RFI: What is Dadrock?

You're joking! Mostly, it's the sound of a decent talent reduced to nowt - desparately trying to toady up to what was left of the Brit- pop crowd. 'Streets of Kenny' is particularly shameful - Head wallowing in his own self-made mire of underachievement and waste. Shocking.

Eh, no, actually, I'm not. Brilliant songs. Hugely emotional. Sad, yet optimistic. Battered but triumphant. I love it! Dadrock or otherwise!

But the good doctor has diagnosed you. Why do you not heed his words?

As it is, I'd rather listen to the Pale Fountains.

Cos he's wrong. I heart Shack 4eva!

"For some reason, "focuses heavily on songwriting" doesn't sound like a problem to me, but "display of songwriting" does. This might be from the hearing the Shack album and finding it kind of boring in a self-satisfied way."

The phrase "best display of song-writing" just means that the album's full of top tunes. Which makes me want to play it endlessly, so I do. Its not slf-satisfied, either, its moving and powerful.

Why bother? We all know Shack will win.

Wouldn't know, don't have the Strands record. All I know is I love HMS Fable

"And I've had Waterpistol for years."

Good for you, never said you didn't.

There's only two tracks on HMS Fable thatI woudln't want to be without, and they're both John's rather than Michael's. Waterpistol is less immediate than HMS Fable, but more consistent, and has had greater longevity for me. The Strands album is just gorgeous though, stripped down, acoustic, folky and delicate. Something About You is one of my favourite singles of the last ten years.

I think mumpop is quite a fun idea, actually. St Etienne with their Dusty/70sMOR/girlgroup fetish are a good example. Actually mumpop is a good term for all those PSB/MarcAlmond/Smiths records reviving a Dusty/Pitney/Sandie.

Dad Rock = insufficiently Oedipal. mumpop = extravagantly so.

this is a good thread. british-centric, though. are bands like wilco, white stripes, strokes, etc dadrock?

It's funny what you think is "Dad rock". I suppose it's how old your dad is. I think of it as seventies.

no, my dad is dad-aged. but dad rock doesn't have to be made by actual dads.

this is a good thread. british-centric, though. are bands like wilco, white stripes, strokes, etc dadrock?

I guess Wilco. Not White Stripes or The Strokes.

I think a band can be "dadrock" if it is (a) especially influenced by 70s-sounding classic-rock or country-rock and/or (b) overly-controlled or polite. Wilco falls into both categories. The others less so (White Stripes have too much rock energy; The Strokes too much of a snotty attitude). Having said that, I love Wilco, especially their last -- and especially "dadrock" sounding -- disc, Sky Blue Sky, while I'm ambivalent about The White Stripes and couldn't care less about The Strokes. I'm also a dad in my early 40s, so I have plenty of "dadrock" bona fides.

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My dad seems to like Fleet Foxes. Not sure if they're what I'd typically think of as dad rock but he heard it on Radio 2, who are probably one of the gatekeepers of what is/isn't.

dadrock never went away

i like 'dadrock' now because its 'cool' to listen to it 'ironically' as a 'young man' but worry that it wont be 'cool' for me to listen to 'dadrock' when im actually a 'dad'

advice please

I wonder what Stepdadrock sounds like

i think that once you're actually a dad it's impossible for you to be cool, no matter what you listen to

As a dad, I can say with absolute certainty that the litmus test for dadrock-entry is Animal Collective. If you love them and think everything they do is genius you're still hip. If you don't quite get what the fuss is about, welcome to the wonderful world of dadrock.

is there any mumrock (apart from Bon Jovi) ?

As a dad, I can say with absolute certainty that the litmus test for dadrock-entry is Animal Collective. If you love them and think everything they do is genius you're still hip. If you don't quite get what the fuss is about, welcome to the wonderful world of dadrock.

if hating animal collective is wrong I don't want to be right

Múm Rock

As a dad, I can say with absolute certainty that the litmus test for dadrock-entry is Animal Collective. If you love them and think everything they do is genius you're still hip. If you don't quite get what the fuss is about, welcome to the wonderful world of dadrock.

Aren't they exactly the sort of band an ageing ex-indie hipster who's now a dad in his mid-to-late 30s, or older, would listen to

if hating animal collective is wrong I don't want to be right

FTW

Aren't they exactly the sort of band an ageing ex-indie hipster who's now a dad in his mid-to-late 30s, or older, would listen to

They're exactly the sort of band an aging ex-indie hipster who's now a dad would feel they're supposed to like if they were still cool. And despite having given them a fair chance and even enjoying an EP's worth of material, they just don't get it.

Another sign of dadrock-entry: You can't tell all the various "Wolf" or "Mountain" bands apart and you don't really care.

You can't tell all the various "Wolf" or "Mountain" bands apart and you don't really care.

ha ! you have me totally summed up in one easy to remember sentence.

lol this is some weird definitions of dadrock

why not just make it 'you dont get all yr music from mp3 blogs'

I know a couple of 30-something dudes who like Animal Collective. I don't feel uncool in the slightest for thinking they're turd.

Ed III, Ned, Southall OTMFM

coolness was never an option in my world, before or after i became a dad, but i now feel very bad that i never listened to my promo of 'sung tongs' all the way through.

Fuck, I know a 50-something mum who likes them, and it was one of the 30-something blokes who got her into them.

She asked Em if we were going to see The Hold Steady the other day. (She's Em's section head at work.)

Sung Tongs is better than the last two.

I guess The Lex's AC h8r posts were just subliminally pimping the dadrock he lives and loves all along then

Having said that, I love Wilco, especially their last -- and especially "dadrock" sounding -- disc, Sky Blue Sky

tis a really good disc and i actually first heard this through my dad who said something along the lines of "wilco are kinda the only game in town for us old timers".

well, dad, for one

And Rock for another.

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dad and rock and snrub and geir.

depressing that what was dadrock only 9 years ago is firmly grandadrock now

There is no dad side of the rock; it's all dad, actually.