not listed on Penguin's site.
― gyac, Thursday, 3 October 2013 22:47 (ten years ago) link
"Full confirmation is expected from Penguin Books within the next 24 hours" it says on Morrissey Solo, so we'll see.
― Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 3 October 2013 23:04 (ten years ago) link
lol does this ever happen with books? like a book with a very major publisher may or may not exist at all?
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 October 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link
Autobiography covers Morrissey's life from his birth until the present day.
― fit and working again, Friday, 4 October 2013 03:39 (ten years ago) link
well tbh Penguin's site has always been a fucking mess. You can now pre-order it from Amazon!
― gyac, Friday, 4 October 2013 10:25 (ten years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-24396482
and everywhere, it seems, by mid oct.
― Mark G, Friday, 4 October 2013 11:04 (ten years ago) link
Ha yes of course - I only mentioned that as I went to the link to look up the ISBN.
― gyac, Friday, 4 October 2013 11:08 (ten years ago) link
Jon Savage (or a sub editor) has swiped the thread title!http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2013/oct/16/morrissey-autobiography-smiths
― piscesx, Thursday, 17 October 2013 01:51 (ten years ago) link
I swiped the thread title for Jon's piece. Seemed perfectly apposite.
― Unsettled defender (ithappens), Thursday, 17 October 2013 12:36 (ten years ago) link
hahaha
― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Thursday, 17 October 2013 12:37 (ten years ago) link
Why didn't you just call it "Morrissey: Why Is He So Bad And Hated?"
― Boards of Komeda (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 October 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link
cos he has a terribly annoying writing style. music and lyrical work was definitely the right option.
― OutdoorFish, Thursday, 17 October 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link
LOL . . .http://i.imgur.com/cAiVbnn.jpg?1
― rip van wanko, Friday, 17 January 2014 15:27 (ten years ago) link
Is this real?
http://www.passionsjustlikemine.com/legacy/legacy.htm
― Virginia, Plain and Tall (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 19:38 (ten years ago) link
!!! official remasters of the troy tate shit??? damn
― sXe & the banshees (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 19:41 (ten years ago) link
I'm not buying all of these again. Sorry, Smiths.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 19:47 (ten years ago) link
It's fake I think. An early April Fools thing or something.
― Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 19:56 (ten years ago) link
no Golden Lights?
― mahb, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 20:12 (ten years ago) link
Wow :-/
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 20:22 (ten years ago) link
My other half works back catalogue at Warner Music, I'll ask her if she knows anything about it when she gets home.
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 20:50 (ten years ago) link
somehow i can't look at morrissey without thinking of kramer from seinfeld
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 20:59 (ten years ago) link
UPDATE Feb. 18:As noted by several people in the comments, the release is an early April Fools' Day joke.This article was originally published in forum thread: Legacy Reissues (via PJLM) started by Ryan. View original posthttp://www.morrissey-solo.com/content/1665-The-Smiths-And-Morrissey-Legacy-Reissue-Series-(April-2014-via-Passions-Just-Like-Mine)
― Eyeball Kicks, Wednesday, 19 February 2014 21:03 (ten years ago) link
comedy genius!
― Isaiah "Ice" McAdams (cajunsunday), Wednesday, 19 February 2014 21:05 (ten years ago) link
For all that is good and holy, can we or someone please, please, please write an essay dissecting and tearing apart this clown's act?
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/james-francos-art-school-duo-daddy-preps-smithsinspired-album-20141111
I know, he's not worthy of being written about, but still. I hope there is enough venom in Smiths fans to put this joker in his place.
What's funny is that, of all people, the man who became the band's enemy is working with him, which tells you a lot about James Franco and Andy.
― ∞, Friday, 14 November 2014 00:20 (nine years ago) link
Does it really matter?
The songs are bigger than he is, and will survive this slight assault.
I guess I can say that, we will doubtless never hear it over here.
― Mark G, Friday, 14 November 2014 09:43 (nine years ago) link
(additional note to UK people who don't know: It's not his actual Daddy funding this)
― Mark G, Friday, 14 November 2014 09:44 (nine years ago) link
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10997480_10153038111028818_4345256183170354917_n.jpg?oh=ff1b340b4ecf1203db75ac81ebd41ae3&oe=55576B94&__gda__=1431476459_a286a7124c7fcc4e23c9e928dd4ea00b
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 14 February 2015 02:41 (nine years ago) link
did we ever have a poll about the best thread on ilm? this is it, i'd say.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 16 February 2015 19:16 (nine years ago) link
this has just been repeated:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01msf1r
"Bob Harris telling the story of the live session recordings The Smiths made for the BBC."
features morrissey in the radio 1 studio talking to kid jenson during a playback of that early session they did.
― koogs, Wednesday, 8 April 2015 11:35 (nine years ago) link
more reunion rumours..
― piscesx, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 20:34 (eight years ago) link
I honestly hope the Smiths never reform. There would be so much hype, such high expectations, an insane rush for tickets and massive resale markups... it stresses me out to think about it.
― JRN, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 21:17 (eight years ago) link
Is there anything more to the rumours than Warners starting an official Smiths twitter account?
― Eyeball Kicks, Tuesday, 5 April 2016 22:04 (eight years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/oct/29/johnny-marr-the-smiths-morrissey-simon-hattenstone
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 October 2016 19:05 (seven years ago) link
Morrissey is an asshole. So sad to read Johnny would have reformed in 08 if not for Moz being a flake and and weirdo.
― brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 29 October 2016 21:21 (seven years ago) link
I think Morrissey's indifference probably saved the legacy of the band, tbh.
At least to some degree.
I guess nobody ever thinks about the Police reunion, though, except for people who saw one of the shows.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 29 October 2016 21:32 (seven years ago) link
I'll just say this...I definitely would not want a reunited Smiths to attempt writing new material.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 29 October 2016 21:33 (seven years ago) link
barbarism comes from abroad? david it was really nothing?
― remy bean, Saturday, 29 October 2016 22:59 (seven years ago) link