Lil Jon Needs To Fall Under A Truck

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I thought "crunk" was an adjective that implied "crowded, happenin' and hoppin'," as in "we're the type of people who make the club get crunk".

You tell me.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:58 (twenty years ago) link

crunk = crazy + drunk

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:59 (twenty years ago) link

I always heard heard it used to mean getting high.

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:00 (twenty years ago) link

happenin and hoppin!

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:00 (twenty years ago) link

I may be imagining this but I somehow remember a Conan O Brien skit where they were going to make up a new dirty word....and the word they came up with was "crunk"

Does anyone else remember this or am I just cr8zy?

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:06 (twenty years ago) link

Oddly, Onyx's great 1990 debut single "Ah And We Do It Like That" is one of the most country-sounding hip hop records ever; they even *talk* about being country in it. So yeah, proto-crunk for sure.

Lil Jon, according to Chris Weingarten who interviewed him a couple weeks ago, has apparently always been a big Dead Kennedys and Ramones fan. Which might in part explain the mosh pits at his concerts.

Sorry I didn't mention yr Bone Crusher piece, Sterling; I also left out Yancey Strickler on Killer Mike, Kandia Crazy Horse on Bubba Sparxxx, Tony Green on LOTS of stuff, etc. (I was only thinking the past month or two. But the Voice's crunk-consciousness is indeed nothing new.)

― chuck, Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:11 (twenty years ago) link

"We kind of call it 'black punk rock'," Jon says. You see the same reaction to rock bands. People jumping up and down the whole show, mosh pits, pushing and shoving. A lot of screaming and yelling."

(From Vibe.) (The pattern of every single music magazine article on new Southern rap-- Lil Jon is the crunk-is-the-future guy and then David Banner says 'Well, we aren't all about the crunk stuff' and then the T.I./Killer Mike/Youngbloodz interview. And then the sidebar explaining the slang.)

― d k (d k), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:18 (twenty years ago) link

"Ying-Yang Twins are the
Simon and Garfunkel of
crunk." --Matt Cibula.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:22 (twenty years ago) link

crunk = crazy + drunk

I guess that makes sense too.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

to be honest alex, your definition has supplanted all others for me

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

make that Simon and Garcrunkel.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:23 (twenty years ago) link

"History is Crunk!"

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:24 (twenty years ago) link

to be honest alex, your definition has supplanted all others for me

Much like Onyx, the Ink Spots are proto-crunk.

― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:31 (twenty years ago) link

I still maintain that
T.I.'s album Trap Muzik
is the best so far;

but it's not quite "crunk"
the way Lil Jon, Ying Yang are,
neither is Banner

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:43 (twenty years ago) link

Trap Muzik isn't crunk by any definition of the word. When that guy said it was the "southern Illmatic," he was pretty right on. It's tired and [another word] and mostly not in a really good way. It's not bad but it's pretty boring.

― d k (d k), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:53 (twenty years ago) link

No, it's not boring,
and no, it's not tired at all.
He's a great rapper.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:57 (twenty years ago) link

yah, Trap Muzik is pretty un-crunk. though you can still get crunk to it.

― Adrian (Adrian Langston), Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:03 (twenty years ago) link

Honestly, though, given their longstanding allegiance to post-planet-rock electro beats long after the West and East coasts abandoned them, 2 Live Crew and Tag Team and 95 South and the Quad City DJs and L'Trimm and Maggotron and the Hi-Town DJs were all probably way more proto-crunk than Onyx were. Just because Lil Jon's music has gang shouts in it doesn't mean gangshouts are the defining factor of crunk.

― chuck, Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:04 (twenty years ago) link

Trust me, Haikunym. I'll try to put this into indie rock terms for you. Okay, T.I. is like The Strokes of Southern rap. (UGK, Television.) Even if it's the best of the three rap CDs you bought this year and it appeals to people whose experience ended with New York rap/rockist touchstones, it's not that great and it's boring. I'm glad you enjoy it.

― d k (d k), Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:18 (twenty years ago) link

dk: stop being a choad

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:19 (twenty years ago) link

Okay. Sorry.

― d k (d k), Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:21 (twenty years ago) link

Oh yeah, and there was also the TNC piece on Banner, though I totally disagreed with him as usual, but in that good constructive sorta disagreeing way, also as usual.

also, from the "playahata.com" dictionary:

Crunk/Krunk: Slang, adj (1)To be enjoyable, usually in reference to a party. (2)to become excited and/or agitated. Primarily used in the Southern, United States.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:06 (twenty years ago) link

but crunk makes me think of crunchy and a trunk, like somebody is jumping up and down on a suitcase and it is making a crunchy noise.

or maybe like an elephant trunk noise.

or maybe crunchy and funk, or crass and a monk!

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:07 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.globalbeer.com/diverse/texts/Monk-with-Drink.jpg

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:08 (twenty years ago) link

the trunk of the Caddy where all the subwoofers are kept!

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:21 (twenty years ago) link

http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/103821/1.jpg

― d k (d k), Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:26 (twenty years ago) link

My first guess at the etymology of "crunk" was that it was a past-tense form of "crank" - e.g, if something has been cranked up as high as it can go, then it's crunk.

― o. nate (onate), Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:28 (twenty years ago) link

T.I. is like The Strokes of Southern rap.

meaning it's great! awesome! I'll go out and buy it right now!

― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:28 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, it also means the likelihood of his actually sounding like the MCs he's accused of ripping off is slim to none.

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:39 (twenty years ago) link

everyone thinks there strokes comparison is the best (everyone maybe right)

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:41 (twenty years ago) link

looking like Television /= sounding like Television

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:02 (twenty years ago) link

the strokes sound more like early blondie than television.

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:05 (twenty years ago) link

Some days I wish the Strokes were crunk

(stronk?)

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:06 (twenty years ago) link

Strunk

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:07 (twenty years ago) link

and White

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:08 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not mad, d k,
but I'd like to know why you
think I like the strokes

and why I hate rap
and why I am "indie-rock"...
oh, hell, never mind.

as a matter of fact, you can think whatever you want to about my musical tastes. here, I'll even float a link to my T.I. review in PopMatters so you can understand why I like that record and what I got out of it. I'm done here anyway. Shit like that. What the fuck.
http://www.popmatters.com/music/reviews/t/ti-trapmuzik.shtml

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:17 (twenty years ago) link

haikunym don't sweat the hatas! play it cool!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:18 (twenty years ago) link

I CAN'T STAND IT BLOUNT THEY'RE DRIVING ME MAD I TELL YOU LIKE W.C. AND HIS FUCKIN' CIRCLE

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:20 (twenty years ago) link

i spelled 'mad' wrong

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:21 (twenty years ago) link

hahahahahahhaha

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:36 (twenty years ago) link

Completely agree about TI, bad-ass! He's not crunk? Favorite song of the moment: Trill (sp?) Bill-Get On My Level. Total getting drunk & headbanging music...

― mayor motorcade (mayor motorcade), Friday, 12 December 2003 03:10 (twenty years ago) link

I remembered this weekend that, a few years ago, the Kentucky Headhunters had a country hit called "Dumas Walkers" or something, where they ordered "a slawburger and a bottle of ski." I had no idea what that meant until I saw Lil Jon explain after the "Get Low" video (where lady cops shoot super soakers at strippers, or something like that) that "ski ski ski ski ski" means, like, squirting stuff. So maybe the Headhunters' bottle of ski was in a seltzer bottle??

― chuck, Monday, 15 December 2003 17:12 (twenty years ago) link

Fascinating.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 December 2003 17:16 (twenty years ago) link

is this the same dk who told me illmatic was his favorite cd of all time? and then changed his mind and decided it was under construction? stop being such a bitch and playign like you hate on nyc lyrical standards when you never even been down south, youre a fucking CANADIAN. btw heres the ugly, overedited, blurb that started the comparison-- http://63.172.85.108/flagpole/FMPro?-db=reviews.fp5&-format=review2.htm&-lay=reviews&type=record&publish=yes&-op=cn&band=t.i.%20&-recid=33722&-find=

― 24s, Monday, 15 December 2003 17:58 (twenty years ago) link

i didnt know that get low now had elephant man and busta rhymes on it

― charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 16:31 (twenty years ago) link

Generally once a hip hop song starts getting radio play it's only a matter of time until Busta shows up on it.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 16:36 (twenty years ago) link

hehe...

― Jay Kid (Jay K), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 16:59 (twenty years ago) link

I think it's the *harshest* Busta has sounded in a long time.

― robin carmody (robin carmody), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 17:30 (twenty years ago) link

yeah the elephant man/busta remix is great. those first few seconds are total chaos. elephant man is a perfect choice- "wouldn't mind to see you get nudie!" busta is definitely on fire, i think if either came with less they'd just have gotten rolled over.

― rgeary (rgeary), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 18:04 (twenty years ago) link

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"turn down for what" is probably my song of the year. figures jon would come in and hop on a lame trend (what do we call this, EDM?) and do it better than any of these jokers

― k3vin k., Saturday, 31 May 2014 17:39 (nine years ago) link

he's been doing edm guest appearances for years now

― macklin' rosie (crüt), Saturday, 31 May 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link

lil Jon is seriously amazing on turn down for what

― write 500 words of song (sleepingbag), Saturday, 31 May 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link

TD4W is incredible

― Spottie, Saturday, 31 May 2014 20:32 (nine years ago) link

five years pass...

no avoid the truck Jon pls

― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Saturday, 30 November 2019 23:25 (four years ago) link

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