TOTO "africa" classic or dud

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Funny thing about the Thriller connection--when I first heard JoJo's "Anything," which samples "Africa" (to answer someone's question above) (and which I like much better than "Africa" because it's JoJo singing), I thought it was a sample of MJ's "Human Nature."

sw00ds, Monday, 23 April 2007 12:44 (sixteen years ago) link

"Thriller" was backed by what was called the "LA Studio Mafia" at the time, which featured part of Toto, but also several other musicians. Greg Phillicanes, Michael Boddicker and Gary Grant were never members of Toto, and for instance "Billie Jean" didn't feature one single Toto member in its lineup.

Geir Hongro, Monday, 23 April 2007 12:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Jeff Porcaro died in a bizarre gardening accident.

sw00ds, Monday, 23 April 2007 12:53 (sixteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

One of the ten best songs ever.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 20 December 2007 10:38 (sixteen years ago) link

It's true -- it's all about that chorus.

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 20 December 2007 14:00 (sixteen years ago) link

(although saying it's one of the ten best songs ever is a bit over the top).

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 20 December 2007 14:01 (sixteen years ago) link

It's not even the best song on the new Singstar Rock Ballads. And singing along to it really does hammer home just how ridiculous the lyrics in the verses are.

ledge, Thursday, 20 December 2007 15:14 (sixteen years ago) link

LIGHTNING IN A BOTTLE>

artdamages, Thursday, 20 December 2007 16:59 (sixteen years ago) link

this song has done more for africa than bono ever will

artdamages, Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:00 (sixteen years ago) link

I almost said classic, then I realized that the song in my head was Phil Collins' "Take Me Home". This is somewhere in between c and d.

The Reverend, Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

ok, ill just go ahead and retract that. this thread shouldn't have to be tainted by bono.

artdamages, Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

(xpost)

artdamages, Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

wait, toto did the soundtrack to dune????

artdamages, Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I still like "Roseanna" better.

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Georgie porgy is one of the 10 best songs ever

jaxon, Thursday, 20 December 2007 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link

saying you like "Roseanna" better is indefensible

artdamages, Thursday, 20 December 2007 18:09 (sixteen years ago) link

nuh uh, it's got that sick jeff porcaro beat!

Jordan, Thursday, 20 December 2007 18:11 (sixteen years ago) link

wait, toto did the soundtrack to dune????

Yeah, that is a bit of a mind-blower. Fuck was David Lynch thinking?

Alex in NYC, Thursday, 20 December 2007 19:11 (sixteen years ago) link

can't believe such serious discourse over the band that proclaimed "you supply the night, I'll supply the love"...the cover of the Hydra LP pretty much says it all...bleh...

henry s, Thursday, 20 December 2007 19:51 (sixteen years ago) link

I actually got temporarily excited when I recently found out Toto did the Dune score -- anticipating an extended Yamaha CS-80 workout. Sadly, it's entirely orchestrated but for a few demos they tacked on to a recent reissue of the record.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 20 December 2007 20:03 (sixteen years ago) link

songwriting - classic
productio - 80's dud

Zeno, Thursday, 20 December 2007 20:22 (sixteen years ago) link

i agree, pleasant plains, that that is indefensible. but tell me, are you familiar with the stray "turkey gobble" in "roseanna"? anyone know what i'm talking about? it fascinated me as a kid.

that rune lindbaek africa edit/rework thing is pretty hot.

andrew m., Thursday, 20 December 2007 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link

that "africa" beat was wasted on jojo, jadakiss would've been perfect over that.

pc user, Thursday, 20 December 2007 21:17 (sixteen years ago) link

This song is amazing.

HI DERE, Thursday, 20 December 2007 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I know nothing about this turkey gobble, andrew.

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 20 December 2007 21:19 (sixteen years ago) link

turkey gobble: listen close during the quiet part before they bust out the big finale "meet you all the way!" bit. i think it appears after he quietly sings "now she's gone..."

andrew m., Thursday, 20 December 2007 21:35 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm sure you have it handy. get back with us on that quicklike.

andrew m., Thursday, 20 December 2007 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link

What the hell? Are you talking about the 3:34 mark? How did you even catch that?

Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 20 December 2007 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link

PATRICK SWAYZE!!

jaxon, Thursday, 20 December 2007 21:55 (sixteen years ago) link

xp
that's it! just latched onto it as a kid i guess.

andrew m., Thursday, 20 December 2007 22:51 (sixteen years ago) link

HURRY BOY SHE'S WAITING THERE FOR YOOOOOOOOOOOOO

El Tomboto, Thursday, 20 December 2007 22:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Um, that's a bgd singer going, "Ooh, oooh!!!"

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 20 December 2007 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link

or the guitarist rubbing the strings a bit--same tone

sexyDancer, Thursday, 20 December 2007 23:18 (sixteen years ago) link

does anyone else mis-remember the lyrics as featuring the line

"I passed the rains down in Africa"

?

The Real Dirty Vicar, Friday, 21 December 2007 00:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Wait a minute, you suspect that it's not really a TURKEY GOBBLING? Get out of here!

Pleasant Plains, Friday, 21 December 2007 00:22 (sixteen years ago) link

So classic I paid a quarter for the cassette only to discover that it's unlistenable dreck past "Africa" and "Rosanna." I think the clunky insertion of the word "Serengeti" is part of this song's charm.

I feel like if you were going to suddenly surprise people by blurting out part of a pop song from this period "FRIGHTENED BY THIS THING THAT I'VE BECOME!" would be a top-notch choice.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 21 December 2007 01:39 (sixteen years ago) link

the key of dreams version w/ the vocoder is super-ace, too!!

max, Friday, 21 December 2007 02:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Jeff Porcaro died in a bizarre gardening accident.

No he didn't. He dropped dead of a cocaine overdose while mowing his lawn.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 21 December 2007 04:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Explain the cover-up for us, Naive Teen Idol.

Pleasant Plains, Friday, 21 December 2007 04:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Africa? classic.

Toto? Huge motherfucking dud.

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Friday, 21 December 2007 05:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Explain the cover-up for us, Naive Teen Idol.

-- Pleasant Plains

Hahahahah!

Me, I like "Africa" fine, but "Georgie Porgie" was their peak. (They shoulda made Cheryl Lynn their fulltime singer)

Myonga Vön Bontee, Friday, 21 December 2007 05:57 (sixteen years ago) link

oh man i just remembered. as a kid i misheard the chorus as "there's nothing that a hundred men on mars could ever do." with my powerful 3rd-grade intellect, i figured they meant that what with mars' gravity being different and all, a man maybe could lift much greater weights on the surface of mars. and it would take over 100 men lifting great weights on the surface of mars to keep me away from this special lady down in africa! how romantic!

andrew m., Friday, 21 December 2007 15:56 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fe11OlMiz8

jaymc, Friday, 21 December 2007 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link

"there's nothing that a hundred men on mars could ever do."

You mean that isn't the chorus?

Pleasant Plains, Friday, 21 December 2007 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link

the chorus is catchy but kinda generic

UTTERLY preposterous

Savannah Smiles, Friday, 21 December 2007 16:59 (sixteen years ago) link

It's been nearly three years since I last saw the video (upthread!) and I think I finally understand it ... Mr. Toto is trying to hunt down the warrior guy, but before he can positively identify him through piecing together the picture in the book, the warrior hunts *him* down (he carries exactly the same shield as the one in the book) and the evidence is burned. An African librarian observes everything and her glasses get rained on, which is supposed to be ironic or whatever.

STILL one of the best songs ever.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 21 December 2007 17:14 (sixteen years ago) link

...nd her glasses get rained on...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2292/2081138864_5675a12dfb.jpg?v=0

andrew m., Friday, 21 December 2007 17:45 (sixteen years ago) link

That's right.

jaymc, Friday, 21 December 2007 17:49 (sixteen years ago) link

i also thought he sang "i guess the rain's down in africa." like out of resignation. well, i guess the rain's down in africa. so it goes.

andrew m., Friday, 21 December 2007 19:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Not to be a wet blanket or anything, but the lyrics to this song are not exactly hard to discern. And I, too, was a kid when it came out.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 21 December 2007 19:51 (sixteen years ago) link

https://youtu.be/unN7QvSWSTo

calstars, Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:38 (four years ago) link

ECCOJAMZ

calstars, Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:39 (four years ago) link

Original content

calstars, Sunday, 20 October 2019 04:39 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

Lol at Steve’s wristbands in the video

calstars, Thursday, 6 April 2023 22:56 (one year ago) link

wristband close up

calstars, Thursday, 6 April 2023 22:57 (one year ago) link


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