― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Sunday, 4 September 2005 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link
Inside Van Der Graaf Generator (2005) Progressive rock pioneers Van Der Graaf Generator opened doors for groups including Genesis and Pink Floyd and remains one of the most influential yet unappreciated bands of the genre. This inside look features rare archival performance footage, plus critical reviews and in-depth analysis of the band by former Van der Graaf members Judge Smith, Nic Potter and David Jackson, as well as a team of prominent music critics and rock journalists.
Van Der Graaf Generator: Godbluff Live (2004) Recorded on September 27th, 1975, prog rock legends Van Der Graaf Generator take to the stage to deliver some astounding rock sounds. Recorded on a tour of France, the show concentrates on the "Godbluff" album.
― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Sunday, 4 September 2005 17:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 4 September 2005 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link
And on a side note, I have a VHS of a VDGG tribute band called Van Der Graf Jr. that was shot at Barnsdall Park's auditorium, where today's Arthurfest is occuring.
― nickn (nickn), Sunday, 4 September 2005 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Monday, 19 September 2005 11:13 (eighteen years ago) link
No Americanization just a sweeter bulk import deal, according to Artist-shop. I'll be sitting next to Phil in the waiting room.
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― Shadow of the Waxwing (noodle vague), Saturday, 17 June 2006 10:32 (seventeen years ago) link
I remember being really disappointed with VDGG after reading a rave about Pawn Hearts, the music just sounded ridiculously bombastic and too 'prog' for my ears at the time, then I suddenly had some kind of epiphany and love the whole thing - I don't think there's a bad moment on the album. My second fave is The Least We Can Do Is Talk to Each Other - those last doom-as-fuck organ chords in the coda to White Hammer!!!
― Rombald (rombald), Saturday, 17 June 2006 11:21 (seventeen years ago) link
Start with "Least We Can Do...", then buy "H To He", then you get "Pawn Hearts" (all re-mastered editions)...then "Silent Corner & The Empty Stage", "In Camera", "Nadir's", "Over", "The Future Now", "ph7" (all not-yet re-mastered).
― So Ho La (So Ho La), Saturday, 17 June 2006 12:16 (seventeen years ago) link
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― Shadow of the Waxwing (noodle vague), Saturday, 17 June 2006 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link
Thank you.
― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 00:42 (seventeen years ago) link
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― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 01:04 (seventeen years ago) link
is usually the best place to check for news.
LJ i am drunkenly flailing at emails. eventually one might get thru.
― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 01:07 (seventeen years ago) link
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― Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 02:27 (seventeen years ago) link
*promises to listen to NMTBHTSP after VdGG*
― Obvious Ninja (Haberdager), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 02:40 (seventeen years ago) link
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― Marco Damiani (Marco D.), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 06:34 (seventeen years ago) link
Nadir's Big Chance is great - if his other solo albums are similar it's about time I gave them a try as well. *mental note to get on SoulSeek tonight...
― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 06:53 (seventeen years ago) link
They aren't
― dud Hab 'C' dEva (Dada), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 08:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 08:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― I Supersize Disaster (noodle vague), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 09:16 (seventeen years ago) link
The three albums after Fool's Mate were due for a re-issue and then yanked from schedule for some reason - I'm quite sure I saw them advertised in a mag along with one batch of VDGG re-issues, but then nothing. I have seen promo copies of the remasters with bonus tracks on eBay, minus the finished artwork.
― LC (Damian), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 11:30 (seventeen years ago) link
Anybody care to rank his solo stuff?
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― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 23 March 2007 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link
That Gentle Giant album "Three Friends" sounds like a pretty normal mundane story.
― Bulky Pee Pants (Tom D.), Sunday, 14 January 2024 16:59 (three months ago) link
it is about a gay ogre orgy
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 14 January 2024 17:59 (three months ago) link
Troll Throuple
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Sunday, 14 January 2024 18:00 (three months ago) link
I get what you're saying but I think you have to separate queerness from sexuality somehow, because prog music is pretty nonsexual as a whole to me. and when it does get horny it always comes off very weird. imo "Ladies of the Road" is worse than just a filler track, it almost ruins the band's entire image (though tbf Crimson was kind of falling apart there anyway). its not just a sex thing either, when prog bands sing about any sort of normal thing (see Triumvirat's concept album about getting laid off at the factory) it just comes off strange to methere is a modern prog band called The Tangent that sorta pulls it off though, mainly because you just know the dude is an IT worker doing this in his spare time― frogbs
there is a modern prog band called The Tangent that sorta pulls it off though, mainly because you just know the dude is an IT worker doing this in his spare time
― frogbs
King Crimson's image is really interesting to me! I think they're a very... like not musically complex, but _personally_ complex band. The image of King Crimson often doesn't accord with the reality. That's what I found so fascinating about the recent King Crimson documentary. It really delves into that.
This idea of King Crimson as this non-sexual, intellectual, cerebral band is, as far as I can tell, completely divorced from the reality. The impression I get from Fripp's statements about this period is that he was pretty much a huge slut. "Ladies of the Road" isn't even their first paean to groupies - "Cadence and Cascade" is also on that theme. In the "Larks' Tongues in Aspic" period there were a fair few references to analingus, as well.
I definitely do... I mean I don't differentiate queerness from sexuality in an _absolute_ sense. My gender identity isn't the same thing as my sexual identity. (My sexual identity is one that I've seen described as "WTFSexual", as in "What even is sex?" I'm not asking that ironically. I genuinely do not know what "sex" is supposed to be.)
I guess when I talk about queerness and the lack thereof I look at it kind of along the same lines as Natalie Reed's "Null HypotheCis". The default reading for me of prog isn't asexual or non-gendered. It's cisgender, heterosexual music, whether it's _explicitly_ sexual or not. There are a lot of implicit assumptions in there, things that aren't even noticeable to cishets but just don't track with my own experience and understanding. I mean, look, I don't want to get too sociologist here, but the music of, say, Magma, which is propulsive, repetitive music that drives towards an explosive finale... I'll just say that it _parallels_ normative cis male sexuality. I understand the appeal of that kind of sex. It's not the way I do things. That's not to say that Magma's music is explicitly sexual music or that music is all about sex or whatever whatever. There's just a level of resonance with cis male sexuality that's just _there_, it's congruent in a way where the presence or absence of congruence isn't even a question. And to me, I feel that incongruence pretty strongly.
A lot of what I like about prog rock is what I've seen referred to as "padding", as being "aimless". King Crimson talks of their name being evocative of a "man with an aim". I'm a woman and to the extent that I have an aim, it's mostly to live in and embody the moment. (Which, actually, is King Crimson's aim too... we get along a lot better than the name might suggest!)
Prog rock songs can be very long and while they do tend to eventually get where they're going, it's a long, often scenic trip. They don't get in and out within two minutes. Which, again, I'm not condemning. I think that's pretty cool, having that quick hardcore blast of energy. When I think about myself, how I express myself, that's not how I do things. If I arrive at a conclusion at all, it's almost by accident. That's the feeling I get from my favorite prog - oh, that actually makes sense? I didn't expect that to make sense, I thought we were just wandering around aimlessly. When I do stuff that's... _maybe_ sex? Anyway, that's kind of how I go about things. I'm very fond of the "fuck around and find out" approach.
And there's a sort of tension between that sort of structural _queerness_ I find in prog with the way so much of it is cishet coded. That's kind of what I mean when I talk about music not being queer, I don't necessarily mean explicitly, I mean sometimes people's queerness informs their work, the way cishet people's cishet-ness informs their work. Honestly maybe that's why Palmer's album disappointed me... it's missing any kind of implicit sense of gender or sexual identity whatsoever. It's just kind of _there_.
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― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm)
six of one, half a dozen of the other
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