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What is this spirit that you speak of?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 30 November 2003 07:51 (twenty years ago) link

Never mind, I have it in my sights now.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Sunday, 30 November 2003 07:53 (twenty years ago) link

RE: pop, yes I like it when it's pop and wish there was more

RE: Kompakt gig...Panda Bear has performed while singing on top of Other Music's Scotty Mau(a fantastic DJ) before, they called themselves "Jane"

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 1 December 2003 05:03 (twenty years ago) link

not a big fan myself but thought you'd get a kick out of this piece by the great Rod Smith: http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0330/music-animal.php

M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 1 December 2003 05:25 (twenty years ago) link

The Jane CDRs are really good. They made very very few of them and sold them at Other Music.
The new AT and PB record will be quite a bit poppier than anything recently and should be amazing. I don't think it is coming out for a quite a while, unfortunately, even though they already recorded it.

Magic City (ano ano), Monday, 1 December 2003 17:03 (twenty years ago) link

"The Jane CDRs are really good. They made very very few of them and sold them at Other Music."

D'oh! I'd love to hear them. I'll be in NY later this month. Do you think there's a snowball's chance in hell they might still have any?

Jeff Sumner (Jeff Sumner), Monday, 1 December 2003 22:08 (twenty years ago) link

one month passes...
now i'm a fan. (colin, i'll fix you up.)

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 19:12 (twenty years ago) link

this kinda sounds like how i wished the oxes sounded like when i was dreaming about them, even though nothing like them.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 19:14 (twenty years ago) link

'bat you'll fly' really sounds like the russian futurists. did anyone hear that russian futurists record or what?

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 19:26 (twenty years ago) link

i) this is better through headphones.
ii) he can sound scarily like billy corgan in places; meep.
iii) danse manatee isn't as good as the first disc : /
iv) maybe that was the earphones thing, cos i listened to it through speakers (cf. i).

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 20:39 (twenty years ago) link

i like the russian futurists lots but i've never noticed a similarity - i'll have to listen again.

has anyone else heard Hollindagain?

toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 20:52 (twenty years ago) link

i think it was just that particular track, toby.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 20:53 (twenty years ago) link

i should listen to danse manatee again, i've only heard it once.

actually i should listen to all their albums lots on headphones, i don't get to play them much at home cos ppl tend to complain.

toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 7 January 2004 20:54 (twenty years ago) link

Hollindagain (or whatever its called) is their best - unfortnately, it's now impossible to find.

What's this "Jane" CDR??

roger adultery (roger adultery), Thursday, 8 January 2004 06:03 (twenty years ago) link

Campfire Songs! Campfire Songs! Sounds nothing like the rest of their material! But it's REALLY PRETTY and REALLY DRONEY.

Ho hum. Is Hollindagain the live album people are always talking about?

Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 8 January 2004 06:06 (twenty years ago) link

yeah i really really want to know more about this "jane" cdr (cdrs?).

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 8 January 2004 08:20 (twenty years ago) link

oh and i totally see where you're coming from re russian futurists.

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 8 January 2004 10:46 (twenty years ago) link

hollindagain is supposed to be reissued, i think on paw tracks but maybe fat cat? dunno when.

jane is a duo featuring panda bear (under his own name) and another party i wasn't able to place. very beat-oriented, possibly even clubby. i have no idea where their cdrs might be available, i got a copy from a friend of a friend, who found it in a used been in a store that isn't around anymore in houston.

m

Mark Flaum, Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:22 (twenty years ago) link

On one of the Michael Mayer threads on ILM someone wrote that Jane is Panda Bear "singing" over DJ Casio... I think that's write.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:33 (twenty years ago) link

magic city's post

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:35 (twenty years ago) link

ts: memory vs. spelling

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:38 (twenty years ago) link

what is 'here comes the indian' like?

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 10 January 2004 02:14 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...
New live dates from the paw-tracks page, which means new material!
February 20th - New York - Barnard College with Need New Body and White Magic - Prentis Hall - 632 W 125th St.

February 21st - New York - Knitting Factory with the Numbers

March 27th - New York - Anthology Film Archives

Deacon told me it might even be danceable!
Plus jane is playing with Orthrealm and Black dice next Friday at the Knit. New York's long dark winter is over.

Mitchell (Mitchell), Friday, 6 February 2004 19:58 (twenty years ago) link

Also since a lot of people were asking: the Jane CDRs were released in photocopied black and white 7" sleeves which made them look kind of like a punk band. The covers are really nice though and they often feature the steal your face dead logo.
They made them all themselves, very few, I don't know how many and I guess they are all gone. They have been talking about putting out a 12"
One description I read somewhere is Cologne beats with psych vocals. Pretty true. The vocals are heavily effected, like a lot of AS stuff. One song, "Coconuts" sounds like reggae. That one and solid gold wall are my favorites. Most songs are around 20 minutes long.

Mitchell (Mitchell), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:33 (twenty years ago) link

mitchell - i've asked at other music twice and written Noah personally, and those CDRs are GONE, man - please put it up on soulseek!!!!

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 February 2004 22:37 (twenty years ago) link

I like Terrestrial Tones.

but as far as the AT & PB stuff is concerned, what little I've heard all sounds like Cornelius.

Roger, Friday, 6 February 2004 22:44 (twenty years ago) link

roger, I would except, well, I don't even own a computer.

Roger, have you only heard Spirit...? If you like TT I would reccomend Here Comes the Indian esp the "Two Sails" and "Infant Dressing Table" tracks.

Mitchell (Mitchell), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:01 (twenty years ago) link

mitchell - i guess then a burn is out of the question?

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:11 (twenty years ago) link

roger, I'll see what I can do. I probably can use a friend's computer.

Mitchell (Mitchell), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:14 (twenty years ago) link

i'll take this opportunity to mention (for the sake of anybody reading this thread who hasn't made up their mind about buying it or not) that nothing i read from ilxors before buying prepared me for it.

i was expecting some sort of fried elephant six acid folk - instead i got dense sheets of tape manipulation and scary noises. i honestly feel this stuff is closer to stockhausen than elephant six.

i've heard some live jackie o motherfucker bootlegs (very heavy on turntables) that start to approximate the sound but yeah, it's very very tapeloop/effects heavy.

vahid (vahid), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:15 (twenty years ago) link

Vahid, which record did you buy? My guess is you bought "Here Comes.." It's like the opposite of what I said to Roger. All the Elephant 6/ Flaming Lips comparisons make sense, maybe, when talking about Spirit or Campfire Songs.
The other stuff is definitely fucked.
But, in gerneal, I don't think Avey Tare gets enough credit for his ability to write hooks. Even the most effected, distorted material has a hook, imo.
eg the repeated vocal "hiccups" in "Infant Dressing Table" or the simple keyborad line in "I See You Pan"

The new record, recorded as a duo of AT and PB, is maybe the most acid folk material thus far. It is mainly acoustic guitars, fun percusion, and catchy (but still fucked) songwriting.

Mitchell (Mitchell), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:27 (twenty years ago) link

haha my friend doesn't like them because 'they sound like the beatles'.

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:30 (twenty years ago) link

great hook: 'doggy' from campfire songs (still remaining the only animal collective i own due to being poor/slsk not working in the dorm--kakadelic???)

x-o-x-xo

Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:32 (twenty years ago) link

mitchell - wow yeah i'd super appreciate that and promise to share with other ILXors, who are also, doubtlessly, jonesing to hear it

i have much to trade - email me if yr lookin for anything - can also pay postage and some extra if ya want

by the way, Avey's split with Grubbs on FatCat is awesome. there's an animal collective lp coming out on Fat Cat this year too

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:32 (twenty years ago) link

for some reason i tend to forget that half of "dusk at cubist castle" is abstract tape experiment. maybe that just shows that compared to animal collective or JoMF the e6 crew are tapeloop dilletantes.

vahid (vahid), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:33 (twenty years ago) link

mitchell: good guess!

vahid (vahid), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:33 (twenty years ago) link

i think i can hear that beatles thing actually!

i dont like this that much any more either tho.

prima fassy (bob), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:34 (twenty years ago) link

i really hope you can sort something out with those jane cdrs, i'm dying to hear them. i wrote to the animal collective and they suggested trying other music again, and a couple of weeks ago they said they'd be getting some in last week, but i've heard nothing since :-(

zemko have you heard hollindagain?

toby (tsg20), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:39 (twenty years ago) link

keep up zemko!

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:43 (twenty years ago) link

prima fassy

it was a good pun. it was just too punky. people would call me fassy and think it hurt. close your eyes little one! ack

zemko (bob), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:54 (twenty years ago) link

havent heard hollindagain no, it's the fat cat one right? feels a bit like the ship has sailed. i wanna hear the russian futurists more now! didnt fancy the double lepers either huh toby

zemko zemkingdom (bob), Friday, 6 February 2004 23:58 (twenty years ago) link

i miss prima fassy :(

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 7 February 2004 00:16 (twenty years ago) link

i'm not sure you'll like the russian futurists, prima fassy.

cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 7 February 2004 00:17 (twenty years ago) link

i d/led the first 3 rusfut trax off the website.

i hate it like the universe

cozemko (bob), Saturday, 7 February 2004 01:09 (twenty years ago) link

shame on ya for missing double leopards!

I wanna hear this after vahid's stockhausen mention. he also sounds like the beatles.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 7 February 2004 01:16 (twenty years ago) link

eh caveat emptor - i am not a stockhausen expert!!

vahid (vahid), Saturday, 7 February 2004 01:40 (twenty years ago) link

hollindagain's the ultra limited live album that's impossible to find. except on slsk.

my flatmate was ill yesterday and i promised to cook her dinner, hence no double leopards for me...

toby (tsg20), Saturday, 7 February 2004 08:22 (twenty years ago) link

how do they do THAT?

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 20:51 (twenty years ago) link

wow, just downloaded the grubbs / avey split and it is really nice. very pastoral and mellow. the field recordings on abyss song are great. apparently there is a new album

might as well bring it up again, but if anyone would want to trade for the jane cd or has it on slsk i would would love to hear it!

they posted some new tour dates on the paw tracks site, euro / uk mainly (in april):

http://carparkrecords.com/pawtracks.html

marcg (marcg), Saturday, 14 February 2004 18:26 (twenty years ago) link

er, i meant to say apparently there is a new paw tracks comp and panda solo album out this year...

marcg (marcg), Saturday, 14 February 2004 18:28 (twenty years ago) link

"defeat" has more than a little side 5 of tales from topographic oceans realness

definitely in A) the sheer amount of lyrics and B) the fact that it takes forever to get going

I like it more than any of the TFTO tracks as a whole though

hearing this live was probably one of my coolest show experiences ever - I try to not look at setlists beforehand, all I knew was they were likely gonna play some new stuff. I had no idea they were gonna play so much of it, much less a tune that was 23 minutes long. once it got to the ending bit I remember looking behind me and just seeing a sea of transfixed faces, nobody was talking or making any noise. I've never quite seen a general admission concert get like that before.

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 17:22 (four months ago) link

At the show i went to, my friend wouldn’t shut up his mouth through the whole thing. Still good though.

BringTheAuBonPain, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 21:21 (four months ago) link

I keep forgetting about this.

Bee OK, Saturday, 2 December 2023 02:10 (four months ago) link

So have most publication year end lists, so you’re not alone!

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 2 December 2023 17:04 (four months ago) link

you know what I actually like the way the album ends. I think given the downtrodden nature of the album and the fact that it's starting to set in just how long these guys have been together ending on a acapella track like that is a cool idea. like one of those in the end we've all still got each other sorta vibes. "All the Clubs are Broken" is the one that really doesn't fit, I actually dig it a lot but it doesn't belong here

frogbs, Monday, 4 December 2023 05:11 (four months ago) link


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