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bán jacks are a bad idea ime but for that to work the descriptor has to follow the noun iirc and it doesnt sound partic like ban so i mean

hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Monday, 30 September 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link

what does the OED give as earliest usage?

zvookster, Monday, 30 September 2013 13:36 (ten years ago) link

Actually it stems from the Urdu "Bahnn Gehecked" which refers to a large pottery cooking bowl or gourd....These gourds were not very resistant to heat and developed cracks at the base.
When the Pasthu women lifted these onto their shoulders the base frequently came away showering the carrier with hot liquid or stew.

By common usage then the term became a descriptor for an item which was faulty or unsafe.
For instance when someone would attempt to lift a full basket of cobras for the snake charmer someone might say .."Be carefull Parminder....that could be bahnn gehecked...

British soldiers in India brought the expression to these islands

hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Monday, 30 September 2013 13:37 (ten years ago) link

boards.ie so caveat emptor

shit i made a sweet caveat emptor joke the last day and forget it now

hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Monday, 30 September 2013 13:37 (ten years ago) link

From the OED 2nd ed.

Anglo-Ir. slang.

Earliest quotations:
‘F. O'Brien’ At Swim-two-Birds 240 Here is his black heart sitting there as large as life in the middle of the pulp of his banjaxed corpse. 1956 S. Beckett Waiting for Godot (rev. ed.) 79 Lucky might get going all of a sudden. Then we'd be banjaxed [1954: ballocksed]. 1959 D. O'Neill Life has no Price ix. 169, I had the right to leave him talk, I suppose, and banjax us altogether? 1968 Observer 29 Dec. 19/1 You completely banjax the whole psychological impact. 1969 G. Lyall Venus with Pistol viii. 48 The man is a twit. I mean, he banjaxed that Zurich trip. 1972 New Yorker 28 Oct. 40/1 Ha-ha, so she ups and banjaxed the old man one night with a broken spade handle. 1974 Nature 22 Nov. 334/1 My sense of enlightenment was somewhat tempered by the banjaxed mood in which I found myself. 1976 U. Holden String Horses viii. 102 The dawn suicide the day before had made a lot of work and worry, had banjaxed things for a while. 1979 T. Wogan Banjaxed (1980) 78, I am out to banjax the bookies.

hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Monday, 30 September 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link

is it one of a pair with bollixed now i wonder

hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Monday, 30 September 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link

the american dictionary merriam webster gives 1939, but boyle sez it in juno & the paycock and i suspect it's o'casey's coinage

zvookster, Monday, 30 September 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link

yep suspect so xp

zvookster, Monday, 30 September 2013 13:39 (ten years ago) link

like podge & rodge?

gyac, Monday, 30 September 2013 13:40 (ten years ago) link

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=banjoed on the uk tip

zvookster, Monday, 30 September 2013 13:41 (ten years ago) link

banjaxed and bollixed is beautiful and i am def gonna start using it

pyoor o'casey yeah

hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Monday, 30 September 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link

originally from Caesar iirc: "alea banjacta est"

Luigi Nono, le petit robot (seandalai), Monday, 30 September 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link

The organisers of Cork’s main contribution to The Gathering have apologised after controversy flared up at Cork City Council over their use of the Cork term of abuse, ‘langer’, in relation to Michael Collins.

The controversy arose when Fine Gael members of Cork City Council noticed that a brochure promoting Cork Rebel Week carried a Cork Rebel Passport in the name of Michael Collins and in the slot for “sex”, bore the word ‘langer’.

The word ‘langer’ is a Cork term of abuse whose usage was generally confined to Leeside but after Roy Keane reportedly used it describe Mick McCarthy during their contretemps in Saipan before the 2002 World Cup, its familiarity spread.

The Saipan incident prompted local Cork songwriter Tim O’Riordan to pen ‘The Langer Song” which he recorded with his band Natural Gas which helped to promote ‘langer’ as a term of abuse beyond the Rebel County.

According to Sean Beecher in his Dictionary of Cork Slang, the word ‘langer’ has two meanings - ‘a disagreeable person’ as in ‘Go away, you langer’ or ‘a penis’, with the second derivation possibly coming from langur, a long tailed monkey in India.

topical

hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 10:58 (ten years ago) link

ime cork people would use langer almost affectionately about fellow corkonians.

Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:03 (ten years ago) link

So, apparently British people don't understand the word "banjaxed"!

Disgusting savages

Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:08 (ten years ago) link

who in terms of famous ppl has the platonic ideal of dublin accents

robbie keane seems pretty real

robbie's isn't really typical imo. a specific type.

shane lynch of boyzone the most famous person (in his day) to have a strong dublin accent.

― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), 17 April 2013

i've decided that this is richie sadlier btw

hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:11 (ten years ago) link

"famous ppl"

Number None, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:12 (ten years ago) link

what would be the best dialectal pejorative for niall quinn

― So hot in Herrenvolk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva)

eejit, if anyone ever wanted to say anything bad about lovely niall.

hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:12 (ten years ago) link

sadlier's accent kinda annoys me.

Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:15 (ten years ago) link

snob

hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:16 (ten years ago) link

tho would it not be his tone and mannerism that might annoy you?

hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:17 (ten years ago) link

get out of it, he's not even got a strong dublin accent. not at all.

Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:17 (ten years ago) link

^ delivered with sadlieresque disgust/dismissal

hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:18 (ten years ago) link

it's a combo, he's sort of arrogant and that comes through in the way he says things. i do like him though, moreso since i copped he was sadlier and his role on the show is "expert". i thought he was just another one of the regular presenters at first and him taking this role seemed irritating.

Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:19 (ten years ago) link

i like him, think he's the best prospect to emerge since .... well, jesus, since the 70 year olds i guess

hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:20 (ten years ago) link

he is good, and has good knowledge. he needs to resist the pull towards just being negative for the sake of it though, even stronger in ireland when in the shadow of the elders.

Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:21 (ten years ago) link

his buckling under the thuggish threat of brady after the german game was a warning to all upstarts everywhere that they haven't gone away you know, it could have been subliminal advert sponsored directly by FF rump waiting in the long grass to take ireland back from these shiny know-nothing critics that don't remember italia 90, aren't sthrong on the national question and don't understand how 'we do things' here. but they'll learn.

if he'd only fuckin nutted the old cunt straight twixt brows i think labour would have headed this morning's polls.

hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:27 (ten years ago) link

yeah brady is easily beaten down too. he cares too much and actually works in the game so a gleeful dunphy can always cut him to pieces.

Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:31 (ten years ago) link

I imagine Sadlier was quite cheerful til he encountered the terrifying black cloud of anhedonia that emanates directly from the core of Ray Houghton's being. That kind of encounter changes a man

Number None, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:32 (ten years ago) link

it's a different thing, alright, that lurks behind houghton's eyes.

it's like the end of a fantasy epic, you've killed the brady ogre and the dancing dunphy imp, you've probably been guided by the twinkling gruffness of giles, and you face houghton and think "this should be easy" and then in his eyes......the blackness that eats universes

hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:35 (ten years ago) link

haha - and yet despite his unshakeable evil, he also has less gravitas than the others, cos he just seems like such a fucking whingebag. i've always wanted george hamilton to just lose the rag and go "look we paid for you to sit here, am i going to have to listen to you moaning for the whole match?"

Evil Juice Box Man (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:43 (ten years ago) link

the damp mediocrity of true evil, small e evil

hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 11:44 (ten years ago) link

No discussion of Sadlier complete without mention of his incredible Milwall Christmas Party story - which probably also belongs in the Real England thread...

http://www.newstalk.ie/reader/47.302.347/1754/show_list_0_0/

Blandford Forum, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 12:05 (ten years ago) link

cant read/see that, is it a podcast

hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 12:30 (ten years ago) link

neither can I. Must be juicy though, the url is like 0_0

Number None, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 12:41 (ten years ago) link

That's weird. Hmm.

https://www.google.co.uk/#q=richie+sadlier+milwall+christmas+party

Should see you right, link titled 'The footballer's Christmas Party - Why it all goes wrong'

Blandford Forum, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 12:50 (ten years ago) link

sounds promising will stream later

ps i am at work and we use explorer 1.0 which might explain difficulties

hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 13:13 (ten years ago) link

'The Irish has new answers' i can't help reading this and imagining an exasperated finnish finance minister dreading the latest proposal from noonan

hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 13:19 (ten years ago) link

I was thinking line from a bad Eleventh Hour sketch myself.

gyac, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link

A government scientist and his attractive counterpart try to save people from deadly

i've read enough i'm in

hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link

deadly buzz

Luigi Nono, le petit robot (seandalai), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 15:44 (ten years ago) link

DADDY: FUCK OFF

seems legit.

(This is great though. Where did you find this?)

gyac, Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:02 (ten years ago) link

what is this

Victims’ tears deter rodent paedophiles (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link

srsly

Victims’ tears deter rodent paedophiles (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:07 (ten years ago) link

got bored after everyone died

Victims’ tears deter rodent paedophiles (darraghmac), Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:07 (ten years ago) link

It's not terribly deep but still, wtf?

Ma mère est habile Mais ma bile est amère (Michael White), Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link

deems m8 what were your impressions the first time you saw england

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:04 (ten years ago) link

"at least the motorways are built properly"

pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:08 (ten years ago) link

ireland has very few motorways but there's nothing wrong with them in material terms

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 23:10 (ten years ago) link


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