Henry Cow C/D and S/D

thanks for those links! sounds like a good show and a great way to mark her passing. wasn't previously aware of lindsay's friendship with sally potter

One-off Cow reunion in memory of Lindsay Cooper just announced:

http://www.serious.org.uk/events/info/henry-cow-music-for-films-news-from-babel-and-oh-moscow-play-the-music-of-l

been really broke recently so i haven't been able to get a ticket for the barbican thing yet, but i am seeing the artaud beats at a little local festival tomorrow and i'm pretty excited about that. just watched a few videos and fuck, yumi is a monster

Funny, I thought this reunion would have sparked more ILM interest. Anyway, there are now two further concerts, Huddersfield on 22 Nov and Forlì, Italy on 23 Nov.

Cutler talks about Lindsay Cooper and the reunion:

http://www.cloudsandclocks.net/interviews/CC_LC_interview.html

I am very interested, and very frustrated to have no chance in hell of seeing these. I'm psyched to read that interview-- there's not that much talk about Lindsay Cooper online.

Just finished listening to to Western Culture and so also finished the studio box set. Desperate Straights was my favourite by far but it seemed to be far more of a Slapp Happy album than a Henry Cow one.
I enjoyed the rest but never really loved them, might have to return to them in years ahead. I did particularly like "Beautiful As The Moon", "Half The Sky" and "Nine Funerals Of The Citizen King". Love Dagmar Krause's voice.

Definitely want to get the Art Bears album.

I once saw Cutler saying that Henry Cow was way more of a live band. Does that mean the live albums are better? I don't think I could go for the two live box sets. Too much.

"concerts" is pretty essential

Thanks, that was quick.

Arts Bears albumS I should have said above in the middle paragraph.

There's some live HC (maybe SH/HC because Dagmar sings) youtubes that are very good. Search for the ones recorded at a place called Veysey (or Vesey, I think) in Switzerland (or is it France?). It's probably a good hour in total, and includes the "Beautiful as the Moon, Terrible as an Army With Banners" piece from Concerts.

Art bears in perpetual deadlock with Crimson for my favorite prog band of all time

Vevey, Switzerland. (couldn't do this at work)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfpq11-sRVQ

And I see it was linked above last year (couldn't see that at work either).

The dvd of Vevey was in the Live box set. I haven't heard if any of that box was available separately since, apart from the first disc if you payed on the instalment plan. So even that option may be gone now.
Would think they might make more money by having discs available separately especially the dvd which is pretty Recommended, as are the rest of These

Yeah, I'd buy the DVD for sure. Maybe I'll find a box used somewhere.

I highly recommend the two live Henry Cow boxed sets (40th anniversary) - if you are thinking of splurging, do it. (Same with the Art Bears box.) Studio HC is great, but live HC is insanely awe-inspiring. Bob Drake did an *incredible* job on the sound for the boxes. On this page, Bob talks about the meticulous and painstaking work he did to get the absolute best mix of HC's cover of "We Did It Again": http://www.bordebasse.fr/henrycow/wavs/index.htm

"Somewhere along the way I noticed that the two versions I had of this song were actually two different recordings of the same performance. The one I'll call version 1 sounds like a portable cassette recording from the audience point of view close to the stage. It has a lot of audience reaction, a lot of guitar, thin-sounding drums and bass, and only a faint echo of the vocals. Version 2 sounds like a desk recording and has almost no guitar, but plenty of drums, bass, and vocals. (The sax isn't very present on either.) Once I noticed they were the same performance I thought I could combine them to get the best of both. The tricky thing was that the audience recording runs much faster than the desk recording, and I couldn't simply resample it to the same pitch/speed because it wasn't a consistent difference. You'd immediately hear the flanging effect as the two recordings drifted out of synch. This is always a problem when synching analog recordings so I wasn't surprised, but this was made extra difficult because of the extremely jittery speed of the cassette recording. So I chopped it (version 1) into very short segments of perhaps 1/4 to 1/2 second length, resampling each segment seperately and manually synching them with the desk recording. It took a while, was it worth it...I don't care, I just had to do it!"

OH YEAH - ReR is currently having a CD sale - free shipping to the USA as long as you buy at least four. CDs are each five British pounds, which is around $8. http://www.rermegacorp.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=RM&Screen=SPECIALOFFERS

Henry Cow's "Stockholm and Goteborg" is part of that sale, so there's a low-cost entry point to the 40th anniversary live boxes. Also, I see two Art Bears discs there.

I just splurged on that sale and got a ton of Bob Drake, Sun Ra, the two News from Babel discs (finally), Lindsay Cooper's "Rags/The Golddiggers," a bunch from The Work (Tim H.'s post-HC band), The Necks, etc. It is absolutely insane how much quality stuff is on that sale list.

nice piece by sally potter on lindsay cooper:

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/nov/20/lindsay-cooper-rebel-with-applause

henry cow reunion, tomorrow night

tim hodgkinson played a concert in SF last week and it was astoundingly good. one solo clarinet, one slide guitar + mixer & toys

Xpost awesome can't wait to read. There really isn't a lot of substantial stuff about her online.

rags is such a great piece of work, really need to seek out her later solo work too (see comments in the link for a certain very familiar name)

Really hoping for some high quality footage/recordings of the reunion show.

London has gone up on d1m3, I expect Huddersfield will go up too, judging by the comments.

Nice to hear but the "News From Babel" portion of the set really blows away the Henry Cow portion. It's kind of weird how Henry Cow specifically got canonized in a way the frequently superior post-Cow projects by various alumni didn't.

Henry Cow are just the best so I can't personally agree with that directly. I'd agree that it is kind of weird how News From Babel don't come up more; out of all the post-Cow projects where they really went all in on concise songwriting, Lindsay's tunes are so beautiful

http://avantmusicnews.com/2014/11/22/amn-reviews-henry-cow-and-others-play-the-music-of-lindsay-cooper-nov-21-2014-the-barbicon-london/

A nine-minute piece from one of the shows. I haven't listened to it yet but the fb poster describes it as "A very droney, cathartic piece in a precise, dirty, post-Weillian sort of way - love this stuff."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay-_QlnQ0Ew

That's 'England Descending' from Lindsay's 'Oh Moscow'.

xpost you mean you don't have both the remasters and the original early 90's ESD reissues with the remixes? get cracking

― Milton Parker, Friday, February 6, 2009 2:43 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

sadly no, I just got the plebeian remasters box set with the bonus 3" CD instead. excuse me while I go harvest the potatoes for me lord.

― System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Friday, February 6, 2009 2:50 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This just resulted in the longest, hardest laugh I've had all year. Thanks ILX

Nice version of "Little Red Riding Hood..." with Hodgkinson and Cutler, with Yumi Hara and others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M0u4JDrhRM&feature=youtu.be

? maybe just copy and paste.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M0u4JDrhRM&feature=youtu.be

Oh well, just search for this: Little Red Riding Hood Hit the Road, THE WATTS + Canterbury Favourites

incoming...

Incredibly excited to dive into the page proofs for Ben Piekut’s massive “Henry Cow:
The World is a Problem,” to be published in September by @DukePress. pic.twitter.com/YAGuZvaxl3

— David Grubbs (@blackfaurest) April 12, 2019

Great to hear. Want to read an in depth history of them.

ben is the man for the job. it'll be interesting to see if it gets into the personal stuff. in the case of a band that lived their politics this intensely, it's never merely gossip, their lives were the work (perhaps I am being sentimental but this is still the only progressive band for me)

More on the book here from Cutler:

http://www.rermegacorp.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=COW+BOOK&Store_Code=RM

I was just wondering if hardbacks tended to be 4x the price of paperbacks but looks like that must be a common question or variations thereof. CC makes some comment beside the hb price on the rer page.

It's because it's an academic press. Those prices are aimed at university libraries.

Just ordered the book from ReR, looking forward to reading it. Also, it seems that there is yet another box set coming out:

HENRY COW SUBSCRIPTION EDITION

HENRY COW BOX REDUX: THE COMPLETE HENRY COW

17 CDs, 1 DVD and 180 pages of histories, chronology, testimony and commentaries by the band, sundry contemporary documents, and rare photographs – in a sturdy box.

This collection brings together the full contents of the three former boxes, with the addition of a further 60pp booklet of newly unearthed, or commissioned, band commentaries, pictures and other documents prepared specifically for this release - as well as re-mastered versions of all the studio CDs and the rare bonus CD (Cabinet of Curiosities), which came with the subscription edition of the original boxed set. Subscribers only will also receive an extra numbered edition subscription CD of more newly recovered, discovered and previously unreleased recordings.

Content summary:

Newly designed and packaged set of 18 CDs and one DVD covering the entire career of the band - re-mastered by Bob Drake. Plus extra subscription-only CD of further rarities.

Dang

Yeah, just reading the book and it said that the 40th anniversary set had long since sold out but Cutler was working on a new version. Hope i can pick up the extra bits somehow since I have the Road box at least.
Need to listen to the Beginnings disc .

Got as far as the era that covers so far. hadn't known how many drummers they had before CC or how the band formed.

Looks like few places have the book. I missed getting the thing through Book Depository which is probably the cheapest if you're outside the UK, had to get it through The Wire's shop.

Think it got back into the Book Depositary while i was waiting for it to arrive. Had been saying No longer available or something to that effect.

French documentary on Virgin Records from 1974, which contains footage of a Henry Cow recording session (at the Manor) followed by an interview. Unfortunately there's a French voiceover. There's also three tracks from a live performance by Kevin Coyne (at some kind of stately home?) and interview - which is more interesting to me personally but I'm guessing there's more Henry Cow fans on ILX than Kevin Coyne fans so I'm putting it here. Contains Branson content.

https://www.ina.fr/video/I12200660

lord coyne from the seat of his fathers

I've just realized it's Branson's old school, Stowe.

early hotbed of public school pop (george melly fucking peregrine worsthorne)

Indeed, checking their old alumni, Roger Hodgson of Supertramp was in the same year as Branson.

Apparently, the Nazi rally in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade was filmed at Stowe

Also, Crispian Mills from Kula Shaker went there

I'm sure the two aren't linked though

That's a session from November 1973. They're doing an early version of "Half Asleep Half Awake" (which they would re-record on Unrest) and "Keeping Warm in Winter / Sweet Heart of Mine", for a compilation. Both the Cow and Coyne had just released their first Virgin albums a couple of months before this was filmed.

Had somehow missed or forgotten teh existence of a band called Artaud Beats so when I saw it mentioned above I thought it was an auto correct slip for Art Bears. I see the band started as Not Henry Cow and has a different lineup to Art bears anyway outside of Chris Cutler.
I've been neglecting my Henry Cow so need to put some on.

I was put in mind of them this morning by having Spotify have The Momes lp pop up as a recommendation. Interesting stuff with some crossover in sound with This Heat whose cold Storage facility they recorded in and Tim Hodgkinson went on to manage.

Apparently, the Nazi rally in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade was filmed at Stowe

Also, Crispian Mills from Kula Shaker went there

I'm sure the two aren't linked though

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early hotbed of public school pop (george melly fucking peregrine worsthorne)

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i'd say slept on (on a chaise longue in the art department) but