what's the best Rush album?

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oh Alfred, you big iconoclast you!

Another admirable aspect of Chronicles, for both casual and fanatical Rush fans: It contains NOTHING that isn't on any of their other LPs, i.e. nothing to entice superfans into buying all that stuff they already have just for a single new song or two. Ya gotta respect that, even if it is a moot point in these days of file-sharing.)

Haha -- you know what, this isn't exactly entirely true! When they first coverted the Rush catalog to Compact Disc, they left off a song from each of the first two live double LPs, All the World's A Stage ("What You're Doing") and Exit Stage Left ("A Passage to Bangkok"), in order to fit each of them onto a single CD. Then when Chronicles came out they put those two songs on there.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I like Neil Peart and I like Mo Tucker. I don't think Paul Cook was that great, to be honest. Liking one doesn't have to mean you can't like the other.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:09 (nineteen years ago) link

...(afterthought)...Exit Stage Left shoulda been a great live showcase for the 1977-81 era (and maybe it is), but my recollection is of a mix too muddy and bass-dominated to be of much enjoyment, altho maybe that was just the cassette I owned. And as for All The World's A Stage, my cousin's husband attended that concert, and swears that he & his friends can be heard yelling something during "Lakeside Park". (Their neighbourhood being in the vicinity of the actual park itself.)

And even though I can still get some enjoyment out of (old) Rush, I empathize with Alfred 100%: Rush fans who play instruments can be some of the most obnoxious fans of any band you'll ever meet.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I like Hemispheres the best but not because of the naked man pointing to the Magritte guy. But that album cover certainly contributed to my father's "wtf" attitude towards Rush, and me.

I was among the young rockers who thought they sold out a little with "Tom Sawyer" and stuff like that. I thought the same about Styx too when they started getting played on KISS-FM. I was such a purist then, I'm younger than that now.

The Obligatory Sourpuss (Begs2Differ), Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link

"Rush fans who play instruments" surely = the members of Dream Theater?

Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I hear ya, Alfred and MVB, you will get many a Rush fan going on and on about the ability of Neil Peart, etc, and I agree it's tiresome. But I don't think that all that takes away from the band's enthusiasm. Rush sounds very enthusiastic and honest to me. You're telling me Geddy Lee doesn't have enthusiasm when he screams "OF SALESMEN!"?

Hell, Exit Stage Left is one of the most enthusiastic live albums I have ever heard. And I don't just mean that it's loud or fast or anything like that. I mean it sure sounds like the band is really BEHIND what they're doing, that it means something to them and they are having a fucking blast.

(compare this enthusiasm to, say, some Steve Vai records or Killroy Was Here, and I think you can see the stark contrast).

I sat next to a hardcore rush fan at a brekafast counter a couple of months ago. Dude had a huge 2112 tatoo on his upper arm. I had never met anyone like him; he was willing to explain, in great detail, why every Rush album was great, IN ITS ENTIRETY. He even defended the rapping on Roll the Bones. It was awesome. He was also really nice about it and not obnoxious at all.

Scott CE (Scott CE), Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link

'Working Man' is a fucking slab of Rock. Where are you now, John Rutsey?

mookieproof (mookieproof), Thursday, 3 February 2005 18:31 (nineteen years ago) link

As a rule, compilations really shouldn't count — nor should live albums. But I'm going to go with Exit...Stage Left (and let's note the ellipsis, okay?) primarily because we're talking about a group that, for all its crimes against taste, sequenced this record brilliantly. Plus, the versions of "Jacob's Ladder" and the "Trees"-"Xanadu" seriously improve on the originals. Of course, I haven't heard it in at least a decade, so...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 3 February 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link

This thread has given me an urge to listen to A LOT of Rush. Something I wasn't expecting, almost wtf, why am i playing all these albums! The strangest thing is nothing else will suffice. My conclusion: Rush are untouchably great, questionable taste and lyrics and all.

Oh and Moving Pictures still sounds like the BEST. But Signals is the surprise album I thought I didn't really like, but is now kicking my arse. And a friend is bringing over Power Windows on the wkend. It's a good week.

PiersT, Friday, 4 February 2005 01:20 (nineteen years ago) link

For those about to Rush, we salute you?

Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 4 February 2005 05:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay, okay, Rush and Roll etc. Don't want to derail the thread, here.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 4 February 2005 05:47 (nineteen years ago) link

thirteen years pass...

presto may not be the best RUSH album but i'd swear it's the most underrated

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 14 May 2018 18:31 (five years ago) link

I like Presto, but for me the answer to this is all the albums from 1976 to 1985.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 14 May 2018 18:42 (five years ago) link

I said it on one of the other threads, but I think it may have the band's best songwriting, with the playing supporting the song, as opposed to the playing/sound/arrangements being the focus. It's almost an experiment, how pared down it is.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 May 2018 18:42 (five years ago) link

Presto is my favorite Rush album. Their best is Rush In Rio.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 14 May 2018 18:46 (five years ago) link

Not sure I agree with that: 'Fly by Night', 'Beneath, Between and Behind', 'Lessons', 'Something For Nothing', 'Closer to the Heart', 'The Spirit of Radio', 'New World Man' etc. are all fine examples of the playing supporting the song.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 14 May 2018 18:48 (five years ago) link

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Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 14 May 2018 18:48 (five years ago) link

In fact, even on stuff like 'Red Barchetta' and 'The Analog Kid', the song is pretty much the focus.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 14 May 2018 18:49 (five years ago) link

We're talking about an album, goofball. Not individual tracks. I think start to finish, as an album, that Presto sounds very songwriter-y, emphasized even more by the sound of the record being so relatively spare and subdued.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 May 2018 19:10 (five years ago) link

You said - and the post is above - that you think Presto may have the bands best songwriting. I disagree, as there are examples of better songwriting from them elsewhere.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Monday, 14 May 2018 19:20 (five years ago) link

I meant Presto the album. Start to finish. Not that Presto particularly features songs that exemplify the band's best songwriting - plenty of Rush albums have songs that exemplify good songwriting (in the guy in a coffee shop with guitar sense) - but that stylistically the album, as a whole, of a piece, feels very much like this. Just very straight forward. Nothing else they've done is this stripped down and subdued. Even Show Don't Tell, the busiest track on here, is kind of chill.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 May 2018 20:03 (five years ago) link

"Grace Under Pressure" (along with Yes's "Drama") makes me wish that Disco-Prog (or, at least Post Punk Prog) would have become a real genre instead of a Kohoutek-like musical comet, arriving and departing without leaving a trace of influence. Then again, I could be wrong, and there might be hundreds of bands who build awesome songs upon the foundations provided by "Tempus Fugit" and "Between the Wheels".

Prefecture, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 01:05 (five years ago) link

Does that voice at the end of 2112 completely scare the piss out of anyone else? It's always given me chills ever since I was a kid and still does.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 15 May 2018 13:27 (five years ago) link


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