So you assume that bisexual men don't exist?
― Viceroy, Sunday, 29 September 2013 09:21 (ten years ago) link
i think what she's saying is that as a woman she can't speak for the experience of bi men in comparison to gay men?
i guess the bi-less-privileged-than-lesbian thing might have its roots in the way that people treat the bis like they are faking it? bi people as greedy, confused, inauthentic, attention-seeking; bi women as "actually straight", bi men as "actually gay", etc. so rather than people thinking "they are more privileged because it is super easy to pass under the radar if you're bi" they think "they are less privileged because people think their sexuality doesn't exist."
privilege oneupmanship!! so many levels!!
― Dora Viola G. I. de Orellana Dysart Plantagenet Tollemache-Tolle (c sharp major), Sunday, 29 September 2013 11:10 (ten years ago) link
Read that as onionesque satire tbh didnt think ppl would yknow continue voting all the way thru
― hey racists can be joyless too yknow (darraghmac), Sunday, 29 September 2013 15:04 (ten years ago) link
Of course they would, c'mon
― smang culture (DJP), Sunday, 29 September 2013 15:15 (ten years ago) link
The article doesn't specify which gender, but I have filled in bi (woman) because they are matched against lesbian (woman) and this is the prelims, so we should be looking along only one axis of privilege at a time. I know that lots of people deny that bi men exist, including possibly the person who made this survey without including a bi (men) VS gay (men) bracket. I don;t think it makes sense to lump bisexual men and bisexual women together.
So yeah c sharp major had it right - I'm not gonna speak for bi men because I don't know whether being erased from the mainstream <i>and</i> the subculture is worse than all the negative stereotypes and discrimination gay men have to deal with.
I think most people in the US acknowledge that bi women exist, though. They might be viewed as promiscuous or unstable or unfeminine/unsentimental (though note that lots of men view those traits in a positive way, too) but they aren't, for instance, incarcerated for crimes at 4x the rate of the general population the way lesbian women are. That's why I think bi(woman) << lesbian.
Obviously I'm taking this too seriously.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 30 September 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link
looking like plushies are gonna pull a big upset over the gays
― druhilla (k3vin k.), Monday, 30 September 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link
http://gawker.com/the-privilege-tournament-the-aggrieved-eight-1426610567
it's terrible that I'm hoping "latex allergy" wins this whole thing, right
― smang culture (DJP), Monday, 30 September 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link
oh i was looking at the old page
lmao @ the "aggrieved eight"
― druhilla (k3vin k.), Monday, 30 September 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link
Do you know how hard it is to find sheepskins though?
― The Reverend, Monday, 30 September 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link
man, all 4 of the groups i voted for are behind (ahead?)
― druhilla (k3vin k.), Monday, 30 September 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link
not looking good for latex allergies
― druhilla (k3vin k.), Monday, 30 September 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link
I'm going to call fat, trans (m->f), homeless native american as the ultimate stigmatized combo.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 30 September 2013 20:44 (ten years ago) link
But that's probably because I'm still bitter than Sikhs lost (won?) their bracket against Muslims. I mean c'mon, when people see those long beards and turbans they jump to 'Muslim terrorist' right away anyway.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 30 September 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link
https://www.aclu.org/blog/religion-belief-racial-justice/judge-sikh-man-remove-rag-or-go-jail
― how do i shot cwmbran? (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 September 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link
exactly :(
― hurricane weather (forapper), Monday, 30 September 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link
https://www.google.com/search?q=breaking+bad+white+privilege
About 3,700,000 results (0.29 seconds)
― LinkedIn Beef (Eazy), Monday, 30 September 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link
Walter's brutal meltdown shows genius way "Breaking Bad" deals with white privilege, and men who can't get enough
When did "genius" become an adjective? I really hate that usage.
― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Monday, 30 September 2013 21:51 (ten years ago) link
Bastardization of "ingenious"?
― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Monday, 30 September 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link
https://www.google.com/#psj=1&q=%22breaking+bad%22+%22White+privilege%22
About 237,000 results (0.31 seconds)
― Iain Mew (if), Monday, 30 September 2013 21:59 (ten years ago) link
lol I didn't mean to add the capital letter there, just the quotation marks
― Iain Mew (if), Monday, 30 September 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link
lol the character's name is white so the quotation marks are pretty key
― #fomo that's the motto (Hurting 2), Monday, 30 September 2013 22:16 (ten years ago) link
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22walter+white+privledge%22&oq=%22walter+white+privledge%22&aqs=chrome..69i57.12861j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=%22walter+white+privilege%22&safe=off&spell=1
About 1,670,000 results (0.12 seconds)
― I got the glares, the mutterings, the snarls (President Keyes), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 01:19 (ten years ago) link
http://www.salon.com/2013/09/30/gawkers_privilege_tournament_is_all_about_white_anger/
― Mordy , Tuesday, 1 October 2013 03:50 (ten years ago) link
The site is either willfully naive about the daily pain experienced by people whom society devalues or, worse, resentful that white men are being wrongly denied equal sympathy.
this person is 80 years old, correct?
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 1 October 2013 04:08 (ten years ago) link
tim wise ladies and gentlemen http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/the-stream/the-stream-officialblog/2013/9/17/anti-racism-activistgetsbacklashoverrant.html
― Saul Goodberg (by Musket and Pup Tent) (s.clover), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 04:12 (ten years ago) link
news flash: everyone suffers. compassion in the face of suffering is required. but petulantly demanding compassion is nagl.
― Aimless, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 04:27 (ten years ago) link
down to the forsaken four today
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 1 October 2013 21:02 (ten years ago) link
smh at anyone following this
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 02:46 (ten years ago) link
the idea was kind of funny at the beginning but obvs no one actually has a rooting interest or anything
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 2 October 2013 02:56 (ten years ago) link
maybe the winner's subreddit will now get more participants
― Your Own Personal El Guapo (kingfish), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 03:11 (ten years ago) link
Naw, this wasn't funny at all. I was seeing red as soon as it appeared on my screen. How is it any better than that troll tumblr upthread? I mean, that's one thing for a random troll, but seeing Gawker pull some fuckery like this kind of makes me not want to read them anymore.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 03:34 (ten years ago) link
privilege... Privilege
― i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 03:43 (ten years ago) link
― The Reverend, Tuesday, October 1, 2013 11:34 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark
because it's an obvious satirical takedown of the privilege cottage industry?
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 October 2013 04:08 (ten years ago) link
this is probably the stupidest thing that's ever been written
The most hurtful thing about Gawker’s “Privilege Tournament” (which invites readers to vote on NCAA-type brackets for who is the least privileged “category” of people, black, Hispanic, gay, etc.) is not its contempt for civil rights discourse, but that the prideful display of a white man’s humor is more important to a large liberal media outlet than compassion for people who suffer the dehumanizing effects of discrimination.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 October 2013 04:09 (ten years ago) link
yeah the web site that gives kiese laymon carte blanche to run editorial content has absolutely zero compassion for people who suffer the dehumanizing effects of discrimination
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 October 2013 04:12 (ten years ago) link
gawker totally dated a black chick once too
― ^^ post obviously honoring and supporting Qualcomm (zachlyon), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 04:21 (ten years ago) link
i'm not sure if it's a "takedown" so much as it's just...having a bit of fun. he's basically saying "you know how people always say 'what is this the privilege olympics??' well what if we made...the privilege march madness?" i mean people who spend a lot of time online arguing about this kind of stuff are well within their rights to roll their eyes when a (presumably straight white) man decides it's time for a little good-natured onion-esque satire, but it's pretty clear that nolan is on the side of the tumblr peeps, the dude isn't a mens rights activist or something. i mean the whole thing is basically a ward sutton cartoon, no?
(tbh this is why i think actually *running* the tournament was maybe not the best idea, i mean the point was made, we all had a funny, not sure what finding a "winner", even if it's tongue-in-cheek, really adds to the joke (although i have to be honest i was rooting for peanut allergy to win just for the lols))
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 2 October 2013 04:24 (ten years ago) link
― ^^ post obviously honoring and supporting Qualcomm (zachlyon), Wednesday, October 2, 2013 12:21 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark
"web sites are people too, my friends"
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 2 October 2013 04:26 (ten years ago) link
"having a bit of fun" isn't that on the white priv bingo card?
― Dan I., Sunday, 6 October 2013 23:32 (ten years ago) link
I'm usually a big Ham Nolan fan though
― Dan I., Sunday, 6 October 2013 23:34 (ten years ago) link
didnt get my bingo cards to whom does one complain
― Victims’ tears deter rodent paedophiles (darraghmac), Monday, 7 October 2013 00:58 (ten years ago) link
http://shitrichcollegekidssay.tumblr.com/
― Mordy , Wednesday, 30 October 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link
http://tedmosbyisnotajerk.tumblr.com/post/66643775673/if-anyone-ever-asks-me-what-tumblr-is-im-gonna
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link
haha
― twist boat veterans for stability (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 18:18 (ten years ago) link
http://everydayfeminism.com/2013/10/lets-talk-about-thin-privilege/
― Mordy , Thursday, 21 November 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link
so what'd you think was remarkable about that post Mordy
― eris bueller (lukas), Thursday, 21 November 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
just tracking the expansive use of 'privilege' as a meme
― Mordy , Thursday, 21 November 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link
no matter your race, gender or sexuality, we all share human privilege. people cannot understand what it is like to be an animal that is captive, bred and slaughtered on an industrial scale. which isn't to say you should feel guilty for being born a human, but that you should check your privilege when it comes to animals who even lack the articulation to express their own alienation.
― Mordy , Thursday, 21 November 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link
that seems fair to me!
― max, Thursday, 21 November 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link
Wow I am so unbelievably sorry that I asked
― eris bueller (lukas), Thursday, 21 November 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link