Faust: C or D?

That is why.

Totally ridiculous. While Rainy Day Sunshine Girl is a very VU type thing, it is it's own beast and a magnificent one at that, and also classic for I've Got My Car and My TV/Picnic On a Frozen River.

remaster sounds good, they fixed the tracking and the tape splice glitch on 'jennifer', and they restored the original beautiful cover art with the smaller sheet music & typeface

most of the alternative versions are earlier mixes of album tracks... same performance, but rougher eq balance & in some cases one less layer of sound. 'sad skinhead' has an extra verse and 'piano piece' (aka 'meer' from 71 minutes) is about three minutes longer. nothing earthshaking.

the real attraction is the complete 10 minute version of 'just a minute', which is faded down about 90 seconds in on the original album. it's cool, basically just jamming and then the tape machine got turned on, but... it's them all right, you could tell it was them from the next room. beautiful part in the middle where everything breaks down just to the drums and that incredibly corroded, echoey wash of organ ambience that was distinctively theirs, fans know what I'm talking about.

(I'm guessing this is more of the 'laufzeitmachine', a delay that graupner built them using several tape heads & a tape loop threaded around a turntable, which could then be 'played' to change the tape speed as it fed back. we still need a longer interview with graupner about the gear he built them)

so, good to have the new jam, but the main thing is they've finally done the mastering and track id's right.

yeah screw that, what a waste

orgone girl's right though, I hadn't a/b'ed them yet. they overdid it on the noise reduction. though there is a lot of tape hiss on the original record & CD, the nonoise deadened the high end a bit. having checked out both a little bit I think I prefer the sound of the original disc. that stings.

the ReR BBC Sessions disc is definitely better overall than the 2nd disc on this new thing, so people who don't have this yet could just grab a used copy of the original version of the CD, and a copy of BBC Sessions. that being said, I am ten steps past fanatical when it comes to this band, I'm keeping both editions.

So Faust are playing Hull on June 10th but I've promised a friend I'd babysit. Please tell me I'm not missing much re: their current incarnation.

Aren't there 2 versions kicking about now?

What do Faust "play" when they play live? Is it guitar, drum and bass set up? I couldn't imagine how they would play the majority of their songs like that. Unless they became a more normal band type thing nowadays and used to be something more wild.

Faust IV was always my favorite, but Faust v. Dalek is pretty compelling too.My "review," or response, was in theVoice, and I also try to describe a new version of "Beware (The Transatlantic Feedback," with Gary Burger, in my take on Silver Monk Chant: A Tribute To The Monks, which will be out in the States later this month, and so will the review, again in Voice. Irmler saw them on The Beat Club in '66, revelatory for teeenaged him, as he describes it in the documentary, Monks--The Transatlantic Feedback. (Although wathching that same appearance on You Tube, and their studio stuff,I can't agree that "they had no Afro-American or Caribbean influence," but maybe he just means how he heard them at the time.)

Jean Herve Peron had a track from their new album available on his website and it's fantastic. Steve Stapleton has a big part to play in the whole thing and it's exactly what they need to make their music come alive again. Live - they play guitar bass drums and machinery - all a bit silly.

It seems to be really popular among fans, but I've never liked "Why Don't You Eat Carrots?" There's cool stuff in it, but that recurring riff drives me up the wall. That may be the intended effect.

I missed the London gig, my own fault, anyone go? I prefer Faust when Jean-Herve is in them, but I'm not sure about a Faust where he is the prime mover.

I went to see Tony Conrad. Does that count?

Oh man, was he playing too??!?!?

I went to the Tony Conrad show. He was dressed just like Anderson from Beavis and Butthead.

Didn't realise Faust played. They was great last time they played London! Jean-Herve did some ironing.

Tony Conrad played in St Giles in the Field church, Dadaismus. Right opposite the nu-Intrepid Fox. I only found out about it the day before, and then by accident, because a friend was going to see the Finnish support band.

I'm not sure how good it was. I must admit he'd lost me by the end. And I was trying ever so hard. I'm glad I went though.

Did you like it, Gnarly Sceptre?

Sorry, the Monks trib, with the Faust featuring Gary Buger track,is Silver Monk Time, not Silver Monk Chant. Speaking of their concerts, I once read in an English mag about their early (first?)LP, that was so very inexpensive that a lot of schoolkids bought it, and one who was maybe 11 at the time remembered then going to one of their shows, as did a lot of her classmates, and the set started with roadwork machinery or something, and all the kiddies booed and hooted through the whole gig, the ones who stayed that long.

xpost: I thought Tony Conrad's second track was over an hour. I'm sure I'm as happy with drone stuff as much as the rest of that audience, but I think he coulda cut it down by about 20 minutes or so and everybody would have been satisfied. But then whenever it did seem feel like it was *finally* about to draw to a close, suddenly he'd pull out some fat static and turn it up to level 11 again, and I was happy to see it though. I thought Richard Youngs accapella worked real well too, particularly given the surroundings. Shame nobody could sustain his request to imitate a massed eBow.

I e-bowed along quite merrily.

20 minutes shorter would have been better, yes.

I'm listening to 71 Minutes for the first time right now, and I'm "Knockhentanz" is as good as anything else they've done.

I'm filling in at a friend's record store today, and people keep walking in during songs like "Don't Take Roots" (a meandering 5 minutes of moaning and feedback) and rolling their eyes at me, buy Icky Thump and Funeral, and then on the way out the door I can hear them say "God!" to their girlfriends. Then, as soon as the customer leaves and the store's empty again, the feedback dissolves and it's back to Faust-style accessibility.

I'm enjoying this more than Faust/So Far/IV/etc right now.

new faust is pretty good!

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51t4Nxtbz3L._SS420_.jpg

Which Faust line-up is it?

Hamburg-based Krautrock outfit Faust has returned from a creative kosmische aether, bringing with them a new studio album C’est com…com…compliqué due out April 13 on the Bureau B label. According to group member Jean-Hervé Peron's website www.art-errorist.de, the album was recorded in Hamburg during 2006 by producer Tobias Levin, and joining original members Peron and Werner “Zappi” Diermaier was Amaury Cambuzat of French post-rock group Ulan Bator (who first toured with Faust in 1996 as Collectif Metz/Faust, a project which also produced an eponymous album).

I watched the ending about four times

urgent request for .gif loop of 4:56 - 5:05

:D

lol I didn't even know about the deluxe IV! Guess who's going to be shopping online in a few seconds (possibly to find out I'm SOL)?

What about Faust Wakes Nosferatu? Their 1997 live interpretation of the "Nosferatu" film.

Listening to it now and I like it, even on its own. I don't know if having the film playing alongside would improve it.

What does anyone reckon to this one? Have I missed discussion anywhere?

What can I expect if I go see them in Detroit next week?

[All I've ever heard is 71 Minutes]

What about Faust Wakes Nosferatu? Their 1997 live interpretation of the "Nosferatu" film.

I once tried watching the film with this playing in the background, but it goes "out of synch" fairly quickly... so back to he "Wizard of Oz" and "Dark Side of the Moon" for me

What can you expect? The only (and not very helpful) answer is to expect the unexpected.

When I last saw them about 3 years ago, it felt at times like me and my friends were the only people there who weren't somehow in on what was going on; like some odd Krautrock Truman Show. They got some "random" girls in the audience to join in on vocals, and they somehow knew all the words (I think they turned out to be The Pipettes), they made some guy in the audience take his shirt off to have it ironed onstage as part of a song ("zis is not rock and roll, zis is ironing!!" IIRC), at one point a brass band appeared through the main door of the venue, joined in on a song and then left again.

Terrific fun, and largely documented on this set:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Autumn-Faust/dp/B000MGVA1U/ref=sr_1_18?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1254390085&sr=1-18

(Amazon reviewer hated it, maybe you had to be there.)

The time before that, someone climbed up some stepladders and through rocks into a mic-ed up tin bath full of flaming materials. I thought it was hilarious, but it was generally responded to with chin-stroking solemnity by everyone around me.

*threw

http://www.klangbad.de/xtc/images/product_images/popup_images/125_0.jpg

this is really good, probably the best i've heard of their late period

"faust is last" is definitely the best of the releases where irmler seems to have control. "ravvivando" just seemed messy but this one has some great moments and is definitely better than the peron / zappi faust on "c'est complique". but "disconnected" is really great (even if that seems to be mostly due to NWW).

I see I killed this thread for a year. I can't help but wonder whether PeePee went to the gig and what they thought.

I dunno if I'm a fan of the "Faust is Last" album; sadly it would have been better if they had trimmed it by about a half hour. Because both discs have some great pieces along with a lot of interchangable material. Ravvivando is still the post-reformation group's high water mark.

I heard C Pluus off of You Know Us...I thought that was really good.

That live set looks great and went to order it, but balked at paying $30 shipping for a $28 CD. Nope.

So the unreleased stuff on the boxset from two years back is available separately now:

https://faust.bandcamp.com/album/momentaufnahme-i

https://faust.bandcamp.com/album/momentaufnahme-ii

Or at least the Momentaufnahme work.

Faust and Faust So Far are on streaming now too. Not sure if that just happened today or was the case for a while... but last year when I checked they weren't there.

The "punkt." also.