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Lord Krishna's Cuisine is an awesome cookbook. Some of the recipes can be quite complex and a bit daunting at times. (I've borrowed it from a friend but don't own it.) A really simple Indian cookbook that will teach a lot of fundamentals is The Spice Box by Manju Shivraj Singh...I've made that pink lentil daal like a million times. Lots of pickle recipes.

Mastering the Art of French Cooking by Julia Child and Simone Beck is great and you'll become a pretty decent cook if you use it once in a while. Truss a chicken, make a white sauce, do a gratin a few times and you're in. You must like the butter though.

pj (Henry), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Yet another vote for How to Cook Everything. This book isn't just recipes, it really teaches you how to cook, and it's even enjoyable to read. I can probably credit about 60% of whatever meager cooking knowledge I have to this book. Also when you make one of his Indian recipes it actually comes out tasting somewhat like Indian food.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I also really love to find Junior League or church cookbooks when I'm at a thrift store or in another city. A great Louisiana one is called River Road Recipes. It's got like one of those plastic-ringed binders and it looks like it was made on a mimeograph machine.

I guess destroy most cookbooks that come with crock pots or other consumer appliances. Microwave cookbooks can also go away.

pj (Henry), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:27 (seventeen years ago) link

the thing to do with books like Lord Krishna's Cuisine is to just make it your project for a week or two - set aside four dinners (more if you can!) to using recipes from it, getting the feel for the processes. Spend a couple of Saturdays learning to make the samosas and make a chutney or two, too. If you make the full recipe you have so many left that you gotta give 'em to neighbors and stuff and the looks on their faces when they're eating a homemade samosa are so priceless that it gives you enough encouragement to keep going.

There is a "Recipes from Lord Krishna's Cuisine" book that's mainly the not-quite-so-intense recipes.

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I always like to rep for that book because it, along with Bernard Clayton's New Book of Breads, totally changed my life!

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, How to cook Everything is really great.

AaronK (AaronK), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

And as a matter of fact I'm using it now to do a pasta with cauliflower dish.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

No love for Fannie Farmer on this thread? It's my go-to book, not that I cook much these days...

also my go-to book. and since i'm the only one of my roommates who brought a basic cookbook, it gets used in our house probably every other day.

i ordered this tassajara recipe book, or some variant of it, through interlibrary loan a few days ago because i've heard good things. i'm pretty excited.

i've had pretty mixed luck with the georgian feast, i'm not sure what to make of it. georgian food is just so good, but i can't ever get the khinkali to not fall apart (maybe my fault, but still!), and the khachapouri tastes like pizza without the sauce.

Maria (Maria), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link

This book isn't just recipes, it really teaches you how to cook

this is the best part. it's great for the whole "what's in my fridge/cupboard?" dilemma. just find the section of the book that deals with your particular ingredient (green peppers), and find a recipe.

too many cookbooks assume that ppl know how to cook. they don't.

also: the tassajara bread book is double-awesome.

gbx (skowly), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 23:49 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah I've been a lazy cook lately, just relying on what I know and cooking whatever. I really wanna cook some Indian food really bad but my girlfriend is a little asian-phobic and I've been breaking her in slowly with phad thai and vietnamese stir fry. I remember a particular sweet potato fritter from that Lord Krishna book that was a-may-zing.

pj (Henry), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 00:20 (seventeen years ago) link

And behold, said recipe I mentioned:

http://static.flickr.com/109/272723017_fff3708919.jpg

The importance with this and anything else from Bittman is that it is easy to do, teaches you something about how to put a dish together, and is infinitely protean -- the possibilities of additional seasonings or ingredients to taste is obvious in a dish like this. This is only half, the rest I've set aside to work with tomorrow in terms of other seasonings.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 00:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Man, that's making me want pasta right now, and I've already eaten dinner!

One thing that I think would be handy for a cookbook to do, if one hasn't already, is to make an appendix of spice combinations that work well together and work well with certain foods, like just a quick reference guide, i.e., I want to grill lamb, give me some ideas.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 01:40 (seventeen years ago) link

mint!

your daughter is one (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 02:17 (seventeen years ago) link

(for real, you could make a tzatziki w/ plain yogurt, mint, dill, parsley, garlic, lemon juice, and maybe some cucumber)

your daughter is one (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 02:19 (seventeen years ago) link

a balsamic marinade is also good with lamb.

I am very fond of my Charmaine Solomon's Vegetarian cookbook. Also, the classic aussie bible A Cooks Companion by Stephanie Alexander.

I tend to read cookbooks for inspiration though. I dont follow recepies for anything except exacting stuff like baked goods (bread, cakes etc).

Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 02:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I just meant the lamb thing as an example.

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 02:59 (seventeen years ago) link

i'd like that too. i hate bland food, so i tend to overdo spices sometimes to overcompensate, which ruins a dish in its own way.

Maria (Maria), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 03:27 (seventeen years ago) link

not sure how good it is as a cookbook (I've barely made a dent in my Bittman), but she ran a really great noodle shop back in the day...

Marnie Henricksson, Everyday Asian: From Soups to Noodles, From Barbecues to Curries, Your Favorite Asian Recipes Made Easy

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 04:06 (seventeen years ago) link

seconding some one up thread the river cottage meat book, if i had to choose a religious text that would be it

secondhandnews (secondhandnews), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 08:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Also it is heavy enough to humanely stun the beast of your choice.

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 08:36 (seventeen years ago) link

What do people do for web sites? Do any of them stick out as being great? I used to use Epicurious a lot, but there are so many recipes on there that it started overwhelming me - I had no way to winnow out the wheat from the chaff.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 08:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I signed up for a free trial at http://www.cooksillustrated.com/ but it's a bit too soon to say how good it is. I love the magazine though. Yeah, some bits are really annoying, but I love the fact that they try all sorts of different things perfecting recipes and share the results with you.

Vicky (Vicky), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 08:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes I find that difficult as well, I have found a million fried chicken recipes but no idea as to which is good; I have anthony easton's grandfrather's fried chicken recipe though so I think I am on the right track. (Hand , we should do a peer reviewing social networking type foodie site, we will mint it when we get bought by google.)

Ed (dali), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 08:47 (seventeen years ago) link

BBC Food's a really handy cooking resource.

scotstvo (scotstvo), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 08:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I second the Good Housekeeping cookbook.

In addition these are the ones I use most often.

Gary Rhodes New British Classics
Prue Leith Cookery Bible
Debra Mayhew The Soup Bible
Martha Lomask The American Cookbook
Anna Thomas The Vegetarian Epicure

Nearly bought a 1912 copy of Escoffier's cookbook at a book fair last weekend but was a little out my price range.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 09:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I tend to read cookbooks for inspiration though. I dont follow recepies for anything except exacting stuff like baked goods (bread, cakes etc).

Trayce is OTM here. I have a ridiculous pile of cookbooks, including many listed upthread such as Hugh F-W's books, Slater, European Peasant Cooking, Prue Leith, Tamasin Day-Lewis, Mary Berry - even Larousse, which I'd argue is actually probably most useful for the butchery diagrams. Despite all this, however, the book I actually refer to most is Modern Practical Cookery which my Gran got with a new cooker just after the war. It's the only one I look at when I need to know how to do something specific.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 09:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Marcella Hazan - Essentials of Classic Italian Cooking is a great one!

pauls00 (pauls00), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 11:38 (seventeen years ago) link

I've written about this but I don't know where. I don't generally like cookbooks. I've read a couple hundred, own less than ten -- though there are four or five others I'll eventually pick up, plus the good subset of the ones I don't know about yet.

Good reference: Bittman (I've heard a lot of complaints about his non-Everything books, but they might be mostly "it's not as good as the other one" complaints), Nigella Lawson's How to Eat, The Joy of Cooking, any of the Betty Crocker/Better Home and Gardens type books that are handy when you can't remember how many minutes per pound to cook a top round roast or what temperature to put a yellow cake in at. Rosengarten's Dean & Deluca cookbook is a surprisingly good general book, too, and one of the ones I gave to my ex instead of a used bookstore. I'm sure it's remaindered somewhere.

Anything by Damon Fowler or Edna Lewis is good. I use Fergus Henderson's Nose to Tail a lot but most won't. Marcella for Italian, Madhur Jaffrey for Indian. Bill Smith's Seasoned in the South is worth it just for the corned ham, and as much as I hate everything about "food porn," his honeysuckle sorbet recipe is the best example of it I've read.

Destroy most books by celebrity restaurant owners, for a million reasons -- the recipes often aren't intended to be used, the chef often doesn't have much involvement with it, it's a window shopping book. Thomas Keller and Mario Batali are notable exceptions, though the only people I know who cook from the French Laundry Cookbook are people who own lab-grade water baths to do sous vide at home.

Read eGullet.org, blogs, menus, and the restaurant reviews in Food & Wine. Mario and Giada's shows are pretty good, and Paula Dean's can be -- the benefit to food TV is that if it's shot right, you know what it's supposed to look like. Steingarten's books of essays are good if you skip everything that smacks at all of science, which he's absolutely shitty at -- there's no instruction there, but knowing how to eat informs knowing how to cook. Bourdain's A Cook's Tour, likewise.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 11:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I like Cooking Light's website, and for the most part, their magazine although I wish they'd cram their women's lifestyle tips up their asses and just stick with the recipes. I'm really not interested in eye cream recommendations from a cooking magazine.

My favorite cook books are the Joy of Cooking, Cook's Illustrated The Best New Recipes, and Edna Lewis's The Taste of Country Cooking. I had a Moosewood cookbook that I liked a lot but I can't find it and I can't remember which one.

xpost - Ha! We have the French Laundry Cookbook and have never used it.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 11:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Marcella Hazan - Essentials of Classic Italian Cooking is a great one!

Yeah, Stripey lent this and Laurel's Kitchen to me as well. I haven't used them yet as much as Bittman but what I've checked out is really great.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 11:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Ed, I like this Indian-style "fried" chicken recipe, even though it's made in the oven (I s'ppose you could actually fry it instead). Rilly good.

Bittman is king; Slater's latest (Kitchen Diaries) is fantastic. I just got Rick Stein's new seafood book--it looks fantastic as a guide to buying and preparing fish (extensive info on fish families, tons of pictures, tons of techniques), but I'm not sold on the recipes yet, which have the drawback of having no introductory text at all (I know it's silly, but I like it when a cookbook writer tells me shit like, "this is the best dish ever! Make it!").

g00blar (gooblar), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 11:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Ruhlman's Charcuterie is good if you

a) incline towards the baking/confectionery/chemistry approach to cooking;

b) have a variety of airy places in your home, of varying temperatures, where your spouse and pets won't interfere with meat hanging around;

c) like meat.

Me, I cure meat a lot, but I don't make sausage, I'm not about to try hot dogs -- to make a hot dog you need approximate temperature control during grinding, or it won't emulsify, and I'm just not that guy -- and I'm down with just making homemade corned beef, pastrami, bacon, lamb ham. You know. But it's a really good book if you're up for that whole trip.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 11:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Ed, just asked Pearline (who says her sis' Shacklewell Lane take away, Finger Lickin', is now open following its refurb) and she says this is what you should do:

"Mix two teaspoons of spicy paprika with each half-cup of flour you're using, and then some pepper. Whisk an egg RIGHT up to dip your chicken in. If you are mad at anyone, take it out on the chicken. Make sure your chicken pieces are perfectly dry, then stab them over and over again with a fork before dipping them in the egg wash and then the paprika flour. Deep fry them until they're golden and then let them sit awhile in a 200C oven - that lets most of the oil run off the chicken."

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Which edition of Joy of Cooking? I have the one from 1997, and I don't like it. They got rid of the instructions on how to skin and prepare squirrel!

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link

doesn't proper fried chjicken need a good bath in buttermilk? I'm sure there's a good eats on makling perfect fried chicken, In fact I've got it somewhere...

Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Argue with the Jamaican lady, not me!

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Tons of ways to make proper fried chicken, to put it mildly, even in the South. Mine usually sits overnight in undiluted Louisiana-brand hot sauce.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 22:19 (seventeen years ago) link

True. Having tasted Pearline's goat curry, I'm pretty sure of her ability to cook a good ANYTHING in the Jamaican/soul food category.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 22:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Who is Pearline and does she deliver to Jersey City?

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 22:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Pearline is a nice Jamaican lady who lives in London, and thus does not deliver to NJ. Truly sorry about that.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 22:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Tep did you ever post your Christmas cookbook PDF from a few years ago anywhere? I've lost it and I would love to have it again.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

(I made your famous vinegar chicken SEVERAL times to great acclaim, which I gathered as my own, naturally.)

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Oi. Hand.

suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

I know, but what was I supposed to say?

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 23:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh hrm. I don't have the password to that ftp directory anymore, so I'm not sure what the direct link is! I don't actually even have a PDF copy myself, just the hard copy -- but if anyone has it, they're welcome to upload it to sendspace or what have you.

What I do have is the 2004 one, formatted for an odd page size -- I don't think it's quite as good (typical sophomore syndrome, I had to cull just from stuff I'd done that year), but it's something.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/0y6a5c

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha I bet it is. Thank you!

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 23:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Stuff in there -- talky crap, chicken, sandwich, sloppy joes, vaca frita, other sandwich, other sandwich, chili, potato salad, pie, chicken basil dirty rice, dak galbi, platonic fish, lamb, Burmese chicken, sancocho, manchamantel, pie, blondies, other pie, blueberry truffles, fruitcake, and a promise to make the best lobster roll ever. Which I think I wound up doing, at least within my constraints (had to be recognizably a lobster roll without a bunch of odd ingredients): smoked lobster, warm, with a little mayo and hot sauce.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 23:15 (seventeen years ago) link

C'est tout que j'aime!*

*(c) McDonald's France; means either "It's everything that I love!" or, more sinisterly, "It's all that I love!"

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 23:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Thanks for re-upping that file, Tep -- I had lost it too.

The Bearnaise-Stain Bears (Rock Hardy), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 23:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I tend to drift toward "technique"-focused books. Julia Child's "The Way to Cook" (tasty stuff), James Peterson's "Essentials of Cooking" (sort of like an illustrated Bittman - takes nothing for granted), and most recently, been wrestling with Madeleine Kamman's gargantuan "The New Making of a Cook: The Art, Techniques, and Science of Good Cooking". It's like a whole culinary university sitting in your lap. I almost want to build a whole room around this book, it's that solid.

I also love Hazan's "Essentials of Classic Italian Cooking" esp. that pasta with a sauce of sausage w/ red & yellow peppers.

Collardio Gelatinous (collardio), Thursday, 19 October 2006 02:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Re: Instant Pot, it's better than a standard pressure cooker, imo, but not better than a slow cooker. Or at least not a 1:1 replacement. If you want to use it as a slow cooker, you have to kind of adjust the time/temperature to compensate. Fwiw, my Dutch oven is pretty much my most go-to big pot.

I heard something good about a cookbook called "Feast," apparently a broad survey of Islamic cuisine around the world, but I saw one review that said the book was OK but ultimately not for "most American kitchens." I figured, OK, it's going to be some rube bristling at hummus or sumac or something, but no, it was a recipe for ... roast camel hump. And I thought, yeah, that is pretty exotic. Can I even buy a camel hump? A quick look suggested no, at least not easily. But I soon enough came across the cookbook author's blog expressing big enthusiasm for camel hump, and, curious, read up to see where she got it. And she concedes that the easiest way to get a camel hump is ... from someone cooking an entire camel. Not a big one, mind, just a small one, but an entire camel all the same, which I'm pretty confident isn't any easier a get. And I thought, you know, this cookbook is probably not for me.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 October 2020 01:21 (three years ago) link

i've never used it as a slow cooker and also haven't used my slow cooker (iirc) since i got it. there's probably nothing i would slow cook instead of pressure cooking for 1 hr - 90 min.

i've never encountered a recipe for camel hump! i think i have a book with sheep's brains, but no hump. even if i could get that i'm not sure i would cook it because what if i don't like it? there is a grocery store here that i think is owned by yemenis and has a butcher shop attached to it, could probably get a place like that to order a camel hump. probably deliciously fatty.

superdeep borehole (harbl), Monday, 26 October 2020 01:34 (three years ago) link

really? tell me more... my stovetop one has broken and i’m looking at replacing. was thinking that browning things would be the biggest issue with instant pot?

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for me the stovetop pressure cooker involved just enough monitoring that it outweighed the convenience factor. having to wait around for it to come up to pressure so i could reduce the heat (my stovetop is aggressive) and then making sure that it stayed at a happy pressure meant i was just staying in the kitchen as much as i would for any other operation, where ideally if i wanted to do a pot of beans it would be a set and forget operation. so the instant pot takes care of all of that.

the saute function isn't amazing but does the job for onions and stuff. if i needed to brown something really carefully i guess i would do it in a saute pan, deglaze and transfer to the instant pot, but that hasn't come up.

call all destroyer, Monday, 26 October 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link

A lot of instant pot recipes we've found and like aren't just toss everything into the pot and let it go types. They typically involve growing meat or veggies first on sautés before locking everything else in there. Honestly, we love to use the IP most for hardboiled eggs!

Anyway, for the record: https://www.anissas.com/camel-hump-finally/

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 26 October 2020 03:07 (three years ago) link

I bought Jerusalem right before moving and never quite “bonded” with it for lack of a better term, I really should go through it again for ideas

joygoat, Monday, 26 October 2020 03:51 (three years ago) link


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