Descendents: I Don't Want to Grow Up C/D?

It doesn't matter - you all suck.
Don't give a shit about punk rock!

the rerun of the London show noted above (that happened cos Milo blew out his voice during the first one) was the funnest of times

Used to fuck with this song so hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYAM17lLtKk

new album is pretty good! very milo to right a 1 minute hardcore rant about how he has to watch his cholesterol now and can't eat fast food burgers

Ha, that sounds great

lol the song "No Fat Burger" basically describes where my life is headed (except fortunately nobody in my fam has heart issues)

this is a good album but it sounds like someone on the label sent the Saint Vitus producer to the Descendents booth by mistake

Seein em right now for first time

Hahah whoops

1981 or so: "Hey do you ever think a T-shirt with our logo and main visual image will appear worldwide on a US government hearing about trying to overturn an election and have a lot of people wondering what the hell." "Hmm, nah."

Hahaha for those who can’t parse that the proud boy face tattoo guy about to testify before the 1/6 committee is wearing a Descendants T-shirt

Another vote in favor of me never liking this band 🙃

Oath Keeper rather than Proud Boy but it is just a distinction of which stupid asshole you follow.

Friend on FB: "He wants to be stereotyped. He wants to be classified."

An unsurprising update.

We completely disavow groups like the Oath Keepers and in no way condone their hateful ideology.

— DESCENDENTS (@descendents) July 12, 2022

Descendents definitely had some problematic elements in their lyrics on Milo goes to college, though more of the typical "high school kid misogyny" type. nothing like THIS.

ultimately though, they weren't political, they sang about girls and poop and Oath Keepers like girls and poop

It always starts with misogyny and juvenile humor

All I know is the drive-thru song from "Pump Up the Volume," which is like the punk version of, I dunno, Napalm Death's "You Suffer."

xpost Yeah, like the "OK" sign or all the alt-right memes. "We're just joking!"

I never really gave a shit about the Descendents one way or the other, but I'm familiar enough with their discography to believe that it's a miiiiiiiighty big stretch to draw a straight line from them to the Oath Keepers.

"relax it's just a joke"

"get a sense of humor, it's a joke"

"you're misinterpreting me"

"i was exaggerating for effect"

"hang mike pence"

of course it's a big stretch -- how it starts isn't how it always inevitably ends

"hang mike pence"

no, no, you have to understand, it's ironic hyperbole, like when morrissey sings "hang the DJ," nobody says *he's* racist

SST had better strike while the iron is hot and whip up some more MILO vinyls

"Hope" is like a proto-incel anthem for better or worse

Someone who wants to destroy the capitol being into a loud punk band with many irony-drenched songs about not fitting is not the craziest thing I’ve ever heard

*not fitting in, that is

Otm about Hope.

Jamie Raskin promoted a Mission of Burma show on Harvard campus my freshman year, 1981. It’s possible these are the only two in the room who know the Descendants pic.twitter.com/1ER33ZUz12

— Damon K (@dada_drummer) July 12, 2022

Maybe not a straight line but the Descendants/ALL have always reflected a "both sides are equally bad!" plus "we aren't really homophobes it is just a joke!" plus Milo's aggrieved nice guy who can't get laid schtick plus being firmly in the SST libertarian wing that I can't really say I am surprised, they are touchstones of male suburban nerd ennui for a reason

that describes their 80s output, but nothing since

they removed several songs from their setlists nowadays due to some of the problematic stuff, namely "I'm not a Loser" and "Pervert".

when I was Milo's age on Milo Goes to College, I was still a Fundamentalist, pro-life, anti-Affirmative Action incel.

I would say it describes "Everything Sux" which is the last time I really engaged with them and the newer stuff might be different but I can see how people who grew up on the "classics" could also be down with the Oathkeepers or Proud Boys or whatevs. Punk bands having problematic audiences aren't really a new thing.

Oh, I absolutely get why someone like that might have been big into the Descendents, I just get a little weird about drawing a straight line and blaming the music directly for who these doofuses became or the choices the made. It's ugly when the right uses it to excuse school shootings and I try not to fall into that trap elsewhere.

I just get a little weird about drawing a straight line and blaming the music directly for who these doofuses became or the choices the made
To be clear, no one did that!

There were a few posts nodding in that direction though.

Milo had a heart attack last night followed by bypass surgery and is in recovery. All Descendents shows are canceled until further notice.