So, like, I'm torn. Not really, I genuinely hope that gay marriages stay legal in the USA, but I hope that doesn't stop all gay tourists from spending their AMERICAN DOLLARS in my country.
― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Maria D., Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:49 (twenty years ago) link
― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Maria D., Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:54 (twenty years ago) link
― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:55 (twenty years ago) link
― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 18:56 (twenty years ago) link
― Maria D., Tuesday, 9 March 2004 19:00 (twenty years ago) link
― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 19:02 (twenty years ago) link
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 19:03 (twenty years ago) link
― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 19:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 19:08 (twenty years ago) link
― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 19:09 (twenty years ago) link
I keep checking, but so far the foundations of society have not crumbled here in Denver, and I'm still straight and married. Will advise.
― Hunter (Hunter), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 19:42 (twenty years ago) link
― mei (mei), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 19:57 (twenty years ago) link
http://www.basicrights.org/
― Maria D., Tuesday, 9 March 2004 20:15 (twenty years ago) link
Also now I have "Mother-In-Law" stuck in my head and that's a good thing.
Also fuck that piece of dirt Bush.
― Broheems (diamond), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 20:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Maria D., Tuesday, 9 March 2004 20:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 20:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Maria D., Tuesday, 9 March 2004 20:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 21:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 21:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Leee the Lee (Leee), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 03:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 04:12 (twenty years ago) link
and yay for maria scott and rufus too
― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 04:26 (twenty years ago) link
― jim wentworth (wench), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 04:29 (twenty years ago) link
I wonder if there are ILXors who think it's just wrong for gay people to marry? The pollsters tell us most Americans don't agree. I guess those are people who don't know that some of their neighbors or friends are gay.
― Maria D., Wednesday, 10 March 2004 14:33 (twenty years ago) link
― Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 15:17 (twenty years ago) link
― Pete (Pete), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 15:31 (twenty years ago) link
― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 15:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 15:37 (twenty years ago) link
― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 15:39 (twenty years ago) link
― The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 15:40 (twenty years ago) link
― dyson (dyson), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 16:16 (twenty years ago) link
― Liz :x (Liz :x), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 16:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:20 (nineteen years ago) link
Oregon justices nullify 3,000 gay marriagesGovernor wants expanded rights, lawmakers to weigh nextThe Associated PressUpdated: 11:48 a.m. ET April 14, 2005
SALEM, Ore. - The Oregon Supreme Court on Thursday nullified nearly 3,000 marriage licenses issued to same-sex couples by Multnomah County a year ago.
advertisementThe court said while the county can question the constitutionality of laws governing marriage, they are a matter of statewide concern so the county had no authority to issue licenses to gay couples.
Members of the state Legislature had been awaiting the ruling to give them guidance on how to proceed on the issue of same-sex couples. Last November, Oregon voters approved a state constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.
Vermont is the first and still the only state to offer civil unions to gays, passing a law in 2000. Massachusetts has allowed gay marriage since May.
Governor's standOn Wednesday, Democratic Gov. Ted Kulongoski said he will push for a law allowing gay couples in Oregon to form civil unions that would give them many of the rights available to married couples.
Kulongoski’s backing of a civil unions law expands on his announcement in January that he would support legislation extending anti-discrimination protections to gays.
“As I stated in January, we face a great moral challenge to make sure opportunity is an open door through which every citizen can pass — not a revolving door which turns for some and doesn’t budge for others,” he said.
Those against, in favorTim Nashif, head of the Oregon Family Council and the Defense of Marriage Coalition, said a civil unions law would be “pretty hard to swallow” in view of voters’ approval of a gay marriage ban, Nashif said.
The state’s leading gay rights group, Basic Rights Oregon, praised the governor’s decision to move ahead on civil unions legislation.
“All Oregonians should take pride today in Gov. Kulongoski’s tremendous public and personal commitment to ending discrimination,” said Roey Thorpe, the group’s executive director.© 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
Happy anniversary Maria's mom!
― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link
Tell me I am not the only one left quizzical by this fool's choice of language?
Oh, and yeah, Happy Anniversary to the happy couple.
― M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― kingfish, Thursday, 14 April 2005 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 14 April 2005 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link
Published: April 14, 2005
Oregon's highest court ruled today that 3,000 same-sex marriages held a year ago in one county were null and void, saying that the county had overstepped its authority and that the marriage licenses it had issued were unconstitutional under Oregon law.
The Oregon Supreme Court opinion drew heavily on a vote by Oregonians last November approving a constitutional amendment defining marriage as between one man and one woman. But the justices also ruled that even before the ballot measure was voted in, Oregon law had rendered the marriages - performed last March in Multnomah County, which includes Portland - illegal. Advertisement
"County officials were entitled to have their doubts about the constitutionality of limiting marriage to opposite-sex couples," Justice W. Michael Gillette wrote in the ruling. "But, marriage and the laws governing it are matters of statewide, not local, concern."
The court ruling also said, "Today, marriage in Oregon - an institution once limited to opposite-sex couples only by statute - now is so limited by the State Constitution as well."
The court did not address the question of whether gay couples, in legal civil unions, are entitled to the same rights and benefits as heterosexual couples, a question that is emerging as a new focus of both social conservatives and gay rights groups. Vermont is the only state that legally sanctions civil unions, but both Oregon and Connecticut are debating legislative measures that would make that option open to gay couples.
"Those marriages performed last year are not valid and that, of course, is extremely disappointing," said Rebekah Kassell, a spokeswoman for Basic Rights Oregon, one of the plaintiffs in the case. "But we are going to continue to advocate for civil unions and we are confident that the courts will end the exclusion of same-sex couples from these protections for their relationships and their families."
In Oregon, where Gov. Theodore R. Kulongoski introduced a bill this week to require civil unions under the State Constitution, state lawyers argued before the Supreme Court that while Multnomah County's decision to issue the marriage licenses was unconstitutional, gay Oregonians should be afforded the same benefits as married couples.
"The state's position from the outset was that the fundamental issue was whether or not same-sex couples were entitled to the rights and privileges of marriage, not just the institution of marriage itself," said Kevin Neely, a spokesman for State Attorney General Hardy Myers.
Oregon is one of 18 states with constitutional amendments defining marriage as between a man and a woman, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. Legal cases tackling the question of whether gays can marry are winding their way through various state and county courts in at least six other states, according to the Human Rights Campaign, a national advocacy group. They include New York, Washington and California, where gay marriages were performed en masse in San Francisco shortly before the Oregon marriage licenses were granted.
Massachusetts is the only state where gay marriage is legal, under a decision last year by that state's highest court.
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Maybe I'll encourage them to renew their vows here in Massachusetts.
― Maria :D (Maria D.), Thursday, 14 April 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 15 April 2005 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link
The photo of the Scheuermanns, a heterosexual marriedcouple, smugly basking in the glow of the annulment of over3,000 marriages (on the front page of Friday's paper) wasappalling.
Should racial segregation ever be reinstated in Oregon, Ilook forward to seeing similarly smug photos of smilingKlansmen on your front page, and dispassionate, even-handedarticles on how the state has reaffirmed their most deeplyheld beliefs.
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But no, I don't think I'll send it, as it's a bit hysterical and pointless.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 15 April 2005 22:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 15 April 2005 22:12 (nineteen years ago) link
http://rschrade.brinkster.net/stuffs/squares.jpg
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 15 April 2005 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 15 April 2005 23:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 15 April 2005 23:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 26 September 2005 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jeff LeVine (Jeff LeVine), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link
"immoral or inconsistent with a positive Christian life style, such as cohabitating without marriage or in a homosexual relationship,"
Or, say, casting judgment.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 26 September 2005 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Beth Parker (Beth Parker), Monday, 26 September 2005 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Maria :D (Maria D.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 00:13 (eighteen years ago) link