ILM is kinda sucking these days (boring and meta ignore not safe for work)

I see less and less ILX'ors being primarily indie-rock fans, but maybe that's just my misimpression.

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oh god-x-post-fucking-damn-it

to me, whatever.

The sentiment in this thread-title is one I myself have been espousing, hence my recent attempt to bump a load of "interesting" threads. Didn't really work out.

JGO I will Paypal you five bucks if you harsh on the next dumbass Lorax post like that again, that was a beauty to behold.

i mean ffs that dude deserves my vocabulary

Link?

lorax behaves like a dicksleeve: if someone tells you that they like *the homosexuals*, what current group/artist would you tell them to check out?

where it was all hatched: The Resonant Frequency #57: Perfect World POLL - "Perfect songs are hard to find; here are 12 to start with."

i think that thread was the nadir

see, I like the polls, because I don't see much discussion on non-poll threads, and they get conversations started. I don't see how having polls makes OTHER threads suck more.

on the other hand I agree that ILM has been boring lately. I've been using site new answers instead of just loading ILM and it's opened up a whole other message board of (sometimes) fun. I rarely even read ILE before site new answers. So I think a lot of the blame should rest on site new answers.

I also agree with the comment above that posts like IMs have taken some of the vitality away, but I don't think that's the only thing going on.

I mean I still post to the poll threads but in doing so I'm just as guilty of lazy posting as anyone else.

Polls are retarded.

Polls are stupid if you think you gain anything "objective" from the final result, but as a way of focusing attention, they can help focus a thread. Not every thread needs that focus, but why not let a thousand flowers bloom? Unless there's an argument that polls cause all the other flowers to wilt, which I don't see.

this has been a really great year for albums-- indie esp. so it doesn't surprise me that ILM's been a snooze

polls are fun! if you don't like bowie don't click on the bowie poll threads! if you like bowie click on the bowie poll threads! what's the big deal?

it ruins the mood

IN BED

wait, that actually kind of made sense

i think the only unworthy threads are ones that splinter discussion among threads. everything else i could care less about. i mean it takes me what 0.2 seconds to decide if i wanna click on a thread or poll or not? idk

wait, that actually kind of made sense

Always.

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see, I think that's what polls do. they replace a thread revival and subsequent new discussion with a bunch of discussion by people who never read any of the related non-poll threads, so 1. stuff gets repeated and 2. the people from the orig thread don't have much incentive to say anything besides going "uh, we talked about this already when we did that "OPO Pink Floyd album" thread."

What sleeve said there -- part of the problem is a temporal one. Points of view can and do change, and people say or project things that they don't think later on, or that they would heavily rewrite or reconsider. This would seem to be a reason to do 'new' threads via the polls, but the flipside is that there's a valuable tension to be found in those older judgments versus the newer ones, in one place.

I hate to be mr. we already had this thread eighteen bazillion times person but, uh, there I go.

I hop back and forth. at various points in the past x years I have been bored/disgusted with basically every board here that I've ever posted to, ILM probably moreso than the others since it's so dependent on 1. new releases 2. new beefs 3. new posters to talk shit with - it's both the most vibrant/active and the most inconsistent of all the boards, blessing curse yada yada [ heavy-handed aspie modding ]

Polls are terrible. You can hide them, but that's not the problem. They are like black holes for conversation.

hey! there's been a bunch of poll threads with great discussion going on. see the Ride - Nowhere poll thread, that discussion was great, very fun to read.

They are like black holes for conversation.

yeah i don't see how a "POO: Prince single" from 3-4 years ago is any better/worse/different than "POLL: Best Prince single" so it's probably the quality of the posters in whatever thread you're thinking of not the poll form itself

see the Ride - Nowhere poll thread, that discussion was great, very fun to read

one of the better thread bimblifications, yeah

although dude you were responsible for that shoddy "12 perfect songs" p-fork dick-suck so in a way you are responsible for ILM being crap

responding to sleeve: yeah, I see what you're saying. I don't revive many old threads or read through the archive much, so I just respond to threads others have started or revived. I'd generally like to talk about older stuff, because I don't have much cash to spend on newer stuff and I don't get promos. But the liveliest / brainiest / whatever threads are mostly about newer stuff, so I mostly have to sit them out. I'm also under the impression the things I like have either been talked to death (e.g. Stones, New Order, JAMC) or are not well-regarded here (e.g. REM, Keith Whitley, the Judds) and so aren't likely to make ILM less boring if I got all thready with them.

" so it's probably the quality of the posters in whatever thread you're thinking of not the poll form itself"

yeah, it's the old generation was better routine

can we at least all agree that ILM has improved since geir hongro stopped making polls

polls are fun! if you don't like bowie don't click on the bowie poll threads! if you like bowie click on the bowie poll threads! what's the big deal?

-- J0rdan S.,

why cant more people here think like this kid? (in bed)

<3 u j0rdan

xp wait NO

here is a next level thread:

Hide Geir Hongro Polls

But even if you ignore the poll threads, I wish there were more people posting here. There are only a handful of people who contribute to the Rolling ringtone rap thread, and another small handful to the country one, and likewise for the r'n'b thread, and d-bags jazz one, and even less than that for the whirrled music one and the reggaeton one and the chitlin circuit soul one...

We need more bold, proactive posting about musical theory and critical analysis. My two cents. Well, two more.

challop

Euler, you definitely have my unneeded permission to start a Keith Whitley thread.

polls are fun and blaming polls makes no sense

I'm scared of ILM.

Oh my gosh but I ran into the thicket anyways.

i'm always in for a tough time trying to find something engaging, because i always consciously scroll through the hip hop threads of which there are always about 60 on the main page.

so it's probably the quality of the posters in whatever thread you're thinking of not the poll form itself

I see what you're saying but part of my point is that reviving those quality posts would perhaps spur better discussion than starting over from ground zero.

i'm always in for a tough time trying to find something engaging, because i always consciously scroll through the hip hop threads of which there are always about 60 on the main page.

-- Charlie Howard, Wednesday, June 4, 2008 11:37 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

;_;

i think the "rolling" threads suck too. they might have tons of info on new stuff, but i never go into them. there's just too much info. you miss them for a second and you're lost. i liked it better when people would start threads on individual songs or albums. whatevs.

but you might find this (waxidermy) more your speed in your darker msg board moments.
-- sanskrit, Thursday, June 5, 2008 1:52 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

i tried to register a week or 2 back and they said they weren't accepting any new applicants. emailed them and they never responded. weak

the dermy is cool. also, co- sign xpost.

as a new ilm'er

a) you guys have already pointed me to loads of new (to me) music, so to me this place doesn't suck yet

b) it is a bit intimidating at times though - not so much that i fear getting flamed for saying something uncool, but that you all seem to refer to each other by first names that don't match your screen names, so it seems a bit insider-y, and i can't always follow the conversational thread - "as to what mark said, fred's much more otm and sarah - loved those photos!" who the hell is mark and fred?!?!? what photos?!?!? stop trying to be cool, you're just members of an internet forum ffs - it's pretty much a given we're all just geeks here, so stop pretending knowing "if assholes could fly this place would be an airport"'s real name makes you cool somehow, would ya? it would make conversational threads easier to follow for us newbies anyway :)

c) the reviews do tend to be a bit one-linery. i've copied this style so far just to fit in like (being new here and all) but at times it seems a bit content-low. is a multiple-sentance paragraph too much to ask for?

d) the polls are ok i guess, but i agree they tend to be a bit limiting - i mean, i'd rather hear WHY i should be interested in an old thomas dolby album (it is just nostalgia, or is this stuff actually that still that good 20 years later?) than which song on the album is best.

but, you know, whatever - overall i personally like this place (my new timewaster!) - it's worth it for the music recommendations and occasional witty one-liners.

though this britney obsession is a bit worrying.

I really don't see what the fucking problem is calling people by their real names.

That was @ stop trying to be cool... comment

like who cares if i call black beyonce "john" ffs.

now now mark

haha I was just wondering about BLACK BEYONCE, hadn't seen that one before.

xpost to new person: a lot of those names aren't "real" names, they are older usernames that people just got in the habit of using, e.g. I would maybe call electricsound "esoj".

i never get that warm fuzzy thrill if someone calls me 'charlie'

"I really don't see what the fucking problem is calling people by their real names."

the problem is that only those who already know everyone on a first name basis can follow the conversation. thus new members are discouraged from joining the thread. just saying.

the "stop trying to be cool" thing was a bit tongue-in-cheek - thus the emoticon at the end of the paragraph. please don't take it personally.

:)

kale bush tits

personally I recoil from my own posts

lads

there are definitely cliques on ilx, and certain users only read certain users

i'm sure i'm no different than the rest, and there are many posters i don't bother reading (recoil from/hate/drive me crazy are all too harsh and don't apply to me)

― F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, September 9, 2016 2:13 PM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I figure I don't get read much.

Even when ILX isn't entertaining I still lurk, mostly due to not knowing where else to go on the internet. I don't use social media really.

personally I recoil from my own posts

― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Friday, September 9, 2016 3:57 PM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just confirmed this