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Oh god that picture is making me hungry--time for lunch!

How exactly is this horseradish used in the Passover sense (creamy horseradish spread on matah=idea I must pursue)?

quincie, Friday, 22 April 2005 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Whatever it is they put in Pret a Manger roast salmon and horseradish sandwiches is damn fine. It's creamy and horseradishy. Does that sound right? (Ugh, I'm so fucking bourgeois.) Horseradish for the seder is a big lump of raw horseradish. Making my mouth water just thinking about it.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/images/horseradish.jpg

beanz (beanz), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Doesn't that look appetising. Mmm mm mmmm.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:06 (eighteen years ago) link

But is actual edible horseradish incorporated into any traditional Passover dishes? Can you (do you?) put it on your brisket?

quincie, Friday, 22 April 2005 14:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't, but many people do, yes. They also dollop it onto their GEFILTE FISH.

Let us now recall the GEFILTE wars from the Rosh Hashanah thread.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:15 (eighteen years ago) link

re: passover kugel

why the fuck would you try to make it out of matzo meal??!??! that would be about as dense as a neutron star.

the only passover kugel is POTATO kugel which is made basically the same way as regular potato kugel, of which im making about 10 lbs of come saturday.

AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:21 (eighteen years ago) link

With any luck my mum will have made a similar quantity of charoset.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Need recipe for potato kugel immediately. Thanks.

quincie, Friday, 22 April 2005 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh and is there such a thing as kosher booze other than wine? Kosher scotch or something?

quincie, Friday, 22 April 2005 14:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Anything made from kosher ingredients can be certified kosher including alcohol. Whisk(e)y isn't kosher for passover though, nor beer.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link

well, it goes something like this... I'm trying to recall from memory, but the recipe is not terribly exact anyway, its pretty forgiving.

10 potatoes, peeled if you wish, grated or food processed, then drained of moisture with a strainer
1-2 onions, (or to taste) grated/food processed
3-4 eggs, probably the more eggs, the richer it is
1/2 cup matzo meal(/flour if not pascal)
1/4 cup oil
a good amount of salt
black pepper to taste

mix all this together in a giant bowl, put it in a greased pan so that the stuff is about 2 inches high, bake at 350ºF for 1.5-2 hours till nice golden brown on top. I hate when cooked potatoes have any hardness left to them, so I'm going for closer to 2 hours.

pretty easy except for the mass grating of potatoes.

AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link

sposedly vodka is made from potato, so thats ok.

i forget what gin is made from. Sake should be ok if your sephardic.

mmm...sake...

AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:38 (eighteen years ago) link

So potato kugel=kinda like latkes (sp?), only baked?

quincie, Friday, 22 April 2005 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link

mmm kosher saki.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link

You are all making me hungry. (I am, however, having Peruvian food tonight.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link

hey, "peru" rhymes with "jew"--almost the same.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Just make sure it's really potato vodka and not cheaper wheat vodka.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link

yes yes! you could take the same goop, put it on a frying pan and have latkes. the same exact mixture.

AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 22 April 2005 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link

My great-grandparents distilled potato vodka in their backyard in some grim corner of pre-pogrom Belarus.

Japanese Giraffe (Japanese Giraffe), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link

In some grim corner of pre-pogrom Lithuania my great-grandparents owned a cow, which made them the envy of the shtetl I'm told.

beanz (beanz), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link

I would like to go to a seder. I've always felt I was born into the wrong religion (ultra-WASPY episcopalian) and that my true self is a Jew. Kind of like some people are born biologically male but know deep down they are actually a chick.

Me too. I'm devoid of any spirituality and was born as such but if there's any religion I should've been born into it should've been Judaism as it's the only one I feel some affinity for.

N.B.: very few (if any?) Jewish ILXors are religious

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:29 (eighteen years ago) link

O.K., so, honest question here--is one still popularly identified as Jewish even if one is completely secular (or for that matter an active member of some non-Jewish faith) or does the very term imply some sort of committment (however tenuous) to the Jewish faith?

Like, grown up me is an atheist so I don't think of myself as episcopalian, even though I was raised in that faith and that is the faith of my parents, etc. . . the same sort of thing does or does not apply to Judaism? Anyone?

quincie, Friday, 22 April 2005 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I guess I'm just trying to figure out the "not religious" thing one makes one a non-religious Jew or not a Jew at all.

Am I making any sense?

quincie, Friday, 22 April 2005 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Uh, I appear to have missed some words on that last post. So to recap: is a non-religious person of Jewish heritage a "not-religious Jew" or not a Jew at all?

quincie, Friday, 22 April 2005 15:46 (eighteen years ago) link

answers on this thread:

What makes a good babka? and other questions about traditional Jewish desserts

is one still popularly identified as Jewish even if one is completely secular

short answer: yes, and in fact this was the reason behind my response to Ian's comment

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Friday, 22 April 2005 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh man, now I really want some babka. Never had it.

quincie, Friday, 22 April 2005 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link

N.B.: very few (if any?) Jewish ILXors are religious
I do know the distinction between descent and religion.
shit! forgot a key ingredient in the kugel! you need to a tiny bit - 1/2 teaspoon of baking powder to make the stuff be fluffy. not too much, but a wee bit.

AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 22 April 2005 22:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Does any of it make sense?

-- beanz (beanzil...), April 22nd, 2005.

No. And orthodox Judaism makes even less sense. Case in point, *they* accosted my girlfriend and gave her a box of "Shmurah Matzah", on which was printed this explanation:

"For the Seder one should try to have Shmuroh Matzo's [sic]. If it is difficult to obtain all three Shmuroh Matzo's, an effort should be made that at least the first 'kazayis' eaten should be Shmuroh. To fulfill the mitzvah of eating ('kazayis') Matzoh, one should try to eat an entire piece of Matzoh equivalent in size to 4x5 inches in no more than 4 minutes. If more than 6 minutes pass from the beginning till the finish, the mitzvah of eating 'kazayis' Matzoh has not been fulfilled..."

???

Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 23 April 2005 04:03 (eighteen years ago) link

i used to be kind of religious. i went to a shabbas dinner last night and remember all the prayers and songs and stuff, to my surprise.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 23 April 2005 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I brought some Kosher beer ("He'Brew")to a religious friend's parents' seder last year, forgetting -- of course -- the old no-yeast-at-Pesach no problem. My friend's mother literally screamed and ran out of the house with the six-pack when I turned up. Not a good start. We got invited back this year, though.

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Saturday, 23 April 2005 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link

Matza blows, but matza brei rules the world with delicate, tasty fists.

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Saturday, 23 April 2005 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Seda' Club

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Saturday, 23 April 2005 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Fucking Seder with the wife you're about to leave/be left by (god knows) with her parents (who know) and everyone else (who don't know, hence your presence) just gets more fun when it's your turn to read the bit from the Haggadah in your age-3-level Hebrew & half the crowd are cooing at the grown man's cute inabilities & the other half wonder why you didn't fuck off on a plane already & why you even came.

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Sunday, 24 April 2005 00:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Sorry, that sounds awful. But if they're so petty that they can't act like normal human beings for one night and have to resort to amusing themselves at your Hebrew-reading abilities, then to hell with them.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 24 April 2005 01:45 (eighteen years ago) link

That's not the point.

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Sunday, 24 April 2005 01:47 (eighteen years ago) link

This is my first vegetarian passover, so the food isn't quite on point this year. I also didn't think I could get drunk during a seder, but hey, I did it, and now I have a headache and am trying o listen to Musik by Plastikman for the first time while fending off this headache/tiredness. Another seder tommorow, this is a bigger one though. I don't think hangovers and shul mix though.

Tokyo Ghost Stories (Tokyo Ghost Stories), Sunday, 24 April 2005 03:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Just had an amazing (vegetarian) Passover with my wife & parents & six friends, one of whom flew in from San Francisco specifically for it and another of whom is visiting from NYC this week. I wrote/edited the haggadah a couple of years ago and revised it last week. Everybody cooked stuff. Really one of the best times I've had in ages.

Douglas (Douglas), Sunday, 24 April 2005 06:03 (eighteen years ago) link

You wrote your own Haggadah? Wow!

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 24 April 2005 13:21 (eighteen years ago) link

We did our annual hybrid: secular reform Jew/lapsed Catholic pseudo-Seder w/edited & abridged Haggadah, lamb instead of brisket, latkes and haroset and most of trimmings. I've really come to enjoy this, it's better by far than Holy Week & Easter dinner at my grandparents.

m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 24 April 2005 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Damn, now I'm hungry (given both M. and Douglas's posts.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 April 2005 14:07 (eighteen years ago) link

the short form:

potato kugel = awesome
noodle kugel = gross
charoset = fine, but i'd never eat it if i didn't have to
horseradish = blecch
hard-boiled egg in salt water = i love hard-boiled eggs! the salt makes 'em that much tastier.
manischewitz wine = my guilty pleasure. i always feel embarrassed telling wine geeks that i like the stuff. it's like the jewish night train.
matzoh = fine. egg matzoh is very good. chocolate-covered matzoh is manna from heaven. nothing especially dud about matzoh; it's the same thing as those posh swedish flatbread crackers.
latkes = OH BABY. with apple sauce please, and hold the sour cream.

my friend flicka (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 24 April 2005 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm not doing passover this year, which i'm glad about -- the religious part bores the shit out of me.

my friend flicka (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 24 April 2005 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link

i've always wanted to do the diy haggadah thing.

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 24 April 2005 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link

i had some pretty off the hook potato kugel last night. the seder was total chaos though

s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 24 April 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

it's the same thing as those posh swedish flatbread crackers.

but as long as we're talking crispy flatbreads gimme papadam any day.

my friend flicka (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 24 April 2005 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link

my major discovery of 2005: SAVTA'S PESACH GRANOLA! seriously, the best granola i've ever tried. i like the kind with the dried cranberries. i'm glad they only make this once a year, cuz it's way too addictive.

http://savtas.com/images/site/common/en/image/imagewrap.img?picture.image.url=http://savtas.com/members/402402/uploaded/SPG_product.jpg&picture.width.max=550

my friend flicka (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 24 April 2005 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link

mff, what is you position on macaroons?

tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Sunday, 24 April 2005 22:12 (eighteen years ago) link

it only occurred to me now that the reason the GHMB looked just a bit small for hugging (lol, matzoh ball is hueg) was because it might not be meant for adults. i have to see my sister's plague kit.

i was holding onto the possibility that my mom had invented 'hillel sandwich', but i'm glad it's found elsewhere as well.

my parents are abandoning me for grandma, tho i may join them if i can and the crowd isn't too large already. i might end up leading a seder - lol?

gabbneb, Monday, 31 March 2008 02:57 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

oh yeah, the hillel sandwich is in the hagaddah isn't it

happy pesach!

gabbneb, Sunday, 20 April 2008 03:34 (fifteen years ago) link

wtf with bay area "matzah shortage"?! By Saturday night, every single grocery store in town was completely out of matzah and matzo meal.

Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 21 April 2008 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Matzah blows. Sorry.

-- Hurting (Hurting), Friday, April 22, 2005 11:29 AM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

CONTROVERSIAL OPINION.

We didn't do Passover this year, as my Grandparents, who usually host, are on the other side of the country. Usually it's the seder with the reading and the singing and the wine and the plagues and the haroset and the bitter herbs and the matzoh ball soup and family arguments.

ian, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Plagues are A++++ would visit them on Egypt again.

felicity, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 06:24 (fifteen years ago) link


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