no boys allowed in the room!!!!

wow, poor woman. I know we are probably thinking overall it's for the best but who'd want to be in that situation. Sounds like she really wanted to be a mum, too. GL ENBB

Got a call from the gyn today, three weeks after pap. Test results came in and it was all weird and somewhat bad news. I wish I could go into more detail and get input, advise and opinions but unfortunately, too private to discuss on here. I wish there was a real room with you all in it right now.

*advice

I hear that. You would all know a lot more about old lechera if we were in a room irl. Sorry you got shitty test results Tera!!

aw shit, so sorry! I'm having weird emotional turbulence with my period this week, which is something that rarely happens to me.

Would you a trust a doctor who had this sort of thing behind him? I guess all doctors do or might? Anyway, getting a second opinion, just a lot of waiting from now until this is sorted and I get re-diagnosed.
http://www.leagle.com/decision/20001031201F3d830_1937
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/tx-court-of-appeals/1506749.html

I would get a second opinion, yes. Docs get sued all the time but losing a med mal case (as opposed to settling, which I wouldn't hold against someone necessarily) is another matter. Also from the first case:

Based on this report, we believe that any damage that may be done to plaintiff's professional reputation is substantially outweighed by the harm that defendants and the public would suffer if plaintiff continues to practice medicine without additional training.

He's probably had additional training by now but no need for you to be the test case.

The doctor was odd when I walked in there today with husband and baby. He gave me papers to sign that I didn't understand then proceeded to NOT tell me what they were for so I asked and he told me due to a test result I had to sign those papers and then gave me the test results and it was all jibberjabberblahblah while my head was spinning and i finally said none of this is making much sense right now, told me husband I had to get out of here, had to leave and told the doctor, sorry, waste of time, too much to process.

As soon as I got home I looked him up. I had a weird first visit and thought about it for days later. He refers to sex as "relations" and "relationships" and used those words the entire first visit. Then He told me my cervix was low and it could get injured during 'relations". Then he positioned two fingers in such a way to show me the ideal entry for "relationships". It was at that point that I was WTF?! Is this okay? I mean it's been awhile since I've had a male gyn and I started to think if a female had done that would I feel the same. Yes. I would think it was odd just maybe not as violated? But I walked out thinking, hmmm maybe it's just me. What was that? Was that necessary? I didn't say I had pain during intercourse just that I was there for irregular periods and at the moment thought maybe I was getting a uti because my abdomen felt tender. The nurse/receptionist/19-21 year old just stood at the far end of the room and was not looking and just standing there.

Today I realized that I didn't pay much attention to the instruments used and usually I hear paper ripping and it's a kit and how I never heard that and wonder how sterile everything was. It was an older office, lots of them in this area are though.

Maybe discrediting the doctor is my way of getting through the next few weeks.

Thanks, ca, definitely!

My mom was just involved in a med malpractice suit and I've got v negative feelings abt it. Justice was not served.

Tera if I'm reading your account if that first visit correctly, it is time for you to find a new doctor ASAP.

That first visit sounds odd, but I'm not sure what exactly was happening. I definitely wouldn't go back.

Not planning on it. Wish I had never gone there to begin with and driven the extra miles to the bigger town with more choices. Now stuck with this mess until I can get it sorted and it's not likely to happen within 48 hours so ugh.....

roxymuzak: It was during a pap test that he pointed out the cervix being low and the alternative point of entry. Puzzled me since that was never a concern of mine and I said nothing about pain during intercourse nor concerned about my cervix etc... So angry right now, nerves fried. Looking up a good place to call on Monday and starting over.

I've been able to never have go to a male GYN, I know some people like their man doctors just fine but for me it would be a last resort just this side of a social disease.

^^^ this. tbh i can't even deal with male GPs/PCPs

*tera, just chiming in to say I'm so sorry you have a stressful situation to deal with, and NO ONE need ever settle for a doctor they don't like, especially a GYN! We've been socialized to think doctors are these special unicorns, when in fact they are a commodity that can be treated just like other commodities purchased by consumers! Don't buy a product you don't like!

Oh, ENBB, I'm sorry to hear about the extra crap you're friend is dealing with, and am sure she's sad about how things turned out. Tough situation. I hope she has some relief that it's resolved.

I lucked into a male GP that I love dearly and look forward to seeing until one of us dies but i am more comfortable with women for ob/gyn.

I've seen male providers for my paps. they always offer to refer me to a female provider, but I figure the dudes need the practice. in multi-provider practices, the female providers always get the paps punted to them.

quincie: love how you put it and viewing it that way from now on

I had one awesome male gyn. He was super intelligent and a real problem solver. I had him for two years then he retired. Saw the male obgyn he referred me too and that guy was a quack. Went to him once for a pap then a year later he phoned me at 11 or 12am from a hotel room to tell me where I could pick up my records, something about my records. It was creepy. He sounded drunk. That ended male obgyns until recently..ending it again.

CA - aw, thank you. She's doing surprisingly well considering. She even said yesterday (the day after the termination) was the first day she woke up and didn't feel horrible - that she felt likee a weight had been lifted somehow so I think that, even though in some ways this whole thing might not even have hit her yet, she's gonna be OK. I'm hoping hanging out and doing stuff next weekend will be helpful - we're already making plans.

o_O *tera

I'm glad she's OK ENBB. Fingers crossed she gets over it quickly, and I know it's a lot to ask of the universe, but I hope she finds someone who's good for her and has a baby when the time's right.

On another subject, anybody here ever had mad random boob pain? I've got this sharp, sickening pain in my left tit, doesn't seem to be connected to the surrounding muscles or anything, and it's not sore-boob time of the month. Idk if I should be worrying about it. I mean, there's no lump or anything, no redness or swelling, it just hurts like hell.

yes!!! and i was thinking about posting it in this thread a couple weeks ago!!

for me it's a burning/pinching/itching pain, right inside the boob tissue. usually only in one or the other, never at the same time. it's v uncomfortable, bc i want to scratch it, but it's too deep to get to, so i end up sort of squeezing/rubbing my boobs a lot.

sorry about your friend ENBB - it sucks that she felt like bc of her age she had to take this chance of having a baby. i have v strong feelings about this subject. i hope the decision is one she can be content with and move forward and find a better life for herself.

There was a crazy debate on my Facebook wall about street harassment between bcoers and my goth friends while I was sleeping last night. 92 comments.

what's a bcoer?

People who post on bco (boardcrewcial.org)

oh! i really did not know that or what it was. thx. i was wondering what was up with the massive fb comment thread. weird!

Which side was taking the pro harassment stance?

ENBB: Feel so bad for your friend, that was an unbelievably tough situation to be in. I do hope good things come her way.

Zora: Yes, had that before, just on one side. Drove me insane! It must be hormonal, had it happen a few times when I was pregnant.

afaict neither side was "pro" but there was the group saying "i'd beat that guy up" and the other group saying "that's not productive and you're perpetuating macho bs"
what i don't know is which side was which, but i didn't know what a bcoer was until a few min ago.

Ah, okay. That's good nobody was pulling the "How will I ever meet women if I can't compliment strangers" crap. I don't know who any of these people are but I feel better knowing nobody took that stance.

The goths were macho pro gun, bco was the logical realistic voice

basically my goth DJ friend was saying if he'd only been there, he would have protected me. Or something. Then the BCO contingent chimed in with "that kind of masculine aggressive behavior just continues the problem, it doesn't solve anything" only to have another goth friend chime in with "LOL you obviously don't know him he's SERIOUS" and then.. it just got ridic. And then his wife chimed in with "Let me know if you need me to tell you how to get a concealed weapon permit!"

so I guess in some people's minds I'd be safer carrying around a gun. Which seems absurd to me.

And then his wife chimed in with "Let me know if you need me to tell you how to get a concealed weapon permit!"

TBH that was the most absurd part of the whole thing to me.

my favorite part was "you dont know her irl, and we do!!"

also "man hating lesbians"

Thx Just1n3 and *tera, I'll hang on a bit longer and hope it goes away. No reason for my hormones to be wobbling, unless it's super early menopause, but we shall see. Maybe some starflower oil or sth would be worth a shot.

oh yeah man hating lesbians was classic too

I too have had random boob pain a few times and it went away again. Some of it was most likely from ill-fitting bras, as they also left marks on the outside, but at least once it seemed to be completely unexplained. I never know whether to take things like that to the GP.

Though I've just reread your post and I don't think any of mine would count as "sharp, sickening" (I think I know the sensation just1n3 describes though) - I hope all is well.

tbh I find the whole concept of Breast Health totally hypochondria-inducing and I've nearly stopped checking mine because that way I get to worry less but I am aware this may not be the cleverest approach

it is normal for one to be larger than the other, right?

Totally normal.

Fun fact! My left boob and foot are bigger than my right, and my left eyebrow is bushier and my hair is thicker on the left side of my head (which is why I part my hair on the left). None of this is noticeable to third parties but it's totes true.

it is weird because i have no anxiety whatsoever about the fact that one of my feet is wider and shorter than the other, but when it comes to boobs, different story

i have had 3rd parties point out the boob size discrepancy

I've even seen bras for sale with two different cup sizes. Totally normal.

Random boob pain: My friend had this last year and the doc told her tumors usually aren't painful, pain usually means a benign cyst or something. They then proceeded to diagnose her with stage IV. May I suggest getting boob pain checked out?

Mandeee that thread was the greatest thing in the world to wake up to this morning. I wish I could like the bco ppl's posts more times.