This is the thread in which we anticipate "Capote"

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i'll give you three guesses

100% WJE (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Who are you referring to? Jºhn D3m3try?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:09 (eighteen years ago) link

no

100% WJE (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:11 (eighteen years ago) link

n4t3 p4tr1n?

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:20 (eighteen years ago) link

I love this game! This thread needs to be retitled the "guess who my film-critic friend is" thread!

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:23 (eighteen years ago) link

'oberman!

gear (gear), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Wait, but is this the same film critic that JBR said the description of my friend reminded her of? So is this person in Chicago? And writes for a website?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Nathan R@bin?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:45 (eighteen years ago) link

nah, new york, and he writes for print publications too... your description just made me roffle because it was so like the dude i know. (xpost)

100% WJE (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:48 (eighteen years ago) link

now i'm not saying.

100% WJE (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Mike D'Angel0?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 05:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll admit I can't get my head around any film critics being friends with Armond.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 06:28 (eighteen years ago) link

jaymc, which of your friends am I, when you are talking to other people? Am I your bon vivant friend? Your healthcare nonprofit administrative assistant friend? Your poor internet humor friend?

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 7 October 2005 13:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I refer to jaymc as "my citical theorist/musician friend who views individual sexuality as essentially fluid and non-specific".

400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

Seriously, like, search the archives!

400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

::sigh::

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay, I'll stop.

400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:36 (eighteen years ago) link

It's cool. :)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:37 (eighteen years ago) link

I refer to jaymc as "The Sigh-monizer." Or I will.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Or maybe "Sigh-man Says."

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Most of my beleaguerment is for dramatic effect.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I refer to him as "Miss Sigh-gone".

400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyway, I think I borrowed the sigh-bracketed-by-double-colons from Alex in NYC!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link

We're totally ruining this thread, guys.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link

It's only the internet!

400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I am really not anticipating "Capote" very much. Biopics are the pits.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link

That is generally true.

400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I think I like movies to either be completely real or completely made up, make up your mind.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I sort of agree that biopics are usually not great. I just checked my top 50 of 2000-04, and the only biopic I listed was American Splendor, and even that is arguable as to whether it's actually a biopic.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:03 (eighteen years ago) link

The best things about American Splendor are not the biopic things. Also biopics are more tolerable if they're about people who aren't really famous.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 7 October 2005 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link

We're totally ruining this thread, guys.

Considering I would've never clicked on this thread twice if it weren't for the tangent, my guess is we're validating this thread.

I just checked my top 50 of 2000-04

Pleast post this.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

You'll make fun of me.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link

And yet:

1. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Gondry, 2004)
2. All the Real Girls (Green, 2003)
3. You Can Count on Me (Lonergan, 2000)
4. 25th Hour (Lee, 2002)
5. Mulholland Dr. (Lynch, 2001)
6. Talk to Her (Almodovar, 2002)
7. Together (Moodysson, 2001)
8. Spirited Away (Miyazaki, 2002)
9. Lost in Translation (Coppola, 2003)
10. A.I.: Artificial Intelligence (Spielberg, 2001)

11. Collateral (Mann, 2004)
12. Before Sunset (Linklater, 2004)
13. Far From Heaven (Haynes, 2002)
14. Y Tu Mama Tambien (Cuaron, 2002)
15. Spellbound (Blitz, 2003)
16. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon (Lee, 2000)
17. Lilya 4-Ever (Moodysson, 2003)
18. Wet Hot American Summer (Wain, 2001)
19. The Man Who Wasn't There (Coen, 2001)
20. Sideways (Payne, 2004)

21. Amores Perros (Gonzalez Inarritu, 2000)
22. Amelie (Jeunet, 2001)
23. In the Bedroom (Field, 2001)
24. Million Dollar Baby (Eastwood, 2004)
25. Minority Report (Spielberg, 2002)
26. High Fidelity (Frears, 2000)
27. Chuck and Buck (Arteta, 2000)
28. The Company (Altman, 2003)
29. Bully (Clark, 2001)
30. Jesus' Son (MacLean, 2000)

31. Kill Bill Vol. One (Tarantino, 2003)
32. American Splendor (Berman and Pulcini, 2003)
33. Undertow (Green, 2004)
34. Capturing the Friedmans (Jarecki, 2003)
35. Best in Show (Guest, 2000)
36. Adaptation (Jonze, 2002)
37. We Don't Live Here Anymore (Curran, 2004)
38. The Manchurian Candidate (Demme, 2004)
39. Morvern Callar (Ramsay, 2002)
40. 28 Days Later (Boyle, 2003)

41. Punch-Drunk Love (Anderson, 2002)
42. Almost Famous (Crowe, 2000)
43. Shaun of the Dead (Wright, 2004)
44. The Dreamers (Bertolucci, 2004)
45. Memento (Nolan, 2001)
46. Kill Bill Vol Two (Tarantino, 2004)
47. Requiem for a Dream (Aronofsky, 2000)
48. Ghost World (Zwigoff, 2001)
49. Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy (McKay, 2004)
50. Hedwig and the Angry Inch (Mitchell, 2001)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Make fun of you? What's become of my ILX persona? Oh, right... those film poll threads.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:26 (eighteen years ago) link

I only stand by that as a list I made a couple weeks ago. Always changing, etc.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I was kidding, Eric. ;-)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link

It's a decent list.

I didn't like Talk To Her, though.

400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't understand you. But you loved Bad Education, which didn't impress me much.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link

film critics are the most pompous boring twats ever!

:(

(true tho)

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link

A.I. in the top ten automatically precludes you from my scorn. It's always interesting to see how many like the first half of Kill Bill more than the second.

Movies from your 50 that show up on my lists of favorites for their respective years.

1. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Gondry, 2004)
4. 25th Hour (Lee, 2002)
5. Mulholland Dr. (Lynch, 2001)
6. Talk to Her (Almodovar, 2002)
8. Spirited Away (Miyazaki, 2002)
10. A.I.: Artificial Intelligence (Spielberg, 2001)
12. Before Sunset (Linklater, 2004)
13. Far From Heaven (Haynes, 2002)
16. Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon (Lee, 2000)
18. Wet Hot American Summer (Wain, 2001)
24. Million Dollar Baby (Eastwood, 2004)
28. The Company (Altman, 2003)
31. Kill Bill Vol. One (Tarantino, 2003)
41. Punch-Drunk Love (Anderson, 2002)
46. Kill Bill Vol Two (Tarantino, 2004)
47. Requiem for a Dream (Aronofsky, 2000)
48. Ghost World (Zwigoff, 2001)

That's a sizable amount. A couple are borderline cases that I imagine a fresh viewing would probably merit demotion (#13, #47), but why do that?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, actually, the hardest part about coming up with that list was having to deal with the films from four or five years ago that I haven't seen since. I mean, I really liked Chuck and Buck when I saw it in 2000, and its #27 reflects that, but I have a feeling I wouldn't like it nearly as much if I saw it again.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link

That's one of the ones I did unfortunately see again a few years later and was, obviously, not charmed by.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I like both Talk to Her AND Bad Education.

film critics are the most pompous boring twats ever!

One half is undoubtedly pompous. The other half is obviously boring. But rarely are they both at the same time. Many of them are completely insane. Do you realize how hard it is to be both completely insane and, at the same time, completely boring?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:40 (eighteen years ago) link

hahaha, Eric!

I don't understand you. But you loved Bad Education, which didn't impress me much.

Sorry that I don't make sense.

Bad Education seemed like a tour-de-force.

400% Nice (nordicskilla), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link

But so was The Shrinking Lover.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link

A totally rad list, John.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Friday, 7 October 2005 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha, you've already seen it, Alfred.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Just for the hell of it, my top ten of the '00s as it is today, without using the cheat sheet of my own lists.

Femme Fatale
Light is Calling
Kings & Queen
Mulholland Drive
Wet Hot American Summer
Elephant
Pulse
Crimson Gold
Tropical Malady

music video for "Star Guitar" (Chemical Brothers)

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link

You really liked Kings and Queen that much?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 October 2005 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link

just saw capote two nights ago. i really liked a lot of it. chris cooper makes me happy in anything, to be honest. i loved the colours, the farms, the scenes at chris cooper's house, all of the harper lee scenes.

what really frustrated me was the end. i spent the last 40 minutes or so thinking "this will be great if they don't show the execution." the west wing, of all things, is really great at never ever showing 'important' moments. i.e. the state of the union address is never shown - we see the preparation and the fallout, and while we may see clips of the speech we never actually see the unmediated scene, because what the president says is irrelevant - it's the stuff around it, how we react to it, that we care about. the execution is irrelevant - it is the lead-up and fallout that matter. we know at a point that it is going to happen, and showing it is besides the point. that they felt the need to need to show the execution suggested that it was somehow important, and it really wasn't - the film is not about the killers or the crime or the system. it's about the book and the author, to which the knowledge of the execution matters, not the event.

i was really into the levels of fictionalisation, too - this is a fictionalisation about the process of fictionalisation, with the added fun of having been adapted from a book about the writing of a book!

derrrick, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 09:14 (seventeen years ago) link

four years pass...

http://nymag.com/guides/fallpreview/2011/movies/moneyball/index2.html

kinda curious for the guy's new one, w/hoffman, pitt & jonah hill. this piece is sorta interesting, you get to hear pitt talking about movies (i always wonder how much + how huge actors watch films)

sexual union prayerbook slam (schlump), Monday, 22 August 2011 08:41 (twelve years ago) link

this jonah hill pic is too much

http://images.nymag.com/guides/fallpreview/2011/movies/movies110829_jonah_560.jpg

johnny crunch, Monday, 22 August 2011 14:08 (twelve years ago) link

six years pass...

I've seen this five or six times now--approaching comfort-film status (odd designation, I know). Love the music, Cooper and Keener and Balaban (even though, from what I've read about him, that's not William Shawn), PSH of course.

clemenza, Saturday, 30 June 2018 15:57 (five years ago) link

two years pass...

Came to post pretty much exactly the same post I put here two years ago. I'm watching Shirley (still not finished), and in the middle of that thought this might be a good point of comparison, so I watched this again. I really love the contrast between the Kansas scenes and Capote holding court back in New York--one of the main things the film's about, really.

clemenza, Monday, 22 February 2021 20:06 (three years ago) link


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