Terry Gilliam - C/D, S/D

OK SO TIDELAND IS THE WORST MOVIE EVER EVER EVER PRETTY MUCH.

This is coming from someone who has great respect for Gilliam in general, but seriously, dude, the next time you want to put yourself through some sort of aggressive theraputic "finding yourself as a child" bullshit, leave it for the Terry Gilliam home video collection.

This movie is irredeemable. I watched it last night, and I'm still angry about it.

You and Jeff should have liveblogged, then.

Yeah, it wasn't the fun kind of bad though.

Well it could have been like a Beckett play, then.

Odd, seemingly insulting but not intended as such bit of trivia: Mentally handicapped weirdo sea-captain neighbor who lives next door looks strangely similar to ILX's own Tuomas.

http://lembrowski.webblogg.se/images/tideland_1156706345.jpg

haha I thought that too JJ

http://www.moviehabit.com/photos/tideland_150.jpg

That bad, huh? I am not looking forward to seeing Tideland. But I will, anyway.

This is one of those few times where I actually wish that I hadn't seen a movie, because after this and "Brothers Grimm", I think I'm going to be incapable of speaking of Gilliam as a great director in the present tense.

Maybe the Don Quixote curse actually finished him off. I know this, I doubt I'll make an effort to see anything he does from here on out.

Munchausen and Time Bandits Gilliam's best? This seems like perversity for the sake of perversity.

I love Terry Gilliam, although the two movies above did very little for me. 12 monkeys, Brazil and the Fisher King, on the other hand, are among my favourite films ever. 12 monkeys predictable? Really? Wow - you have fine prediction skills.

Hey FB, the best way I can describe it is that "Tideland" is Gilliam trying to make "The Reflecting Skin" without the story to back it up, the actors to pull it off, or the courage to commit to making a disturbing movie without softening the harsh edges with over-bearing cute kid moments and (I kid you not) overuse of fart jokes.

Ugh. I'm trying to convince myself to move this movie out of my queue, but, you know, it's TG, so I'm having a hard time letting go.

I guess there really is a Tuomas after all!

I like Time Bandits best.

John, so you're saying that he movie falls from the perverse to the ugly by virtue of his inability to make up his mind what this movie is about, and by generally inadequate artistic direction.

(I'm trying to talk myself out of this)

I'll admit, I suspect it isn't as bad as I feel it is now, so I guess it's worth watching. It was just one of those visceral, angry moments of disappointment in watching a director completely fumble.

It is possible that the source material is a significant part of the problem. It is at times a very visually stunning movie, and there are moments that do work, but it still ended up as a half-assed Lynch film with no underlying psychology, or a movie with such a private language that it feels intentionally and mean-spiritedly incomprehensible.

xpost, but probably an answer of sorts.

His cartoons on Monty Python are by far my least favorite part of the show. I always fast forward. Sorry to distract from filmic convo. I just had to get that off my chest.

Yeah in retrospect I can't quite fathom how a movie featuring a farting taxidermied dead The Dude wasn't at all funny.

Peter Stormare was funny as shit in Brothers Grimm.

Fuck it. I liked Tideland, even if no one else on ILX did.

I also think the animated Python bits are sometimes the best bits of the show.

Talking about the possibilities for a Terry Gilliam movie is almost always superior to watching a Terry Gilliam movie. Fear and Loathing is entertaining in small doses and 12 Monkeys is probably OK - but I can't think of anything else I've seen that was passable. (Have not seen Brazil.)

abbott u crazy

12 Monkeys is wonderful, as is Brazil, although Brazil's wonder is completely overshadowed by the final shot, which obliterates more or less all that came before it in a devastating emotional smackdown. One of the finest endings in film history IMO.

Brazil: absolute Classic!

Fear and Loathing in Las vegas: Absolute Dud!

very much polar extremes in terms of quality (Not that the latter is of low quality, it's made quite well, I just depsise it).

Somebody besides me has seen The Reflecting Skin? Holy cow.

Best Amanda Plummer mini-performance: The Prophecy, being yanked around by Christopher Walken's Gabriel.

The Fisher King would be in my top 25 favorite films of all time. Also love 12 Monkeys, Brazil, Time Bandits. Just saw Brothers Grimm this week and eh. It had some good moments. Heath Ledger was surprisingly good.

No bad films, in my opinion. He is one of the greats.

MPython cartoons = CLASSIC

no wait I mean Baron Munchausen

twelve monkeys and id listen to a case for parnassus

Time Bandits is my fave - what a batshit movie. But I really like 12 Monkeys and Fisher King.

A strong read.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/jun/12/sarah-polley-terry-gilliam-run-towards-danger-baron-munchausen-interview

Very well written. Also solves the puzzle of why she didn’t use any explosives in Stories We Tell.